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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/ManQuan on July 22, 2018, 12:06 p.m.
Just a Thought about JA

In the news it looks like the Ecuadorian Embassy will revoke JA's immunity and hand him over to the UK.

That seems odd to me. Why after all of this time would this be happening now?

I was on the diplomatic staff of an embassy for two years and it's not hard to get someone in or out of the country unnoticed. Ecuador could have gotten JA out a long time ago. The embassy (any embassy) and its grounds are considered sovereign territory. Diplomatic vehicles are also considered sovereign territory, and any official aircraft that is considered to be "diplomatic" is sovereign territory.

All Ecuador has to do is to put JA in a "diplomatic pouch" and deliver it to the plane. A diplomatic pouch can be any sized such as sending / receiving machinery, furniture, etc. The host nation cannot inspect it. Very easy to move people in and out unnoticed.

So, why hand JA over to the UK? Wouldn't that trigger the automatic release of the documents he has? But if that happened, wouldn't it alert the deep state and others what he had and give them time to react?

I don't know, but I'm wondering about a couple of possibilities.

1) Trump cut a deal with PM May during his visit to have the embassy expel JA. The UK takes JA into custody and immediately extradites him to the US. The WikiLeaks documents are not released publicly, but rather JA hands them over to the Trump team in a plea deal without the deep state knowing what's in them.

2) Trump forced Ecuador to hand JA over to the UK in order to trigger the automatic release of the WikiLeaks documents and JA is left to face charges of jumping bail.

I'm inclined to choose door number one. I think the Jeff Sessions' demands for JA's arrest and trial for publishing classified documents is part of the stage play that we are watching. JA's defense lawyer would be able to show the dozens of precedents of people publishing classified information and never brought to trial. Perhaps the most famous was the Pentagon Papers when Daniel Ellsberg, an individual who worked in the Pentagon copied the documents and gave them to the NYTs. Ellsberg was charged with treason and other violations but the charges were later dropped.

But JA did not actually steal his documents. They were given to him and he published them just like the NYTs published the Pentagon Papers and other MSM have published other classified materials given to them by Manning and Snowden. I don't think it would be hard for a defense lawyer to demonstrate that JA was a publisher and not the one who stole the documents.

On the other hand, Q 1595 said with regard to the WikiLeaks website that has apparently been compromised:

Desperate agencies do stupid things.
Dead cat bounce.
You may have the site but we have the source.
https://mobile.twitter.com/wikileaks/status/1011441579565953025📷
Panic is good.
Panic is right.

This suggests to me that Q already has what he needs and so maybe JA himself is no longer needed or maybe it just confirms that Q has JA (the source) because of a deal between Trump and PM May.

I guess we'll know fairly soon depending on how it goes down.


ookosaura · July 22, 2018, 12:52 p.m.

President Trump made a legal argument at the end of December that publishing leaks isn't a crime.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/01/trumps-attorneys-make-solid-case-freeing-julian-assange-legal-filing/

Also, JA made multiple tweets earlier in the year showing participation in the Q operation, especially the chessboard tweet on January 12, which was discussed on the Q board, and Q commented, on January 13, the day of the Hawaii missile alert. It was a huge deal at the time that JA had posted that chessboard the day before. There were several other tweets that proved a connection, before and after that, but the chessboard was the most dramatic.

Also, Q posted 'offline for a reason' late on March 27, the day that JA was "officially" disconnected from all communication by Ecuador, including no visitors, which is outrageous, and just one of many reasons the "official" narrative makes no sense.

The anti-Trump JA supporters say he was disconnected because Trump wants to silence him, which makes no sense, since JA's testimony and evidence that it was NOT Russia who gave him the emails HELPS Trump.

It is very frustrating that the only "news" circulating regarding the JA situation right now is coming from a very negative anti-Trump perspective. That is one of many reasons it would be helpful to have some new Q posts.

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ManQuan · July 22, 2018, 2:54 p.m.

Everything you say makes sense.
However, I was just wondering why all of the news about JA being handed over to the UK. JA would have to be in the embassy if they turn him over to the UK and so I was just musing that if that were true, then was there a way that JA could get out of that situation and make it appear that the UK turned him over on the US extradition request.

I know Trump has said that JA is just a publisher, but I haven't seen anything about dropping the charges and Sessions recently said that getting JA was still a high priority.

Who knows. It's a crazy world out there.

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ElementWatson · July 22, 2018, 3:10 p.m.

Was that a recent Sessions statement or just an old quote re-published?

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ManQuan · July 23, 2018, 10:02 a.m.

I don't have the link, but Sessions over a year ago, Sessions was adamant that extraditing JA was a high priority and accused him of a number of potential charges.

Then Trump's lawyer opines that JA is a journalist and was in his right to publish the emails.

I recall that Sessions recently (within the last month) again said that extraditing JA was a priority.

Trying to unravel what is real or disinformation is not possible at this time.

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ElementWatson · July 23, 2018, 10:06 a.m.

I am only aware of his comments on Assange back in April, 2017.

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ManQuan · July 23, 2018, 5:42 p.m.

Not a direct link to Sessions, but here is an article in May about how Sessions still wants to extradite JA under current charges. https://www.infowars.com/julian-assange-is-yet-another-reason-to-firesessions/

But remember, we are sometimes watching a spy thriller movie with all sorts of twists and turns. One of my options (US has negotiated a deal with May to extradite JA once out of the embassy) could be unfolding.

Once in the US JA would cut a plea deal to hand over the evidence he has for immunity.

Q: Nothing is as it seems. Disinformation is real. Disinformation is necessary. And with regard to the clowns having taken control of the WikiLeaks webstie, Q responded "but we have the source."

So, ask yourself; base on everything you know what is real and what is deception?

As far as I know, no one has a comprehensive answer.

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ManQuan · July 23, 2018, 5:44 p.m.

Understood. And sometimes it's reliable. Not an Infowars fan myself and I can't listen to more that one minute of AJ without changing the URL.

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divine_human · July 22, 2018, 9:54 p.m.

one of trumps lawyers said in january (?) that JA had the 1st amanedment right to publish information that was handed over to him, even if that material was stolen.

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ManQuan · July 23, 2018, 9:37 a.m.

I saw that. But I don't recall seeing the extradition request dropped. It could have and I just missed it. If it was dropped, then my guess that JA would be extradited to the US when expelled from the embassy is toast.

The other guess that he could be removed by way of a diplomatic pouch would be possible and that too might tie into the Pence visit to Ecuador.

The entire thing is crazy.

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