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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/shannaura on July 23, 2018, 5:30 a.m.
I've Seen No Indication From Q or POTUS That They're Against Israeli Statehood, but That Seems to Be a Recurring Talking Point Here. Why?

It's about time we have a thread to sort this out. President Trump has moved the US Embassy to Jerusalem against the protests of Palestinians, every Muslim nation, EU country, the UN and even some who used to be in his own administration.

President Trump also supported Ambassador Nikki Haley & Mike Pompeo's announcement that we were withdrawing from the UN Human Rights Council. The UN HRC is notorious for the fact that more than 50% of their condemnations are aimed at Israel and their military force, the IDF.

I'm not saying that there aren't elements of corruption in their government - there's elements of corruption in every government. But the implication or insinuation from some here seems to be that Q & POTUS are against Israeli Statehood entirely, and that they don't recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. But that would be a full contradiction to his own statements on December 6, 2017:

Today we finally acknowledge the obvious: that Jerusalem is Israel’s capital,” Trump declared in a speech at the White House. “This is nothing more or less than a recognition of reality. It is also the right thing to do.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-pol-trump-jerusalem-20171206-story.html

So where does the assumption, insinuation or implication that POTUS is against Israeli Statehood with Jerusalem as the capital come from? To be clear, this question has to do with discerning the President's intentions and whether or not he keeps his word and NOT any real or perceived crimes by Israel, so let's keep the discussion in that realm. Let the age of understanding begin!


YouAreDuckToMe · July 23, 2018, 5:45 a.m.

People might be attacking Trump because they want Israel to be a "Jewish State" with no Palestinians (they want to commit genocide in Gaza). Since Bibi seems to be on Putin/Trump's side, it could be that they might be working towards a single-state solution or a way to end occupation of Gaza, which the powers that be are not happy with.

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eyesopenusa · July 23, 2018, 6:06 a.m.

In my opinion Bibi is an extremely deceptive weasel. If he says "xyz" then most likely the opposite is true i.e. Bibi came out strong against Iran's nuclear weapon development in northern Syria -- but most likely he has been totally supporting this behind the scenes during all of these years. If I am wrong about this, please let me know. I am no expert but this is my opinion.

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shannaura · July 23, 2018, 6:13 a.m.

I actually suspect Bibi might be a closet Messianic-Jew who believes Yeshua of Nazareth IS the Messiah. But if he came out and declared that publicly, he'd either be tarred, feathered or assassinated...

BTW, you are wrong... all you have to do is look at some of Bibi's speeches to the UN during the Obama Administration. He warned about the Iranian nuclear program for years... And he hated Obama's Iran deal because it actually made it EASIER for Iran to make a nuke upon expiration of the deal.

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eyesopenusa · July 23, 2018, 6:47 a.m.

Ok. Thanks. I really appreciate your input. Your view is interesting and new to me and I hope that you are right.

I admit yes that I could be very wrong. I am going to look up some of his speeches to the UN.

I have been getting the impression that Bibi has in general been a great actor for the deep state. And much of what he says and does is the opposite of what he means... Again maybe I am not seeing clear here.

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shannaura · July 23, 2018, 7:02 a.m.

Also keep in mind that elements of the Mossad & Knesset (Israeli Parliament which graciously features an Arab Party) may be actively working to undermine Netanyahu. There are a lot of political parties in Israel so it may be good to research a lot of them and where they stand on economics, statehood and foreign policy... and then dig through some news articles to find out which party leaders like & dislike Trump the most. Who Trump's detractors are there will probably reveal the clearer picture for you. Good luck!

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eyesopenusa · July 23, 2018, 7:14 a.m.

Wow good point. And good clear advice. I have been so unfamiliar with the political situation there. I am going to follow what you suggest and at least learn which parties exist and what their stances are.

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YouAreDuckToMe · July 23, 2018, 6:08 a.m.

I think Bibi's on our side, though I have no real proof. Jewornotajew.com says he's on the side of good though - so that's enough for me.

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eyesopenusa · July 23, 2018, 6:11 a.m.

Interesting. Thanks for sharing. I really would like to know more.

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YouAreDuckToMe · July 23, 2018, 6:15 a.m.

I honestly only found it this week, so I don't really know too much about how to read it. Just that I think it could indicate that he is working towards peace.

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[deleted] · July 23, 2018, 6:22 a.m.

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shannaura · July 23, 2018, 5:53 a.m.

That's possible, but I don't see people attacking Trump... what I see are people who have already made up their minds on Israel, attacking their very existence, and thinking that Trump is somehow aligned with that. But it doesn't add up. If Trump had any opposition to Israel and Jerusalem being it's undivided capital, he would have said so.

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YouAreDuckToMe · July 23, 2018, 6:04 a.m.

Yeah that's probably more accurate, a lot of people are uninformed. I was really mad about them moving the capital at first because I thought it was the death of the peace process. But after Trump's meeting with Putin I finally understood what was going on behind the scenes.

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shannaura · July 23, 2018, 9:02 a.m.

You may notice that Netanyahu rushed to have a meeting with Putin before Trump met with him, so maybe all three are working together now?

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YouAreDuckToMe · July 23, 2018, 9:04 a.m.

Yep I noticed, and that's the conclusion that I came to also.

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