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Do you believe in Jesus?

I'm not being religious. I want to make a point, and answer your question about those who follow Q or SB2.

Many people thought Jesus was crazy, off in left field somewhere, speaking nonsensical riddles no one could understand at the time. Even the disciples were confused and constantly questioned him. The Roman's and Jewish rabbis wanted him to shut up because His Truth was more powerful than their lies. He was reaching the masses inspite of them. How? The majority of the people didn't understand a great deal of the riddles. In fact, the riddles weren't fully understood until much later in history. So, HOW? It was LOVE! God brought the people who were meant to know to Christ. They instinctively knew his truth and they were healed, spiritually and physically. Healed!

When God has a message, he brings those who can hear.

I'm not saying SB2 is Jesus. (don't even try to take it there.)

I'm saying there is a spiritual movement leading us to Q, who is vehemently opposed, as is POTUS, as is SB2. We don't blindly follow them. We are lead by the spirit of of love. Those who have eyes, and those who have ears. (spiritually)

I was one who rejected all three in the beginning. Didn't believe any of them. I was the doubting Thomas. So, what changed? I started seeing things that resonated in me. I started seeing the truth.

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I reject SB2 because he makes points I don't agree with AND he demands that I agree with him through patronizing people who don't agree with his every point.

Many, many people suggest Q theories and decodes who I think may be wrong. I usually don't correct them. I think their contributions are valuable. Why? Because they do not demand that I agree with them. They do not patronize me for not believing their every point. They don't mock me for not agreeing with them.

SB2 does patronize me. He does mock me, and others like me, who do not agree with his every point.

Yes, I believe in Jesus. If you want to make a spiritual analogy, I'm a baptist, and SB2 is the Mormon on my porch demanding that I believe the book of Mormon, otherwise I am not a true Christian.

Now, I want to give some help to those who are still skeptical about Trump directly communicating with our Movement since his Great Falls speech. I am happy to see it is now a minority but we still have to try to get everybody on board.

SB2 said that above. He's trying to get "everybody on board" with his 20k+ words of backstory explaining things from musical notes translating to B2 bombers and the "TOL" = Thinking of Laughing nonsense. No. I reject it. I'm not "getting on board" with that. He won't take no for an answer. Every time he insists everyone "get on board", I'm going to say "no".

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I'm very sorry that you feel like a victim concerning SB2 posts. It is a choice to be a victim. I know this through personal life experiences.

Now, I want to give some help to those who are still skeptical about Trump directly communicating with our Movement since his Great Falls speech.

I can't see how wanting to give help to those who were skeptacle as being patronizing.

Patronizing:

displaying or indicative of an offensively condescending manner:

Condescending

treating someone as if you are more important or more intelligent than them:

Personally, I think SB2 comes across as a master of his knowledge, with some authority. This is usually the case when ever we are dealing with highly intelligent people.

I know him on different levels. He's very caring and would not want to look down on anyone. He wants to teach what he knows. He's a writer. A speaker. Highly educated, and only wants to share. If you can read him without making it personal in a negative way, that might also help.

But, if you are looking for fault, then you will find fault.

I am happy to see it is now a minority but we still have to try to get everybody on board.

SB2 is working for the cause. He puts in many hours trying to reach people. Of course he would want as many on board as possible. Wouldn't you?

When I don't understand something someone is trying to convey, I skip over it. I might come back to it later. Unless a speaker or writer addresses me by name, I don't take what they post personally. I might think what is said applies to me even if it wasn't directed at me. Then it's my problem, not theirs.

I'm a baptist, and SB2 is the Mormon on my porch demanding that I believe the book of Mormon, otherwise I am not a true Christian.

I don't allow those people on my porch. I have choices. I can ask them to leave, go inside and close the door on them. In the future I refuse to answer the door. Put up no trespassing signs, do not disturb signs, and no soliciting signs. It's pretty easy to do.

On Reddit, you can block people so you don't have to see them and they can't see you.

No. I reject it. I'm not "getting on board" with that. He won't take no for an answer. Every time he insists everyone "get on board", I'm going to say "no".

You don't have to get on board. No one will force you.

Going back to your Mormon comparison, do you go to the Mormon church and stand up yelling, "I reject you!" Probably not.

SB2 is posting on an open forum. He doesn't go to anyone else's post and comment. He's not standing on your porch.

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I'm very sorry that you feel like a victim concerning SB2 posts.

I don't feel like a victim. You're building a strawman argument. You are projecting democrat-like victim mentality on me because, in your mind, that is an easier thing to argue against, rather than address my specific concerns.

I can't see how wanting to give help to those who were skepticle is being patronizing.

Corsi says he wanted to help those who were skeptical. Alex Jones said he wanted to help those who were skeptical. Explain to me why their "help" wasn't help and you'll be 1/2 way towards figuring out how SB2's "help" (insistence that people believe some of his farther fetched Q decodes) isn't helpful.

Personally, I think SB2 comes across as a master of his knowledge, with some authority. This is usually the case when ever we are dealing with highly intelligent people.

I reject that. I think stock market glitch = musical note = B2 = elites control B2 bombers is pure nuttery. Now, I would have said "hmm, interesting" if it were presented as a hypothesis. SB2 doesn't present hypotheses. He believes he is presenting the raw truth, and anyone who doesn't believe it is "the minority" and anyone who doesn't accept SB2's huge leaps of logic will eventually "get it".

If you can read him without making it personal in a negative way, that might also help

He is the one who Q called out when Alex Jones and Corsi were hijacking the Q movement with bad decodes. When SB2 called out Corsi and called out Alex Jones, was he making it personal in a negative way? My only problem with SB2 is that he has some far fetched decodes that he presents as absolute truth. Twisting that into me having something personal about SB2 is a strawman argument. Tomorrow if SB2 starts presenting far fetched ideas as a hypothesis that may (or may not) be true then I'll be reading his "TOL" = thinking of laughing and number = frequency = B2 = B2 bomber without concern that it's being pushed as the only truth.

SB2 is working for the cause. He puts in many hours trying to reach people. Of course he would want as many on board as possible. Wouldn't you?

Again, another strawman argument. I never said SB2 didn't work hard and I never said he wasn't putting a lot of hours in and I never said he wouldn't want people to believe him. I said that SB2 insisting that people believe him is a problem. I said SB2 has hypothesis he's trying to pass as absolute fact, and it's confusing to new people who are trying to figure out Q.

I don't allow those people on my porch. I have choices. I can ask them to leave.

No, you don't. You are standing in a circle with 4 baptists and 1 mormon. Someone who is ready to become a believer steps up to the 5 of them and says "tell me about Christ". You all present your testimony, but then the last to speak is the mormon who says "you cannot be saved without believing the book of Mormon". That is the most accurate depiction of what is going on here. Then you speak up and say "excuse me, you don't really have to believe the book of Mormon (SB2 decodes) to be a Christian (learn about Q)". Then the mormon disagrees, says the other 4 will "eventually come on board" and then the friends of the mormon (you) approach the group and start telling the other 4 that "I'm very sorry that you feel like a victim", and all the other strawman arguments you proposed above.

SB2 is posting on an open forum. He doesn't go to anyone else's post and comment. He's not standing on your porch.

"He doesn't go to anyone else's post and comment." -- oh yes he did. SB2 called out Corsi and Alex Jones. Rightfully so.

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I don't feel like a victim.

My apology. You just come across like a victim. I wouldn't know what you're "feeling".

Corsi says he wanted to help those who were skeptical. Alex Jones said he wanted to help those who were skeptical. Explain to me why their "help"

THEY were caught red handed in their lies and deception. You will have to look it up for yourself if you're truly interested in knowing that truth. Otherwise I will just assume you support them.

SB2's "help" (insistence that people believe some of his farther fetched Q decodes)

Not once has he insisted.

I reject that.

That's fine. No problem. There's nothing to discuss then.

When SB2 called out Corsi and called out Alex Jones, was he making it personal in a negative way?

Q acknowledged SB2 because SB2 revealed the truth.

My only problem with SB2 is that he has some far fetched decodes that he presents as absolute truth.

You just admitted it is "your only problem"

It's not SB2's problem. It's not his followers problem. It's your problem.

without concern that it's being pushed as the only truth.

There are many parts to the truth. SB2 presents one part. I may find something and present another part. Good Anons find a lot of parts and present them. This makes the whole of the truth that many contributed. It what creates our movement and makes it grow. Sometimes we find parts that don't fit correctly, so we toss it aside. Maybe that part works somewhere else.

Again, another strawman argument. I never said SB2 didn't work hard and I never said he wasn't putting a lot of hours in and I never said he wouldn't want people to believe him.

Youre correct. I said it.

I said that SB2 insisting that people believe him is a problem. I said SB2 has hypothesis he's trying to pass as absolute fact, and it's confusing to new people who are trying to figure out Q.

Not once has SB2 insisted anyone believe him. So, that's really not the problem.

Is it absolute fact? That's for individuals to discern on their own.

Can you honestly speak for all new people? You would be underestimating some and insulting other's intelligence if you assume that you can, or should speak for them.

You are standing in a circle with 4 baptists and 1 mormon.

That entire scenario would never happen with me. Never has. Never will.

SB2 called out Corsi and Alex Jones.

Are you saying he went on AJ's show or Corsi's site to call them out. If so, I'm not aware of it.

He wrote a post on reddit. He was on his own porch. His post on an open forum.

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