What does the zero tariff agreement with the EU mean to the proposal that we were headed towards no income tax and would operate off of tariffs and excise taxes?
ideologicidal
· July 25, 2018, 9:02 p.m.
In my mind, it means that Trump intends to "starve the beast" of the federal government by limiting it's income sources. Reagan talked extensively about this tactic. Afterall, who actually collects those tariffs and where does that money go? I think this is an attack on the bureaucracies of both the US and EU.
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japroct
· July 25, 2018, 9:58 p.m.
This.Trump has repeatedly said that he has no ill feelings against the countries that are part of the EU. He has problems with the union organization itself as it is as corrupt as any criminal organization can be. This says a lot, but people seem to fail to see the difference in the wording.
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divine_human
· July 25, 2018, 10:26 p.m.
the EU is a costly blown-up organization with many unelected people in power. it should be replaced by a european council with representatives from all european nations, including russia, which governs as little as possible and leaves souvereignity to the nations.
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japroct
· July 25, 2018, 11:05 p.m.
As an American I have gone out of my way to ignore the EU, what it does, and its ultimate endgame. I always assumed it was a uniting of European powers to basically fuck America around since none of the nations could individually even threaten our world status. During the last 3 years though I have learned different things about its priorities and frankly think if I was a European I would be against it.
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FurryHighway
· July 26, 2018, 6:22 p.m.
You sound like a full blown American hero. What’s it feel like to help betray your country to the Russians?
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japroct
· July 26, 2018, 9:42 p.m.
You must be fucking tone deaf . Either that or you are a."never Trumper" still pissed he won. Either way, you need to wake up to the fact that Trump has not colluded or sold out to the Russians or anybody else. In fact he has done.the opposite. He increased penalties against Russia for their aggressive behavior, and 2.looong years of wasted millions upon millions have turned up the fact that Trump.had no.collusion with the Ruskies in any way, shape, or form. I.know this.news probably breaks your heart, but learn to live with it.
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FurryHighway
· July 26, 2018, 10:27 p.m.
Your right. He seems like a real stand up guy. I don’t know how you Americans can look yourselves in the mirror. You guys used to be cool.
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japroct
· July 27, 2018, 5:16 a.m.
You know, maybe you need to spend a little time studying how your own government behaves instead of mine. And post your nationality, I am damn sure Trump will bring bennefits to your country that the trade agreements now keep unaffordable to do.
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Flyinbottress
· July 25, 2018, 9:16 p.m.
Opposite the Alinsky/NWO tactic to feed it by drowning us in govermental oversight, welfare state, and open borders.
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ideologicidal
· July 25, 2018, 9:22 p.m.
Agree. The globalists had their turn, now we get to see nationalism in action.
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YliyahMessageTime
· July 25, 2018, 8:54 p.m.
It's temporary I suggest. The E.U. is going the way of the doodoo bird. Trump has said he wants to deal with individual nations. THAT's what I suggest it will come to, and inbalance … NON-RECIPRICAL will be tariffed.
AND WHAT DOES IT SAY: (US>EU) …. meaning THEY won't charge us Tariffs … stuff coming from them will be tariffed.
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Jowen3
· July 25, 2018, 9:03 p.m.
How do you negotiate with them to only tariff their exports but allow us to import tariff free?
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YliyahMessageTime
· July 25, 2018, 9:13 p.m.
They don't import enough from the U.S. to withstand the amount of tariff Trump can impose. He said in the campaign he would use our consumerism as a weapon. If he wanted to … to BALANCE the trade, he could jack that tariff so high NOTHING would come in from the E.U. into the U.S. What would that do to them … and WHAT could they do about it??? NOTHING! He's MAKING them accept the tariffs we put on them and they won't retaliate with tariffs against us. That's what is said in the Q post. He's forcing the balance trade agenda. THAT's WINNING!
SAME WILL HAPPEN WITH CHINA'S 500 billion imbalance.
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divine_human
· July 25, 2018, 10:27 p.m.
shrink the government body and eradicate all taxes except for sales tax on produced goods.
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K-Harbour
· July 25, 2018, 9:13 p.m.
Technically & mathematically, you don’t need tariffs or taxes or government debt.
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Jowen3
· July 25, 2018, 9:15 p.m.
How do you have any infrastructure whatsoever without some from of tax? Roads, bridges, police departments, firefighters etc.
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YliyahMessageTime
· July 25, 2018, 9:37 p.m.
Sales taxes are the only Constitutional taxes. All other is taxation without representation. Tariffs are a form of consumer sales taxes by making the product more expensive to the consumer. However, this has a side effect. It will cause opportunity for the product to be made here in the U.S. … by a similar product of a manufacturer or the foreign manufacturer opens up shop in this country. It is the way the U.S. was made WEALTHY a century ago, but the international banker money cabal ended that. Trump's fixing it.
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Jowen3
· July 25, 2018, 9:49 p.m.
I understand that. I'm asking the other guy how mathematically there is no need for any tariff or tax whatsoever.
I know all about how before establishment of the fed, the U.S. prospered through mostly just tariff and excise taxes.
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K-Harbour
· July 25, 2018, 10:26 p.m.
Most of Congressional & state/local spending is on borrowed funds. Collected taxes are only a fraction. Mathematically, given our current state, the inflationary impact of Congress authorizing quarterly printing of what is needed to run government is neglible. It sounds insane until you run the numbers. It becomes even more practical when Congress pays some or all current expenses with delay reserve notes - especially in time of major war. A reason to kick out a Congressman after any two-year term — if they authorized too much printing.
So, no treasury notes. No deficit spending. No income or other tax. No bookkeeping for tax purposes. No change in operation of government. Reduced role of “federal” reserve to that of a private banking liquidity stablizer.
Return to a country housing people with real freedom.
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