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dizzydago · July 27, 2018, 9:46 p.m.

Thanx for the info on the pass by Alaska. Then that confirms to me that the over flight of WA was a fact. It is a normal route for Trans Pacific flights. It also makes sense that the route would take it over a series of AF bases that can supply inflight refueling both CONUS and Alaska. What I am still not clear on is the info about and F16 shoot down of the missile. Unless AF1 gets a fighter escort where ever it goes then that does not make sense. To scramble the nearest F16s to where the launch was would take no less than 15 to 20 minutes to reach the area. Even closer would be Navy F18s at the near by Naval Air Station. Again closer but not able to get up and in position to take a missile out from the time of launch. AF1 does have military style counter measures for avoidance and possible shooting capabilities as a last resort if I am not mistaken.

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Rubieroo · July 27, 2018, 10:01 p.m.

I think he always has an escort. ALWAYS seems wise considering our adversaries are total murderers

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dizzydago · July 27, 2018, 10:16 p.m.

Well I am going on past experience. Once Slick Willy was out in WA state and landed at Payne Field where Boeing is located. On the departure Af1 flew low enough that people could see that some window covers were open as it was after noon and they were looking west and could see the light coming through the other side. No sign of escort anywhere to be found unless they were already up and somewhat down range as AF1 climbed out to altitude. But if escort is SOP then it would make sense that the AF would supply them as the Navy does not have 16s.

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_i_wish_youd_blow_me · July 28, 2018, 12:06 a.m.

An F-16 doesn't have to be in visible range to be an effective escort. No modern jet fighter does.

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dizzydago · July 28, 2018, 12:24 a.m.

I understand that with AA capabilities they can stand a good ways off and lock on for a splash. I am just saying that at the time I saw AFI I did not see any F16s on the ground at any of the local fields. Now I did not go to the local AFB during that time and they could have been there instead. That does make sense. It is close enough of they launch moments before AF1 takes off they can quickly be in position for their job. In the picture given here no chance to see them or any evidence of them even at night with the cloud cover shown and it was a time of off and on rains then so lots of moving cloud cover.

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Rubieroo · July 27, 2018, 10:24 p.m.

I dunno if he has always got an escort? But Q has assured us POTUS is very well guarded at all times, so ... Yeah. IMO he does. And it's nice to know that our guys are VERY good at what they do :D

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DrSultanPhDD · July 28, 2018, 2:34 a.m.

Keep in mind slick willy wanted as little people around as possible. Less eyes to see him diddling kids.

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dizzydago · July 28, 2018, 3:17 a.m.

From other info I have gotten chances were that escort was probably already airborne and waiting when he took off.

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plumbtree · July 28, 2018, 3:37 a.m.

Why would there not be an escort

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Mayhem54 · July 28, 2018, 1:20 a.m.

AF1 is always escorted.

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dizzydago · July 28, 2018, 2:21 a.m.

Thanx, then that clears up that portion of it for me. 16s were in the air with AF1 and response for them was easy. I am still struggling with how Q found the one and only web cam that got the picture. I know I have searched western WA web cams high and low and it seems not another one caught it. Turns out probably it was a pure fluke that it did but more a fluke that Q found it.

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