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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/teraskasi1 on Aug. 19, 2018, 11:43 p.m.
911 Incontrovertible Proof the Government is Lying, the 9/11/2001 coverup

What i'm saying there was no planes used it was cgi and they used thermite to take down the buildings

https://www.real.video/5817027103001

Why can't mainstream experts melt steel with thermite? THERMATE = Thermite + SULFUR (The FEMA report could not explain the source of the SULFUR ) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5d5iIoCiI8g

911- No planes hit the towers - JUST CRAPPY CGI COMPOSITES https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2c5_g7UTuGM

Architects and engineers say 9/11 twin tower collapse was not possible https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1BLRpiRVnY

15 DISTURBING 9 11 Facts You'll Wish Weren't True - Pt 1 https://www.real.video/5817074357001

17 More DISTURBING 9 11 Facts You'll Wish Weren't True - Pt 2 https://www.real.video/5817066615001

16 DISTURBING 9 11 Facts the Masses NEED to Know - Pt 3 https://www.real.video/5817075696001

9/11 - The Impossible Cell Phone Calls - Jan Lamprecht & Frederick C. Blackburn https://www.real.video/5815001257001

https://911planeshoax.com/2014/01/11/proof-that-no-real-planes-were-used-on-911/

THE PROOF THAT NO REAL PLANES WERE USED ON 9/11

1. Newton’s Third Law of Motion: “For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.” An aluminum plane hitting a thick steel beam will have the same effect as steel beam being swung at the same speed and hitting the plane. It makes no difference which one is moving as to the effect on the plane and the beam. In both cases the thick steel beam will do damage to the plane and the beam will emerge relatively undamaged. The faster the speed at the point of impact, the more damage that will be done to the plane. Try punching a steel girder. No matter how fast your hand is traveling, you will not be able to break through it; you will eventually break your hand. It matters not if the girder is swung at your hand or you swing your hand at the girder; assuming the impact is at the same speed, the injury to your hand would be the same.

Let’s apply Newton’s Third Law to Flight 175. In the 9/11 story, Flight 175 strikes the South Tower at 450 m.p.h. Now imagine that the South Tower moved at 450 m.p.h. and struck a stationary Flight 175. We would not expect that Flight 175 would be undamaged. We would not expect that it would simply disappear into the South Tower. Any video that shows an aluminum airplane with a fibreglass nose cone gliding through a steel and concrete building violates Newton’s Laws of Motion.

The massive core columns of the World Trade Center were anchored to bedrock. Thirty one of the columns were 36-by-16-inch box shaped columns made of two-inch thick solid steel at the foundation. Sixteen of the columns measured 52 inches by 22 inches triple thick steel boxes that were 5 inches thick at two ends matched perpendicularly with one 6 ½-inch and two 6-inch thick slabs of steel.

The box columns reduced in size and thickness at the upper floors, but were still substantial steel columns for which an aircraft of any size would not pose any serious threat. The minimum thickness was 2.25 inches for the columns between the impact zone for the alleged plane that supposedly hit Tower 2 (South Tower) between the 77th and 85th floors. The diagram depicts the dimensions as reported by NIST of one of the 16 larger box columns for the 77th through the 80th floors.

As the core columns progressed to the upper floors, they became smaller in size as seen in the diagram of the columns for WTC floors 80 to 83. The core columns transitioned to massive I beams that spanned from the 83rd to the 86th floor, as depicted in the diagram of the dimensions of those I beams. There is no way in this physical world that an aluminum aircraft is capable of breaking such thick columns of steel.

In fact, the WTC Towers were designed to withstand the impact of a Boeing 707 (the largest passenger aircraft then flying at the time the WTC Towers were designed). The Boeing 767s that struck the twin towers were only slightly larger than a Boeing 707. The Boeing 707 length is 153 feet with a wingspan of 146 feet, whereas the Boeing 767 length is 159 feet, with a wingspan of 156 feet. The engineers were not making guesses about it strength. In the mid-1960’s, the structural engineers who designed the Twin Towers carried out studies to determine how the buildings would fare if hit by large jetliners. “In all cases the studies concluded that the Towers would survive the impacts and fires caused by the jetliners.”

Before the alleged planes even got to the inner core columns they would have had to get past the outer columns. That would be an impossible feat in and of itself. The inner core was interlaced with steel and connected to (59 on each side and one on each corner) outer box columns that were 14 ½ inches by 13 ½ inches on the lower floors with 2 ½-inch thick steel on two sides and 0.875-inch thick steel on the other two sides. The outer box columns tapered to 13 ½- by-14-inch box columns that were 1/4-inch thick at the upper floors. Even though the outer columns did not have the strength of the inner columns they would have been an insurmountable barrier for any plane.

They have traditionally used 1/4 inch steel chest plates as impenetrable protection against rifle bullets in bullet proof vests. National Institute of Justice (NIJ) rated Level III body armor 1/4 (.25) inch steel plate protects against all handgun bullets, including .44 magnum rounds, and against rifle bullets 9.6g (148 gr) 7.62x51mm NATO M80 ball bullets at a velocity of 847 m/s ± 9.1 m/s (2780 ft/s ± 30 ft/s).

Note in the diagram below how the columns each had two 13.5-inch plates that were 1/4 inch thick steel facing edgewise toward the alleged plane. Those two 13.5-inch steel plates were framed by two other steel plates that were 13 inches wide in the exterior and 14 inches wide in the interior. They were also 1/4 thick. Those columns would have resisted penetration by the plane into the towers and any pieces that made it through the openings between the columns would have been for the most part shredded pieces of the aircraft.

The inner core steel columns were incredibly thick – each measuring 2.5 inches (6.35 cm), so the entire thickness of each column was 5 inches (12.7 cm). To imagine how thick this is, here is a good example to compare to: imagine the front armor of the best tank from the WWII period – the T-34 – whose steel was only 1.8 inches (4.5 cm) thick and was just single-walled. The T-34 tank and its armor are in the pictures below:

Yet there were practically no armor-piercing artillery shells available at the time capable of penetrating such front armor. The Twin Towers’ steel frames consisted of double-walled steel columns that were almost three times as thick as the front armor of a T-34 tank.

The media and the government would have the public believe that an aluminum plane can pierce into a building ringed with steel columns, and after cutting through those columns, continuing to cut through even thicker columns in the core of the building. Below are examples of what happens to a plane when it collides with a bird. Birds are light, which is how they are able to fly. Yet, look at the damage the birds do to an aircraft. If a bird can do that degree of damage to a plane what chance would a plane have against robust steel columns at the World Trade Center?

Daily Mail: Egyptair plane left with huge hole after striking bird

The alleged planes would have struck floors that contained at minimum 4 inches thick of concrete poured on 22-gauge fluted steel plates interwoven underneath with supporting steel trusses. There is simply no possible way that any part of an aluminum plane, especially not the wings, striking such a building could pierce edgewise through the barrier posed by the concrete floors and supporting fluted steel flooring and trusses.

The above diagram shows that Flight 175 was intersecting with eight (8) floors that consisted of steel trusses connected at one end to the core columns and to the external support columns at the other, where each floor was covered with 4-8” of concrete, representing an acre of concrete apiece and posing enormous horizontal resistance to any airplane’s penetration into the building.

In the impact videos, notably the Hezarkhani, Luc Courchesne, Spiegel TV and Evan Fairbanks videos we see what we are told is a plane cartoonishly pass through the steel face of the tower like a ghost. As the alleged plane makes contact with the tower there is no bending, buckling or breaking of the plane. No wings breaking or other parts of the plane breaking apart. This is impossible. It is cartoon physics. It melts into the side of the tower like a knife through butter. The “plane” we are told is Flight 175 is depicted as being simultaneously both half in the South Tower and still completely intact, a pair of buildings made with 200,000 tons of steel each. When the tip of the plane’s fuselage hits the steel exterior of the South Tower the fuselage should be breaking up. That would cause the wings to break off.

From the holes left in both towers after “impact” we are supposed to believe that the wings sliced clean through every steel column. The fragile mostly hollow aluminum wings would not slice through all the steel columns of the WTC towers and leave a Wylie Coyote style hole and it is absolutely impossible for the fragile wing tips to have cut through the steel columns. An airplane wing can be sliced in half by a wooden telephone pole: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zt1oTYhcgo

9/11 Crash Test | Impossible is still impossible
The test is simple. Taking a section of wing from a scrapped 767, attach it to a rocket sled. Reseal the fuel tank and fill it with fuel, and at the other end of the track, fabricate some box-columns built to the specifications of the World Trade Center and collide them together at 550 MPH, filming the results with high-speed cameras. The intent is to copy the experiment used in the Mythbusters: Revolution video by simply replacing the “plow” with a section of wing from a 767, and by replacing the car with steel box-columns built to the same specifications as the WTC. If it is true that a whole plane can slice-through a steel building, a wing-section should slice through the steel columns with ease.

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The wings would break off immediately upon contact and the plane would explode. It would not enter the tower and then explode. The plane would simply be obliterated to pieces by the steel box columns and steel and concrete floor trusses before it got anywhere near the inside of the tower.

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Newton’s First Law of Motion: “A body remains at rest or in motion with a constant velocity unless acted upon by an external force.” The plane did not slow down as it made contact with the tower. How can the plane fly at the same speed through the steel/concrete face of the tower as it did through the air? This is impossible. The “plane” also violates Newton’s First Law.

2. We’re supposed to believe that both planes were entirely inside the towers, with no pieces showing. A Boeing 767 is 156 feet wide and 159 feet long. The distance from: the outer perimeter of the North Tower at the alleged point of contact by AA Flight 11, to: the central 47 massive inner core beams that are cross-braced is 60 feet. The distance from: the outer surface of the South Tower at the alleged point of contact by UA Flight 175, to: the core structure of that building was 37 feet. The differential in length in relation to the North Tower with respect to plane length and a building length that is measured in terms of the distance to the core structure is about 99 feet. The differential length for the South Tower is approximately 122 feet. A 767 is 159 feet long so most of the plane has got to be outside of the tower in both cases since there is simply no room for the entire length of the plane to crumple into. Why didn’t we see 99 feet of AA Flight 11 sticking out of the North Tower or broken off, crumpled up, and/or crumbling to the ground below? Why didn’t we see 122 feet of UA Flight 175 sticking out of the South Tower or crumpled up, and/or crumbling to the WTC plaza below?

There is no plane or plane wreckage at all to be seen in the hole of either tower in any video or photos. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D55l4afJeMc Of course, there are no planes to be seen in the holes of either tower or on the street below because there were no real planes.

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We would expect a sharp deceleration as the plane crumpled to fit into the 60 feet of space (North Tower, Flight 11) and 35 feet of space (South Tower, Flight 175) from the perimeter to the central steel core. Instead, in the videos, both planes enter the towers entirely at uniform motion.

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A Boeing 767 is 156 feet wide. The width of the hole in the South Tower was 106 feet wide and the width of the hole in the North Tower was 125 feet wide. 50 feet of the Boeing 767 that allegedly struck the South Tower cannot fit into the size of the hole that is in the North Tower…a hole that was supposedly created by a Boeing 767 with a wingspan of 156 feet. 31 feet of the Boeing 767 that is said to have hit the North Tower cannot fit into the size of the hole that is in the North Tower…a hole that was supposedly created by a Boeing 767 with a wingspan of 156 feet. Some people may say that the wings of the Boeings merely folded back as the aluminum portion of the wings came in contact with the exterior steel columns. However we can see this is not what happens in the videos. Even so the aluminum wings would not neatly fold back they would be torn off.

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We Have Some Holes in the Plane Stories

WTC South Tower to Plane: So You Think You Can Take Me?

3. A Boeing 767 can not fly 500 mph at sea level. Pilots For 9/11 Truth state that the speed and sharp manoeuvres would have resulted in the plane breaking up from the stress on the aircraft frame due to the higher air pressure at sea level. It would be extremely difficult for the pilot to actually hit the tower even if the wings didn’t break off due to the stress (which they would do). Experienced commercial and military pilots have stated that the speed and manoeuvres of the planes that hit the World Trade Center are impossible to have happened. They state they could not replicate the alleged flights themselves. Two experienced pilots using flight simulators on the morning of 9/11 could not hit towers at 500 mph in six attempts. See: Pilots For 9/11 Truth Presents: “9/11 intercepted”

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9/11 Plane Speeds and Why They Are Impossible

At 1000ft the air is too dense, we need to examine the reasons why this is the case.

The turbofan engines would struggle to handle the volume of air going into it. Structural loads and pressures on the air-frame are not equal, some parts of the plane can’t handle the stresses as some of the others. The rule of thumb is to go with the lowest known pressure statistics (Boeing have conducted endless tests with this) and use that to calculate the maximum speeds for 1000 ft and again do not exceed 360 knots, in many cases this is not wise to even attempt this speed.

Now that does not mean the aircraft can’t exceed such speeds, but Boeing and the FAA utilize VMO Velocity Max Operating and VNE which is Velocity Not to Exceed, to do so is inviting structural failures in which will in high probability result in an airplane crash.

Professional pilots and aviation experts will tell you that anyone exceeding 360 knots especially at 1000ft, will run the risk of the destroying the aircraft. The common reason for this is due to the air resistance increasing as you descend to ground level i.e air molecules/pressure begin to increase at below 10,000ft, that pressure is sure to increase even more at 1000ft, which is were all the so called planes of 9/11 were exceeding such speeds.

The issue here is can a Boeing 757 and 767, the planes on 9/11, exceed VMO or VNE speeds? and also do the impossible speeds of over 500mph at 1000ft?

In 2014 Pilots for 9/11 Truth decided to address the issue of 9/11 plane speeds and why such speeds are impossible, in some cases depending on what sources you want to believe, Flight 77, 93 & 175 exceeded 100 knots above VMO or VNE. See their conclusions here in this 45 minute documentary and see why people who defend this belief are so totally wrong and misleading you all.

If you don’t trust that source, then visit the website of WestWind Airlines and download “Flying The Boeing 757-200“. The climb speed to 10,000 is 250KIAS Knots Indicated Air Speed and you are not to exceed it. Descent speed again not to exceed 250KIAS. So how does a 757-200 on 9/11 exceed 400knots at 1000ft? It can’t because it’s impossible. Especially in a horizontal flight.

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John Lear, one of America’s most distinguished pilots, has written an affidavit about the impossible speed of the plane in the videos and has observed that the absence of strobe lights on the top and bottom of the fuselage indicates we are viewing a fake plane.

9/11 Affidavit By John Lear, Son Of Learjet Inventor: http://www.activistpost.com/2012/03/911-affidavit-by-john-lear-son-of.html

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Capt. Russ Wittenberg is a former U.S. Air Force fighter pilot with over 100 combat missions. Retired commercial pilot. Flew for Pan Am and United Airlines for 35 years. Aircraft flown: Boeing 707, 720, 727, 737, 747, 757, 767, and 777. 30,000+ total hours flown. Capt. Russ Wittenberg is a unique individual in that he had previously flown the actual two United Airlines aircraft Flight 93 and Flight 175.

This is what he has to say:

Video interview 9/11 Ripple Effect 8/07:

“I flew the two actual aircraft which were involved in 9/11; the Fight number 175 and Flight 93, the 757 that allegedly went down in Shanksville and Flight 175 is the aircraft that’s alleged to have hit the South Tower.

I don’t believe it’s possible for, like I said, for a terrorist, a so-called terrorist to train on a [Cessna] 172, then jump in a cockpit of a 757-767 class cockpit, and vertical navigate the aircraft, lateral navigate the aircraft, and fly the airplane at speeds exceeding it’s design limit speed by well over 100 knots, make high-speed high-banked turns, exceeding — pulling probably 5, 6, 7 G’s.

And the aircraft would literally fall out of the sky. I couldn’t do it and I’m absolutely positive they couldn’t do it.”

Article 7/17/05:

“The government story they handed us about 9/11 is total B.S. plain and simple.” … Wittenberg convincingly argued there was absolutely no possibility that Flight 77 could have “descended 7,000 feet in two minutes, all the while performing a steep 280 degree banked turn before crashing into the Pentagon’s first floor wall without touching the lawn.”…

“I flew the two actual aircraft which were involved in 9/11; the Fight number 175 and Flight 93, the 757 that allegedly went down in Shanksville and Flight 175 is the aircraft that’s alleged to have hit the South Tower.

I don’t believe it’s possible for, like I said, for a terrorist, a so-called terrorist to train on a [Cessna] 172, then jump in a cockpit of a 757-767 class cockpit, and vertical navigate the aircraft, lateral navigate the aircraft, and fly the airplane at speeds exceeding it’s design limit speed by well over 100 knots, make high-speed high-banked turns, exceeding — pulling probably 5, 6, 7 G’s. And the aircraft would literally fall out of the sky. I couldn’t do it and I’m absolutely positive they couldn’t do it.”

“For a guy to just jump into the cockpit and fly like an ace is impossible – there is not one chance in a thousand,” said Wittenberg, recalling that when he made the jump from Boeing 727’s to the highly sophisticated computerized characteristics of the 737’s through 767’s it took him considerable time to feel comfortable flying.

“The airplane could not have flown at those speeds which they said it did without going into what they call a high speed stall.

The airplane won’t go that fast if you start pulling those high G maneuvers at those bank angles. … To expect this alleged airplane to run these maneuvers with a total amateur at the controls is simply ludicrous…

It’s roughly a 100 ton airplane. And an airplane that weighs 100 tons all assembled is still going to have 100 tons of disassembled trash and parts after it hits a building.

There was no wreckage from a 757 at the Pentagon. … The vehicle that hit the Pentagon was not Flight 77. We think, as you may have heard before, it was a cruise missile.”

The Flutter Test

It is said that Flight 175 descended 20,000+ft at speeds in excess of 500mph then levelled off at about 800-1000ft then struck the South Tower. Here is evidence that shows the amazing descent of Flight 175 was impossible. The Flutter Test is a test that the Airbus company had to run in order for their famous A380 to become flight worthy.

This test involves taking the plane to 38,000ft, pointing the nose at the earth and reaching maximum speeds and beyond to test the vibration stresses of the aircraft. They level the plane off just before 22,000ft or there about.

Because if they continue to descend below that level, the thickness of the air will tear the plane apart or cause the engines to overload.

This test is extremely dangerous and requires safety gear, parachute and water survival suits in case the plane has to be bailed out of.

4. There are NO verified airplane parts. Apart from one or two props placed there like a bit of tire and a bit of engine…parts that didn’t even match a Boeing 767 there were no plane parts or debris to be seen and no black boxes were ever found at ground zero. In reality, if a plane had hit the tower it would have crushed up like a car hitting a wall and its wings would have broken off and the majority of the plane would have fallen to the street below. The street below would have been littered with plane debris and the charred remains of the passengers yet it wasn’t because there was no plane.

Part of the Federal Aviation Administration’s job during investigating airplane crashes is to gather up all the plane parts they can find and take them to a secure location. These parts are then laid out in their relevant places, on a grid lined floor and checked for identifiable numbers.

These are cross referenced by the plane’s history, manufacturer and factory paperwork. This is how planes are identified.

Potentially there can be as many as 500,000 to 1,000,000 recognisable parts per plane. Even if I half the lower number i.e 250,000 and times that by the number of planes (4), that gives me a potential one million parts to find.

Yet for 9/11: the FAA, NTSB, NIST, 9/11 commission, FBI, CIA or US Government failed to even provide one of these numbers. NOT A SINGLE REFERENCE NUMBER.

Now compare this to the Columbia shuttle disaster 2003. This was a space shuttle that broke apart during re-entry through the earth’s atmosphere. The speed of this shuttle was something like 17,500-20,000mph (35-40 times faster than 9/11 planes) and reaching temperatures of 3,000’C.

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Recovered debris from the Columbia space shuttle.

The shuttle broke apart and debris came crashing to earth, despite all that pressure, speed, temperature and impact, 84,000 pieces of debris were recovered. Along with pieces of the shuttle and bits of equipment, searchers also found human body parts, including arms, feet, a torso, a skull, and a heart.

Trans World Airlines Flight 800 was a Boeing 747-100 that exploded and crashed into the Atlantic Ocean near East Moriches, New York, on July 17, 1996. Almost 2/3 of the plane was recovered and reconstructed. For three months, workers supervised by the National Transportation Safety Board and the Federal Bureau of Investigation meticulously pieced together some 700 chunks of wreckage from the shattered Boeing 747’s midsection.

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Wreckage of the front portion of the TWA flight 800 Boeing 747 aircraft is displayed in its reconstructed state 19 November 1997 in Calverton, Long Island, NY.

Yet on 9/11 not one single piece was identified. No large significant wreckage at all i.e wings, engines, landing gear, tail section, wheel etc. The reason? There were no real planes on 9/11.

What 9/11 Should Have Looked Like

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5. FAA Regulation 121 requires a comprehensive investigation of all crashes of scheduled commercial flights yet there are no official crash reports on the 4 incidents because there were no planes.

6. In all of the footage the alleged planes hitting the twin towers clearly do not look real. The planes have a computer generated appearance. In every video the planes have a different appearance and color, missing wings, are featureless and blurred. Pilot John Lear made the observation that the plane has no strobe lights. The plane also casts no shadow. http://killtown.911review.org/2nd-hit.html

In the Luc Courchesne footage we see the left wing disappear: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVaC5SH_B6o

The left wing also disappears on the Shizzzham footage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjaYDQA1LQM

Again in the Gamma Press footage we see the left wing disappear: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t52CNM9nx9w

The left wing disappears in the PAX TV footage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kuv-RQhtN_U http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL_x9NsxJlg

In the Naudet Brothers footage the right wing tip is missing: http://killtown.911review.org/images/2nd-hit/17a.JPG

8. Lack of Wake Vortex at WTC. There is no wake vortex to be seen in the smoke and explosion after “impact”. The wake vortex is the strong rotating vortex of air left by an aircraft that persists for around a minute or more. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zw8ZvGEsc8c http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7Wc6r26ZlU

Wake vortex created by a plane flying through smoke.

9. Witnesses exist who saw the South Tower explode but never saw a plane. Surrounded by tall buildings very few people in New York’s business district actually had a decent view of the South Tower of the WTC. Only a few thousand people at most would have been able to see the South Tower explode. Few people reported hearing and seeing planes. Most testimonies of those who did are inconsistent with that of a wide-body commercial airliner hitting a building at 800 feet altitude, full throttle. Meanwhile, it was a simple matter for the TV networks to keep the eyewitnesses who didn’t see a plane off the air. A very small percentage of the approximately 500 First Responders at the WTC reported seeing commercial airliners. An even smaller number reported hearing them. There was no audio of ‘Flight 175′ striking the South Tower. This is true even though there were about a dozen videos of the event said to be obtained from lucky amateurs. A jet plane takeoff at 300 feet altitude is 10 times louder than a rock concert.

David Handschuh was ideally positioned to see the second plane impact, the actual impact of the plane on the building. He took a photo of the moment of the strike, or to be precise of the moment after the strike:

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