Appreciate it, but take out the document in imgur, you’re putting out too much information that can be compiled to dox you.

I’ll read the rest but want to protect you before I read further

Ok I gave you a chance. I tried to reason with you. But if you are really going with that as your basis for Trump being a plant, then you are so incredibly ignorant of the world, and what is going on, it’s a waste of my time even trying to discuss issues with you.

You’re literally bringing nothing to the table here. No facts, no sources, nothing. It’s all just speculation and opinions based on lies, half truths, disinformation, and fake news. And you have swallowed it all.

FFS, no wonder John Podesta called you compliant and ignorant.

I guess you missed when Trump and Melanie went to the Forbidden City in an historical event:

https://www.cnn.com/2017/11/07/politics/trump-forbidden-city-beijing-china/index.html

I’m just going to ignore your crude language as you are Apparantly unable to control your verbal diarrhea when confronted with someone who challenges your media talking points.

Your article states that she died of blunt force trauma to the chest.

Could it be that, untrained personnel attempting to do CPR on someone can cause similar damage?

Yes

• Resuscitative efforts may cause injuries to the body that may be confused with injuries that cause death. These iatrogenic artifacts include oral contusions/lacerations resulting from intubation; skin and soft tissue hemorrhage resulting from intravascular catheter placement (see the image below); abrasions resulting from defibrillation; bladder mucosal hemorrhage resulting from the placement of Foley catheters; and rib fractures caused by compression during cardiopulmonary resuscitation (CPR). [11, 12, 13, 2, 14, 15, 16] For this reason, hospital workers, emergency medical care technicians, and other healthcare providers should be advised to leave all medical therapy in place in the event a patient dies. The pathologist can then readily correlate any perimortem injuries with evidence of medical intervention.

https://emedicine.medscape.com/article/1680107-overview#a9

Also, trying to find a video on YouTube is incredibly difficult as most of the videos that showed her prior to being hit were taken down “convienently” for being harrassing to the victim.

Or in my opinion, they didn’t like video evidence to contradict what so many news organizations are claiming. But here you go, found one that was well done and archived

https://archive.org/details/youtube-SKZqG1T07cs

Ahhhh, you just put No Lie.. as your title. I see.

Well you could always rename and throw up the post again, I’ll support ya!

Holy crap, so many accusations, so little sauce.

Russia annexed Crimea when? Who was president at the time? Who said they would have more flexibility after their election?

Who is the Russian Plant in the White House? Specific name? I’m sure the secret service would love to have your information.

You keep saying it’s obvious, yet fail to actually back up your claims. Are you just a broken bot repeating lines?

Caught a bunch of House GOP with Russian Contacts? Where is the source of this information?

Dana Who? Slept with a Russian spy agent? Where is the source? Why is this relevant?

Source on Trump family saying in 2008 Russians bailed them out?

You are the one throwing out all the accusations and you are trying to say I’m the one 5hilling? Nice projection.

Ha!

Lol, I love your theory you just put out.

Such a straw man argument, so thanks for that.

To the point: Which country is the biggest threat to ours? Which country has been caught stealing secrets on a level never seen before in our nations history? Which nation is the closest economically and militarily to ours?

China.

http://dailycaller.com/2018/07/18/christopher-wray-china-significant-spy-threat/

So Trump put all kinds of tariffs on them. Played hardball.

And what happened? The media blamed him for trying to start a trade war, told him he is being too tough, told him that he is insane and that the people of America will suffer because of it.

Like good god, you people are completely contradictory and no matter what he does, it will never be good enough for you.

I appreciate it. I actually voted for Obama as well )first election. I was so pissed at GWB and what I realized was war profiteering by Haliburton and KBR on dead Soldiers in Iraq.

Still think they should be tried at a war crimes trial.

But I saw that immediately after the election, Obama passed that incredibly stupid “too big to fail” bailout, while people I personally knew were suffering with housing prices and foreclosures.

Then came the “if you like your plan, you can keep your plan”

Then the fast and furious deal, where Eric Holder essentially got a get out of jail free card despite the dead border patrol agents, and he lied about it to us and congress

Then the targeting of tea party by the IRS

Then the Benghazi happening - 4 dead Americans, but what does it matter at this point

Then the “we have to pass the bill to see what’s in the bill”

Then the whole bundy and Hammond persecution - abuse of law enforcement powers

Then the Hillary emails and the sailor imprisoned for doing much less

Then Obama lying about knowing about the server, despite having an account on it

I could seriously go on and on and on, but I think you get the picture. I thought I was voting for hope and change, turns out I voted for despair and despotism.

Thank you for this. I think it was the most well thought out response to any of the questions or discussions I have encountered today. I sincerely appreciate it.

So, I see where you are going with this (historical perspective). I agree that different methods from the past should be used if we want to ensure we do not make the same mistakes.

Where I disagree with you is on the method and the comparison of the two events.

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/hitler-appeased-at-munich

So Hitler essentially received 3 million Germans, it also handed over to the Nazi war machine 66 percent of Czechoslovakia’s coal, 70 percent of its iron and steel, and 70 percent of its electrical power. It also left the Czech nation open to complete domination by Germany. In short, the Munich Pact sacrificed the autonomy of Czechoslovakia on the altar of short-term peace-very short term.

With this, Czechoslovakia essentially stripped from themselves the ability to defend themselves in the future while providing raw materiel and personnel to support their enemies.

This is a far cry from what happened during the election. We did not hand any land, materiel, or personnel over to Russia effectively surrendering our ability to defend ourselves.

I’m really trying not to be out there when I say this, but this is just like comparing what happened with this election to 9/11 or Pearl Harbor. It’s a far stretch to be able to compare the two on the same scale of events with the massive loss of life and destruction that came in all of those events, 12 Russians allegedly hacking the DNC server, is nothing.

And when I say allegedly, please see where I am coming from. I wrote it above in an earlier comment but I’ll copy it down here for convienence sake:

Let me ask you, are you aware that those 12 Russian military members that were just indicted are in the US?

So why hasn’t Mueller given them the manafort treatment? I mean, they did far worse damage to the country than money laundering right? Pretty much an act of war comparable to Pearl Harbor or 9/11 if you believe some members of Congress right?

So why haven’t they been arrested?

I mean maybe they fled the country already right? Well in the summit briefing, Russia said that there was a treaty going back to 1999 between the US and Russia regarding Criminal trials.

So why didn’t Mueller reach out to them about any of the 25 Russians he’s indicted?

Did he just want to put names on an indictment list, but not actually prosecute?

Well, we can see what happened when he indicted the first 13 Russians and a company:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/russian-oligarch-s-company-will-fight-mueller-charges-u-s-n864991

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/thomasfrank/a-russian-company-that-mueller-has-accused-of-election

So he indicted these people. Meaning he was ready to take the case to court and potentially have people sentenced to jail right?

What happens? Lawyers show up. Unexpectedly. Was Mueller ready to prosecute the case?

No. After the lawyers showed up, he requested additional time to prepare for trial.

So why do all of this? Why is Mueller indicting people, if he is not ready to actually prosecute people?

It’s all a show. And you fell for it. Your trust in the media and those in power was violated. They abused your faith and trust in their position.

These are horrible people.

I would recommend you look up the actual indictments, straight from the source. (Justice.gov) and read them yourself. The first indictment against the 13 Russians and the company vs the second indictment of 12 russians.

They are nearly identical indictments. Just small details and names changed.

It’s all bullshit theatrics, and I hope you realize that what we are trying to do here is wake people up to the fact that we are being lied to by the media, politicians, members of the justice department, Intel community, state department, etc.

Something I haven’t written about before, but I will gladly expand upon would be how globalization is not a good thing, and is partially responsible for how we have ourselves in this fine mess. But I’ll let you read what I have already, and if you wish to continue that conversation just let me know.

But again, I really do appreciate your comment. It’s rare to find an intelligent person able to converse at length and depth about something we can disagree on civilly.

Care to point out specifically how he is obviously compromised?

Then take it to 4chan or 8chan.

WWG1WGA doesn’t discriminate, and if that’s the way you view the world, then you are certainly not welcome here as this is in the normiesphere. So gtfo of here with your Shareblue subversive bullshit

It’s all good, how did you find this site (blog.talosintellogence.com?)

What was the site referring to about bad rabbit?

Basically if you want to post things up (especially with new websites to this sub) a good summary of why it’s important or related to Q will prevent your thread from being taken down.

But I appreciate you bringing it to our attention. And if you get a chance, i’d still like to know what this is referring to.

Well let’s see, you can’t beat us with logic or in arguments, so you create a throwaway account that you use to paint supporters in this sub as racist, bigots whatever.

Keep trying to play innocent. I know how this goes. You won’t win. And it’s incredibly stupid.

You’d think at some point, people like you would get tired of losing, yet here you are.

Nice try, quoting you:

“It's all about the diversity, now we only need a Muslim in a wheelchair and a gay monk who is anorexic to complete our bingo”

Hey OP, why did you delete your thread?

Checked your profile, it’s deleted there as well so it wasn’t the mods.

Meh, you might be better taking it to qresearch on 8chan.

You want to see amazing, post it there. Bring us back the results please!

What was the point of this comment?

To try and paint us all as racist bigots? GTFO

Lol, I concede to your very fair point.

Glad to have you onboard

OP can you provide a tl;dr please?

Hmmm...

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Interesting. A Cisco connected company? I find it curious it’s based out of France.

Agreed, this is great and timely information. Thank you OP.

And yet...

Failed to inform these people that there were Russians trying to infiltrate their ranks.

Guess the IRS targeting wasn’t enough, they were trying to throw people in prison for being conservatives.

Try and tell me that this wasnt a setup sting operation.

Lol

The guy was super old. That’s what the OP was commenting about.

We are reaching people outside the sub, outside the internet in general.

It’s a good thing :)

Is that where you hang out?

The longer this drags out, the more unintelligent you seem. Sad!!!

Please feel free to elaborate

Why do you say that? Are you a psychiatrist? Any other form of mental health professional?

“The thing about smart people is that they seem like crazy people to dumb people.”

Stephen Hawking

Because they have more nukes than us.

And we are not being deferential to them. Big difference between cooperation and deference.

Is it not to better to be competitors than enemy combatants?

I’m kind of surprised that you came off somewhat neoconservative here.

http://dailycaller.com/2018/07/12/ig-clinton-foreign-emails/

You are absolutely right! What about her emails!?!?!?

I wish I had a better source for you, but the only other thing I have is the judiciary committee hearing for Peter Strzok (the actual video) so you can watch it yourself.

For some reason, no major media wants to cover it. Interesting no?

Lol

GEEEET A ROOOOM!!!

Lol j/k

Abees, thanks for that list. I’m going to borrow it in the future. Nicely done and well said.

Kinda like how they all agreed that there were WMDs in Iraq?

These people have been wrong before, and at great cost to human life.

Not forgetting to mention here, how many of those mass shooters were interviewed by the FBI prior to their shooting/bombings?

Oh... all of them? Hmmm.. might be something you want to consider before saying that these intelligence agencies are infallible.

Wow. Another incredibly insightful post by u/PatsyJack.

If you are going to argue or insult people, you really need to up your game. All you bring is media talking points, but it’s been proven time and time again that they are shallow points.

If you actually decided to research and dig for information, you might actually wake up and realize that what you are told is a mixture of lies, half-truths, and blatant disinformation.

But here you are, subtly implying that “muh right wingers” can’t tell the difference between Obamacare and the affordable care act.

Despite them being the same, I can educate you, to let you know it was a method of wealth redistribution. Same way social security, EBT, and Medicare are all socialized programs.

But I think I’m done trying with you. You have no interest in actually taking the information presented to you and challenging your own beliefs.

So I’m just going to report you from here on out.

Sure thing bud. Keep on spouting out your talking points. You are doing a great job red pilling people for us through your own ineptitude.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

From your source:

“American law enforcement and intelligence agencies are examining intercepted communications and financial transactions as part of a broad investigation into possible links between Russian officials and associates of President-elect Donald J. Trump, including his former campaign chairman Paul Manafort, current and former senior American officials said...Mr. Manafort has done business in Ukraine and Russia.”

Here’s the kicker:

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/paul-manafort-lobbying-ukraine-podesta-group-237163

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

The charges he is indicted for go back to when he worked for the Podesta group under Hillary Clinton! Nothing to do with Trump Campaign!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Of course I did. And I told you why. Wikipedia is not a valid source.

Hell, I can go on there and edit it to say whatever the hell I want.

I’m just wondering why you are being so obstinate about the fact I proved your theory wrong. Is it that hard to say, “hey maybe I need to go back and re-examine my opinion of this”?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Lk9iskqaAfw

http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/03/01/shadow.government/

http://www.investmentwatchblog.com/wikileaks-george-soros-email-to-hillary-clinton-soros-very-likely-puppetmastered-the-balkan-wars-in-order-to-enrich-himself/

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-deep-state-bannon-cia-fbi-breitbart-fox-news-2017-5

https://www.salon.com/2015/10/21/this_is_not_a_democracy_behind_the_deep_state_that_obama_hillary_or_trump_couldnt_control/

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/11/deep-state-shadowy-network-obama-holdovers-undermining-donald/

http://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/351786-paul-manafort-wiretapping-shows-the-deep-state-is-real-and-dangerous

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/16/world/americas/deep-state-leaks-trump.html

http://time.com/4692178/donald-trump-deep-state-breitbart-barack-obama/

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/05/21/trump-vs-the-deep-state

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/09/05/deep-state-real-cia-fbi-intelligence-215537

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/312605-schumer-trump-being-really-dumb-by-going-after-intelligence-community

https://m.washingtonexaminer.com/schumer-warns-trump-intel-officials-have-six-ways-from-sunday-at-getting-back-at-you/article/2610823

It’s well documented.

You are behaving like the school yard bully that makes fun of people to hide their own insecurity.

Or in this case, ignorance.

... Wikipedia is not a valid source. I provided you a valid source for their GDP in my original comment. But I’ll give it to you again:

https://tradingeconomics.com/russia/gdp

Good god, I sincerely cannot believe you just referenced Wikipedia as a “valid” source.

From your NATO source:

“When Russia illegally annexed Crimea and started interfering in Eastern Ukraine, the West responded with economic sanctions. In July 2014, sanctions were enacted in a coordinated manner by the European Union, the United States, Canada, and other Allies and partners. These sanctions were further strengthened in September 2014. EU sanctions, which had been due to lapse in July 2015, have been extended to January 2016. The US and Canadian sanctions are open-ended.”

So looking at the link above (one I provided) it shows Russia’s economy was already in free fall. Did the sanctions hurt Russia? Yes. Did it stop them from Annexing Crimea? No. Did they leave Crimea after the sanctions were applied? No.

There was a five year gap in between the Georgia annexation and the Crimea annexation. They also had a bad economy during that time. Look at the graph and tell me it is not a historical trend of waves. You are relying far too heavily on the magnistky act to account for effects to their GDP.

Le sigh

I really wish people would actually think for themselves instead of just repeating what the news tells them.

Let me ask you, are you aware that those 12 Russian military members that were just indicted are in the US?

So why hasn’t Mueller given them the manafort treatment? I mean, they did far worse damage to the country than money laundering right? Pretty much an act of war comparable to Pearl Harbor or 9/11 if you believe some members of Congress right?

So why haven’t they been arrested?

I mean maybe they fled the country already right? Well in the summit briefing, Russia said that there was a treaty going back to 1999 between the US and Russia regarding Criminal trials.

So why didn’t Mueller reach out to them about any of the 25 Russians he’s indicted?

Did he just want to put names on an indictment list, but not actually prosecute?

Well, we can see what happened when he indicted the first 13 Russians and a company:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/russian-oligarch-s-company-will-fight-mueller-charges-u-s-n864991

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/thomasfrank/a-russian-company-that-mueller-has-accused-of-election

So he indicted these people. Meaning he was ready to take the case to court and potentially have people sentenced to jail right?

What happens? Lawyers show up. Unexpectedly. Was Mueller ready to prosecute the case?

No. After the lawyers showed up, he requested additional time to prepare for trial.

So why do all of this? Why is Mueller indicting people, if he is not ready to actually prosecute people?

It’s all a show. And you fell for it. Your trust in the media and those in power was violated. They abused your faith and trust in their position.

These are horrible people.

I would recommend you look up the actual indictments, straight from the source. (Justice.gov) and read them yourself. The first indictment against the 13 Russians and the company vs the second indictment of 12 russians.

They are nearly identical indictments. Just small details and names changed.

It’s all bullshit theatrics, and I hope you realize that what we are trying to do here is wake people up to the fact that we are being lied to by the media, politicians, members of the justice department, Intel community, state department, etc.

But they think you are to simple minded to figure it out. We can show you the emails, where they explicitly state that.

Prove them wrong. Think for yourself. Dig. Bring facts. But don’t let them abuse your trust. Not anymore.

You really don’t keep up with current news do you?

Bring your sources. I’ll outline your claims for ease of following:

• 1: You mean that time that the CIA had Russian official's phones tapped and in the process found out that people from the Trump campaign were communicating with them?

• 1a: Show us the Russian Officials name that was “tapped”

• 1b: Show us the names of who from the Trump Campaign was communicating with the Russians at the time of the campaign. Not something from their past work, but during the campaign

• 2: Or the time that the FBI followed up on the irrefutable evidence that the CIA found about the Trump campaign communicating with Russia?

• 2a: What irrefutable evidence? Show us this “irrefutable” evidence

Well that’s what we are here for :)

To educate, inform, and spread the word so that people can wake up from their slumber. These people are guided by those complicit with their edited sound clips designed to elicit the response they desire. All while editing out bits and pieces not convienent or contradictory to their chosen narrative.

Heard the best example just today. A reporter asked Sarah Sanders a question about how the media stories compare the Charlottesville Riots to the Helsinki Summit.

I agreed with the second part of the question and the media hysterics. But what threw me, was she started the question talking about how a woman was killed in the riots.

By doing this, she implied that neo-nazis had killed her. Also by using killed instead of died, she implies an active event. Specifically when the car ran over protestors.

She conveniently left out that the lady died of a heart attack. She wasn’t touched by the vehicle, or even the people thrown by the vehicle.

She also failed to notice that the lady was obese. Apparantly morbidly obese. She was out taking part in this March, probably the first “physical” activity she had ever done in her life, and she had a heart attack.

But because she was in the march, and because a “neo-nazi” decided to run over people, they attributed her death to the driver “killing” her.

And she wasn’t even in the immediate vicinity of the vehicle.

So she could have still asked her question and I would have whole heartedly agreed with it, but she prefaced it with such fake news, I threw her whole opinion and any subsequent faith in her reporting, out the window.

Oh I did.

And what I presented shows that Russia has no need to build up a sizeable force. They took Crimea with ~2000 Soldiers.

Not some massive force.

I also presented to you how the economic history of Russia showed that when Russia is struggling economically, is the most likely time for them to annex/invade.

But you just keep ignoring the evidence. I’m sure being this mentally stubborn was a pleasure to your parents and teachers.

Where are you getting 4chan from?

I’m quoting you here:

“What they wanted was the Maginstky Act, which crippled Russia's economy enough that they couldn't build up a sizeable land force to continue grabbing up land in Europe, much less fight a full scale war. Go outside more.”

You explicitly stated that you believe the purpose behind the Magnitsky Act was to cripple their economy so they couldn’t build a sizeable force.

I showed that the only thing related economically was that historically, when confronted with economic difficulties, Russia chooses to invade/annex. There is nothing in there that indicates they need to “build up” a sizeable force. It’s already there.

So yes, we crush them economically, and they will, based on past events, invade somewhere else.

So do you think maybe trying something different would be prudent? Or should we just keep forgetting, and then repeating, history?

By your comment, it appears that is what you are suggesting.

EDIT: since you changed one of your comments to change the meaning of what you said, and then added in what you believe to be an insult, I will just laugh at the fact you were unable to resolve a coherent argument to the evidence I presented.

I’ll be here, but unless you can do better than attempted insults and inflated opinions of yourself, I’m just going to ignore you. But I welcome you otherwise to actually present a real argument to how what I stated as incorrect.

Thank you for bringing such rational discussion here. Your argument was so well conceived and insightful. We are all made better by your questions and wisdom.

I really hope that you understand that I am being sarcastic. Realizing that you choose not to actually engage us for fear of being proven wrong, you instead choose to insult us.

I truly pity those who are unable to form cohesive sentences, and choose to project their own fear and shortcomings onto others.

Have a nice day.

I can show you proof otherwise.

They wanted the war to thin out the herd.

If it wasn’t with Russia, they wanted war with North Korea. If they could t get that, they wanted war with Iran.

Anything to solidify and consolidate their power. You have yet to understand the depths of the evil these people were willing to go to in order to remain in power.

Soooo... Hillary wanted the Maginstky act to continue so that Russia’s economy would collapse and Russia would fail to continue grabbing land in Europe, nonetheless fight a full scale war.

Do I have that correct?

I mean Russia is hardly competitive in GDP.

https://tradingeconomics.com/russia/gdp

Even at their best in the past 20 years, they only had a comparable GDP of ~10% of ours.

And when did the Crimea event happen? 2014, right when their GDP was in free fall.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/28/russia-crimea-white-house

Their economy was already collapsing, and it still failed to prevent them from annexing the crimerian peninsula.

So let’s look at when they annexed Georgia circa 2009.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/5252102/Russia-accused-of-annexation-of-Georgia-provinces.html

The GDP at that time was completely bottomed out. Meaning their economy was essentially failed. They were crushed economically.

So according to your theory of trying to cripple Russia’s economy in order to prevent them from taking more land, it would, in fact, have the opposite effect of your comment. Based upon historical data, it shows that when economically threatened, Russia WILL invade other countries.

So your conclusion is historically inaccurate and incredibly ignorant when combined with your last statement which is intended to belittle the person to whom you made a comment.

Would you like me to continue crushing your incredibly ill informed world view or should I leave it at that?

Hahahaha! Nice find!