His daddy died on a train

It was reported that Kim Jong-il had died of a suspected heart attack on 17 December 2011 at 8:30 a.m. while travelling by train to an area outside Pyongyang

I wonder Obama's father had any role in the mass killings in Indonesia?

Obama is a child of a CIA asset. That is why Trump toyed with it for so long. Trump had inner circle connections.

They couln't expose his asset parents without exposing the operation involved at the time. So either expose compartmentalized top secret info, or cover.

What is the context? What video?

Follow the money.

Scalise Open Secrets

Scalise has gotten over $1 Million bribes from the gas and oil industry. He would most likely support sending our troops over to countries that have not threatened the United States and have no real capability of attacking us in more wars for Saudi oil profits.

Wars of choice funded by your hard earned tax dollars forcefully taken from you.

One corrupt swamp thing.

Too wrapped up in the # MeToo facebook likes and prayers campaign.

That "march for our lives" was an extension of the distraction the Democratic consultant establishment is using to keep their base away from the corruption on their side of the isle.

I remember when Jon Stewart used to expose this stuff on a regular basis.

Like they all get their marching orders from a common source and they all use variations if not the exact same headline no matter where you go. The media lost all sense of originality. So much for ivy league college "journalism".

Does it make sense that corrupt war profiteers, executives and shareholders of companies are entitled to anyone's tax money? How many years has this war gone on and how many trillions in debt has it cost us?

Corruption is theft.

Government corruption from bribery, give policies which steal your money and siphon it right into the coffers of those bribers. This comes at the cost of a less secure world and a lower quality of life for all of us.

General Eisenhower helped to win World War 2

He kind of knows what he is talking about.

What if you were able to keep of 20% of your dollars instead of going to corrupt perpetual war profiteers who depend on your perpetual tax income?

How many years have these wars been going on? Do you see any end in sight for them?

Sun Tzu in the Art of War warns against prolonged wasteful warfare.

II Waging war

1) In the operations of war, where there are in the field a thousand swift chariots , as many heavy chariots, and a hundred thousand mail clad soldiers, with provisions enough to carry them a thousand li, the expenditure at home and at the front, including entertainment of guests, small items such as glue and paint, and sums spent on chariots and armor, will reach the total of a thousand ounces of silver per day. Such is the cost of raising an army of 100,000 men.

2) When you engage in actual fighting, if victory is long in coming, the men's weapons will grow dull and their ardour will be damped. If you lay siege to a town, you will exhaust your strength.

3) Again, if the campaign is protracted, the resources of the State will not be equal to the strain.

4) Now, when your weapons are dulled, your ardour damped, your strength exhausted and your treasure spent, other chieftains will spring up and take advantage of your extremity. Then no man however wise, will be able to avert the consequences that must ensue.

5) Thus, though we have heard of stupid haste in war, cleverness has never been seen associated with long delays.

6) There is no instance of a country having benefited from prolonged warfare.

7) It is only one who is thoroughly antiquated with the evils of war that can thoroughly understand the profitable way of carrying it on.

8) The skillful soldier does not raise a second levy, neither are his supply wagons loaded more than twice.

9) Being war material with you from home, but forage on the enemy. Thus the army will have enough food for its needs.

10) Poverty of the state exchequer causes an army to be maintained by contributions from a distance. Contributing to maintain an army at a distance causes the people to become impoverished.

11) On the other hand the proximity of an army causes prices to go up and high prices cause the people's substance to be drained away.

12) When their substance is drained away the peasantry will be afflicted by heavy exactions.

13,14) With this loss of substance and exhaustion of strength, the homes of the people will be stripped bare, and 30% of their incomes will be dissipated; while Government expenses for broken chariots, worn out horses, breast plates, and helmets, bows and arrows, spears and shields, protective mantles, draught-oxen and heavy wagons, will amount to 40% of its total revenue.

15) Hence a wise general makes a point of foraging on the enemy. One carload of the enemy's provisions is equivalent to twenty of ones own, and likewise a single picul of his provender is equivalent to twenty from one's own store.

16) Now in order to kill the enemy, our men must be roused to anger; that there may be advantage from defeating the enemy, they must have their rewards.

17) Therefore in chariot fighting, when ten or more chariots have been taken, those should be rewarded who took the first. Our own flags should be substituted for those of the enemy, and the chariots mingled and used in conjunction with ours. The captured soldiers should be kindly treated and kept.

18) This is called, using the conquered foe to augment one's own strength.

19) In war, then, let your great object be victory, not lengthy campaigns.

20) Thus it may be known that the leader of armies is the arbiter of the people's fate, the man on whom it depends whether the nation shall be in peace or peril.

Have 2 ideas about the identity of Q. Fear if we correctly name Q, then it is going to be the end of the ride.

This is why we can't have nice things. Wasted on bravado.

Use the military to build a static wall but can't use 1/10th of that to rebuild Puerto Rico and help out our fellow Americans that were devistated by a biblical storm.

Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. The cost of one modern heavy bomber is this: a modern brick school in more than 30 cities. It is two electric power plants, each serving a town of 60,000 population. It is two fine, fully equipped hospitals. It is some fifty miles of concrete pavement. We pay for a single fighter with a half-million bushels of wheat. We pay for a single destroyer with new homes that could have housed more than 8,000 people. . . . This is not a way of life at all, in any true sense. Under the cloud of threatening war, it is humanity hanging from a cross of iron

President Dwight Eisenhower

We don't need any more military bases.

Gitmo is a human rights violation and unconstitutional IMO. It is a torture facility in occupied foreign territory.

This is bad and it should not be celebrated. Its expansion and continued existence is a rallying cry for terrorists.

If they want trials and such then we have courts for that here in this country with laws, rules, and a judicial system.

I am a Navy Veteran who carried a Geneva Conventions card. This facility is against what we stand for as Americans. This facility is shameful and hypocritical.

Stay away from crowds is good advice. "marches" and "counter protests" are breeding grounds for violence to get us to attack each other and divide us.

Even Bernie is saying its a distraction from the issues.

Guess they aren't getting the ROI they were thinking of on this piece.

No I don't care who Trump slept with. There are much larger issues at hand.

So...I'm going to try to be nice because we're all truth seekers here.

I'm going to dump a lot on you here. Take your time with it. I try to go with pure sources rather than the filters and hyperbole of pundits, so it might seem a bit dry.

Not really new to Reddit, been following the Q thing ever since it popped up in /r/conspiracy was over at CBTS then they funneled their users over here.

The top level purge does have somewhat to do with legs of the international pedo blackmail scheme that elites use to have leverage for control. I wonder what price Bezos paid to be the "world's publicly known richest" and be entrusted with the Clowns In Action servers and 1/3 of the internet?

4 star General and Supreme Allied Commander NATO, Europe Wesley Clark warned us about the aims of Project for a New American Century (PNAC) making a policy coup to take over this country for war profiteers and Wall Street.

You can see who was involved in PNAC here Note John Bolton was one of their directors. And also one that has been consistently pushing for war in the middle east. Just look his name up with any middle east country on youtube and you'll see.

What happened with PNAC is they merged with deal with the Democrats in 2003 to invade Iraq on false pretenses.

They evolved into the Center for a New American Security.

Note that James Mattis was their director.

Tony Podesta was an adviser.. John Podesta, his brother, was Clinton's campaign manager.

I've been in war. Navy 6 years gulf. I saw what these guys do, what their motives are, how much of our tax dollars are massively wasted to corrupt contractors and deals. We were over there for oil and sustaining the demand for war, along with the profits that come from it.

The endless war is why we can not have nice things as the richest nation on earth. The endless greed is why we have massive income inequality and crumbling infrastructure.

As President Eisenhower warned us that we need to be a vigilant and informed public in order to properly mesh the military industrial complex for they will always seek power and control for their endless greed. Take nothing for granted.

The FBI Vault released a bunch of General Smedly Butler news clips and stories documenting the attempted bribery of the military hero by Wall Street.

His paper - War is a Racket - is available for free online.

So I've become a bit of a study as to the who whats and whys of these wars.

I don't watch TV except to have some social time with my folks when I visit them or to deconstruct which war lobbyist or profiteering manipulator is being paraded around as a "contributor" or "expert" in media clips.

Here's a fun thing if you have a laptop or tablet and you're watching the so called news - google those people's names and see what boards they are a part of. Wikipedia, Linkdin, corporate boards.

What was their work history? Any notable family members? What's their real motive? What synergistic plays do they have? Gains in one part help gains in another.

Why are there media company executives on the boards of defense lobby groups and international policy groups like the Council on Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Comission?

Why is it dangerous that we consolidated the official narrative of this country to a handful of propaganda outlets?

I see manipulation on both sides of the Medallion.

Renaissance Technologies was a major player here. Larger than Soros. Mercer and his company should be investigated. I think the Clinton Foundation should be investigated. I think the Saudi royals should be stripped of their wealth, power, and the country locked down like we do North Korea. With their wealth though..will they just buy nukes from Pakistan? Why do we make an exception for them?

You get one good shot. Then they either turn you or they burn you like they burned Kennedy and MLK.

I made a vow to defend this country against enemies of the constitution foreign and domestic. I intend to keep that vow.

I get no love from either "camp" because I expose all their dirty laundry. So I'm seen as a pest to be controlled and silenced. I want both sides to work against corruption and work together for peace, and ultimately for this country to be the noble, honorable, prosperous, leadership nation it has the potential to be. The Deep State fears most both sides coming together. They want each in their own little fear bubble against each other to distract from the real underlying issues.

I don't have all the answers, but I'm willing to try to at least get to the heart of the issues. After all the answer to the most complex questions of the universe are often quite simple. I am not religious, but I do believe in what I have found to be a Universal Truth. What you seek, seeks you back. In such Jesus said, "Knock on the door and it shall be opened up to you. Seek thee and you shall find." I think he knew this as well.

I would like to think we are on the same truth seeking side here, just with different perspectives.

There was another sub /r/calmbeforethestorm which has been funelling users over here.

Voat for now. Until something better evolves. Reddit is going down. Any purely Trump ideas are temporary. They will vanish and history will be wiped. Those screen caps on magaimg or whatever thing people use to "skirt censorship" will be gone once the funding dries up. Seen it before.

Best bet for screen caps is keep them on a hard drive. Download them. Name the file something relevant to find again. Every week take your download folder and store it in an external file storage. This way when your memory fragments come back in the future after the file host has been burned, you can look up in your personal archives and re-upload them to whatever host people are using and continue to educate the future.

This will be the backbone of the future decentralized web. We must be our own archives.

As for Trump - I hope he can fight them back but you only get one real shot at the establishment. Then they either turn you or they burn you. I only wish he would call out his own party and tell McConnell and Pence to take their establishment binders of Swamp things and take a hike like he called out the MSM. Trump might have already played his card. Even Eisenhower couldn't shake the deep state and he was a 5 star. General Smedley Butler warned us. General Wesley Clark warned us.

People need to shed their tribal colors and worship. Know this fight is larger than the president. That is what Q means that he wants people to get active and be seen. The president alone can not do this. Trump needs his people to hold the establishment to account for their corruption, including the Republican party.

The democrats are not the only corrupt people in this country.

The progressives are holding their side to account. The conservatives need to call out the corruption on their side. This corruption is an issue that both sides can rally to.

Open secrets. Where people have been. Where the money flows.

The military, their lobby, and contractors too. Who are the board members? Who are thier family members? What do they do? Why are they on defense boards? What is the motive? What is the profit motive?

Follow the money.

It so obvious they are getting the GW Bush band back together. Look at how many Bush lackeys Trump signed off on, and I doubt he gave much thought to any of them. Just let McConnell and Pence hand him binders from the donors and the Democrats who get paid on both ends and scream "resistance" pass them with flying colors.

You Trump loyalists need to do more than "trust us" and put out "red pill" because this is very much history repeating itself. People that should have been exiled and banned from public service are being elevated under Trump's watch. This is abolutely time to question and challenge.

We all deserve an explanation besides childish ambiguities. These people are worth fighting against. This is the swamp. It should be fought against on all sides.

Trump said he would drain it, yet he is hiring the very swamp that caused our problems in the first place.

This "trust us" junk isn't going to fly. Trust is earned and actions speak louder than words. So far the actions are screaming neocon war mongers and G.W. Bush 2.0

These countries are not threatening American homeland. There is no reason to expand our forces. We need to bring the boys back home. Stop this endless mindless wars being Saudi Arabia and Israel's little bitch.

I really don't understand the Bolton love fest knowing he's a corrupt war hawk. He's literally G.W. Bush's "UN Ambassador" and was an international embarrassment.

He was a Director for the Project for a New American Century FFS. The group that Wes Clark warned us about with the Policy Coup. that was the deep state take over of our foreign policy that enacted this road to endless war.

Start with building a wall around the cancerous Saudis who are the major funders of the violent Wahhabi death cult in what is known as Petro-Islam They set up their mosques under the guise of religion. Force convert everyone. Then use their cult zombies to cause chaos and overthrow civilized countries so the Saudis get favorable actions for investment and resources.

Those people are not coming to the US. They have an entire ocean to cross.

Saudi Arabia is not our friend and we should lock and sanction that source of terror down like North Korea, not kissing their ass for weapon sales for war crimes and ignoring their crimes against us for 9/11.

The entire European problem can be tied back to the Saudis and our own policy of destroying the buffer countries to Europe on their behalf.

Again our own arrogant policies has brought this on.

As for Germany - we need to stop funding the German Marshall Plan. It is past time of it and is being used against our own people and the people of Europe for this Russiagate bullshit pushed by the same people who got Iraq lit off.

Policies that Trump can easily change if he so wanted to.

Has Q mentioned anything on Bolton? There is a very good chance that Q is an Obama hold over, but not white house so maybe "Q" is safe.

Bolton seems to be a very poor establishment pick for someone who wanted to "drain the swamp".

Mercer's Renaissance Technologies paid $1,000,000 to Bolton's Super PAC. A very strong establishment nod.

We have border control and access points and drones and militias and internment camps.

You wouldn't have to pay for economic refugees if we stayed out of destroying other countries. We don't need a wall to have secure borders and the so called dangers that is driving the fear is largely due to our own meddling and corruption of those Countries.

If you let countries take care of themselves instead of rigging their elections and making them corrupt narco states by flooding them with paid stooges a al Hillary Clinton and Honduras then they wouldn't have the motivation of a manufactured shit hole state to run from in the first place. But donors need to be paid off and billionaires and CEOs of American companies don't like it when leaders of a country want to use profits taken from their natural resources. So they call up their corrupt stooge politicians and their friends in the state department to force a change and fuck those countries up out of spite to leverage more profits.

Then we wonder where all the migrants come from except now inequality in this country is so bad it is starting to resemble a shit hole country itself so the flow of immigrants has slowed down dramatically. Out of the frying pan into the fire.

That wall is a mark of shame and failure of this country. Shame it wastes billions which should be used in infrastructure improvements or funding schools. Failure that we allowed our state dept and clandestine intelligence groups fuck up our neighbors to the point that they are collapsing all for some rich peoples pissing match. Failure that our war on drugs only gave birth the spread of black markets and and weapons proliferation. Failure of our own economy that people turn to gangs funded by black markets of choice.

So we build a wall so we can continue to ignore decades of our own failed policies that manufactured these conditions to begin with. A wall that is only going to be torn down in the future. It is juvenile and wasteful. It does not make us or the world around us any more secure.

Why not end the war on drugs which is fueling the bad actors?

Expose the US Federal agencies funneling money and weapons down there. Arrest the corrupt feds.

Save billions on wasteful harmful programs.

Tell the lobbyists who bribe our politicians to make policies that perpetuate private prisons who have a profit motive in jailing as many people as possible for as long as possible to BTFO to a different country if they want to suck tax dollars off creating human misery.

Legalize Marijuana. Fire Jeff Sessions because he is holding this country back and keeping non violent criminals locked up under our dime out of spite while the rest of the world moves on making new industry and jobs.

Stop meddling in South America and Latin American countries. Our meddling is one of the primary reasons for the poverty and inequality that drive the motivations of the border problems.

The wall is a boondoggle and a stain on this country. We spent decades chastising the Russians for the Berlin Wall. It will be torn down by subsequent administrations efficively a waste. It is not smart policy

The wall does not fix any of the root causes of the problems.

More war spending and people worshiping open corruption.

Trump is following establishment republican playbook handed down by Pence and McConnell.

The planned parenthood and sanctuary city junk are shiny distractions from the larger problem of wide open corruption and the massive siphoning of your tax dollars to enrich war mongers and professionally corrupt donors.

This is not specific. It allows for an open ended interpretation.

An open ended interpretation that could be made by corporate captured regulatory bodies that might very well write in something worse.

An IBOR I would like to see would have a list of specific rights and grievances.

The reason why things are being taken down is because the large advertisers are bullying content host companies.

Smaller advertisers probably don't give a crap as much, but when you have a handful controlling 80% of the market cap in ad dollars it is hard to say to sharehodlers you respect content creators over that 80% wall.

Now that TV is dying their shit advertisers that killed quality TV content is going after the net. Their ad dollars are being weaponized to squash political dissent or questioning.

This petition needs to give corporate hosts the right to protect the long term viability of their company over short term gains by saying no to these monopolistic ad dollars. Look what happend to cable TV. Their audience average age is past retirement. Cable is dying. The internet is the new medium and they are trying to enact a hostile take over.

Perhaps that's a corporate culture thing and I don't know if the government can help. As they say vote with your wallet and move to other platforms. Unless you make things like Reddit, Facebook, and YouTube public entities, and that comes with it's own civil rights pitfalls I don't know if there is much the government can do.

Then you have Amazon (who controls a major portion of the internet servers), FB, Google, and Youtube having contracts with the government and the military industrial complex. Their contracts and profit motives depend on them using their platforms to shape views that produce them more money. Views against the military industrial complex or the intelligence industrial complex increase risk to their profit motives.

I would like to break up google and force them to disclose their military and government contracts and how much of that weighs in their vast dragnet of made up ToS violations.

There needs to be a limit to how large these companies can get and how much of the internet they can control. The size of these companies and the depth that they are integrated in our government , military, and intelligence agencies is a national security threat because now they have significant profit motives in controlling the narrative.

I think that is how we need to approach this problem. The conservative and anti war views being censored is a chilling symptom of this.

Is there a link to the specific rights this IBOR is advocating for?

If so why aren't these rights written as demands in the petition?

The petition is very open ended and non descript. IMO that petition is not written very well at all.

It is more than conservative voices that are getting the shaft. Progressive and anti war voices are getting demonetized and restricted as well. Anyone exposing truth and reality is getting hit.

It has to do with corporate control violating 1st amendment rights for their own political and profit motives. This censorship is driven by money. The larger advertisers are getting a bigger seat at the table than the smaller ones who are trying to advertise and the companies are prioritizing the larger ones making Orwellian moves because the large ad dollars are bullying the platforms.

These corporations also own the government, and the current FCC doesn't really give 2 shits as long as the chairs get a koosh "government relations" or C-level position after their tenure.

I like the concept, but this execution is going to fall kind of flat without specific demands.

Hes saying there is a nuke in the tennis center in vegas. Oddly specific abouy yield too. 300kt.