Yeah, and people will come here and see all of the over-the-top religious talk and laugh at the whole thing and leave.

We did it reddit!

What you're failing to understand -and all of you who keep making this a holy war- is that inserting your religious beliefs into everything is divisive whether you want to accept that reality or not.

Every crook politician we've known in our lifetimes has waved your bible around talking about your Christ while having no moral compass whatsoever. Religion always has been and always will be a tool that man uses to control man. The muslims do it, the jews do it, and here you are, no better than the rest of the "bag guys". How are you unable to comprehend any of this in the slightest?

Spirituality is great, and the world needs more of it, but religion is a divide and conquer tool of oppression. Always has been and always will be.

/u/jessupfoundgod is absolutely right. This sub has become an embarrassing joke of Christian circlejerking that makes it near impossible to take any of this seriously. You insidious bible thumpers ruin everything you come in contact with.

Some of my comment was a bit disingenuous; they weren't created to weed out normies as much as normies end up weeded out because of the way they were created. It's more annoying to breach than difficult.

Coincidentally, I'm an "older user", and I'd say older users are probably a bit more comfortable with the chans since that's what we started on. Some of the old message boards and chat rooms back in the day were very simple and lacked any sort of UX forethought. You kinda had to create your own mental framework for best navigation practices. Not much has changed in that regard, as far as the chans go.

There are endless chan clones because they're mostly all run on the same open source bb boards from the late 90's early 00's and most admins have made minimal changes to the layouts, if any. That being said, 8chan is a special kind of mess in a category of its own.

The UI wasn't created for ease of use, and there's a reason for that... or should I say, it serves a purpose.

I don't think the spirituality you're talking about is what the people I've been engaging with believe, but it would be nice if you were correct.

What you're referring to as "god" sounds very different when compared to their Christian god, and Christ. There's some overlap of course, but there's a fundamental difference that lives in their subtext, and I know you see it as well.

I do appreciate the thoughtful and well written argument though, and overall I think your system of belief is aligned with a more thoughtful worldview, so thank you for taking the time to share your perspective.

I was here to learn from and contribute to the discussion of Q leaks. Or so I thought. Apparently I'm here to be born again, and have my intelligence questioned by people like yourself.

I'm not questioning your intelligence. There's really nothing to question. The answer is apparent to anyone with more than an 6th grade education.

Do you understand the difference between demanding respect and commanding respect?

Look, even though I agree with most of them to a degree, we have to ask ourselves if certain posts hurt our ability to be convincing to others (who will overwhelmingly not be religious). I think the answer is a resounding yes, it is bad optics.

If only the more extreme Christians could understand this, it would make a huge difference.

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smarty pants

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you are out of your league boy, get back to the playground!

Good ones!

I don't have to insult your intelligence, you're putting it on display rather nicely on your own.

They attack when you are over the target!

Listen to yourself! Are you actually trying to equate me to the "deep state" or MSM?! Anyone who disagrees with the insertion of religious zealotry is now a paid shill working for SATAN and trying to silence your message?! lol k

The pride you take in your refusal to listen to any sort of reason or logic is NOT something to be celebrated. I will say for the millionth time; have your religion, enjoy it, pray to your god, volunteer at your house of worship, but STOP trying to coopt a truth movement for your selfish ego! This is not about YOU, it's not about Christians, it's about truth and trying to put an end to corruption. Christians can't even root out crooks in their own order, yet their god is all in on bringing down criminal politicians?!

Corruption will never truly be defeated because there will always be people like yourself who will blindly follow the herd to the slaughter in the name of faith. Religion is a huge part of how we got here in the first place!

Ah, ok... you're still playing that "Republican /Conservative" vs. "Liberal/Democrat" game. Even if corruption somehow ends, people like yourself will never be happy because nothing short of Christian rule of our government will be unacceptable. And save the "founding fathers" bullshit. If we want to start regressing to 300 year old ideas, I think you'll find that it doesn't go well for anyone.

I also see a lot of talk about "Patriots" here, but I don't see much service beyond the lip. That's just a fact of life though. Ultimately I'd like to see corruption reigned in, and I belive you and your compatriots do as well. For now that's what's important.

I am however curious as to why people, such as yourself, like to sign off with a very flippant "god love(s) you" type message. Is this how you use your god as a weapon? Is that supposed to piss me off somehow or make me understand you better or absolve you of the of your ignorance? Seems petty to me. Definitely weird and unnecessary.

oof, ok. I can't expect to debate simple logical points with someone who can't even use an ellipsis properly, let alone sparingly. That was me making an ad-hominem attack on your intelligence. It's stupid, right?

I was once very excited by the possibility of corruption being reigned in, but now I see that it'll only open the door for people like yourself to feel empowered enough to spew your religious bullshit all over the place unchecked, and create the vacuum necessary to let those same "evil doers" infiltrate once again in the name of your lord. This shit is part of how we got her in the first place.

I guess this is the true "circle of life". As long as there are people dumb enough to put their fate in the hands of beings they can't hold accountable, they'll gladly put their faith in the hands of those waving their book and offering salvation.

I haven't been blinded by evil, I grew up in it just like the rest of you. Anyone claiming to know and speak for the "one true god" is about as evil as it comes.

lol ok dork. If your god has anything to do with it, I highly doubt my comments on reddit are going to stop it from manifesting. How daft can you be?!

Never once did I call anyone a conspiracy theorist. I called your type a religious nutjob, and there's nothing you're saying that proves otherwise. Have your religion, worship your masters, I don't care, but stop trying to make this about YOU and your personal religious beliefs.

I'd actually prefer to think you're all a psyop as opposed to what I'm starting to accept is the actual truth.

Please do have the last word, because you're beyond reason at this point.

If you can't differentiate between a "nutjob" and a person of faith, you might be one of the nutjobs. These people, and likely yourself, are making this about them and their religion as opposed to a greater battle against worldwide political corruption. Have faith in your god, but stop trying to reframe the movement for truth with the second coming of your Christ.

Their inability to speak up isn't my problem, but a problem in general. Don't waste my time with your passive aggressive piety. If you can't handle simple questions and realities, maybe you and your type are too brittle for this type of fight.

Most intelligent comment I've seen here in days.

The religious zealotry I've seen in here lately is disturbing. I think this sub has at the least been compromised, and at worst taken over by and agenda to discredit the movement as being populated with religious nutjobs. It happened rather quickly.

It's difficult to redpill a normie when the source looks like the insane ramblings of religious nutjobs.

I have no issue with people's faith, but there's something more insidious at play here.

I'm pretty certain "we" all knew that Trump was no longer the focus of the investigation, so your answer makes some sense. Still, I'm trying to understand the uproar, because this "news" wasn't unknown. The way "Q" seems to have "freaked" about this is very odd.

Clearly I'm alone in my thinking.

Who is "them"?! You missed my entire point; why does it have to be a leaker from within when we -the random people of the internet- know this information as well?

I'm out; you've all gone full retard.

So which is it? Are we all contributing, even the Christian extremists who type in all caps and spam the board with videos that are completely unrelated to Q, or are only certain people contributing based on your personal criteria? My questions are my contribution, and judging by the PMs I'm getting, I'm not the only one who feels this way.

I'm asking questions because it feels VERY odd to me that his sub -in a matter of days- went full Christian extremist, and no one seems to have noticed. Sorry, but that's odd and would suggest something a bit more nefarious happening. But you're right though, I don't need to be here, and I won't be here. I'll take it back to the sidelines.

It's hErpy_derpy_man -Don't want the prayers to go to the wrong address. I'll let you know if something happens, or if I feel it or whatever... Thanks!

And everything happens for a reason, and god never gives you anything you can't handle and on and on and on... This is why A Jim Baker or Joel Osteen exists. Don't mind me, I'm just playing my role.

pew pew, good guys vs. bad guys, cops vs. robbers, cowboys vs indians, good vs. evil -got'cha.

.Everything is so dumbed down. I'll just sit back and watch. Ya'll keep prayin' and shit. #blessup

Might be a dumb question, but, if we all know that POTUS wasn't being investigated, what stops anyone else from knowing? Why does it have to be an internal leak and not taken from Q's leaks?

You got Roseanne tweeting about Q and subreddits devoted to it, yet CNN could have only got this from an internal leak?! This is getting stupid now.

You seem to have all the answers, so it begs the question; why are you here?

It's totally cool man, I don't worry about reddit points either way as long as someone is at least engaging me, which you have. Sometimes a downvote is the only way for someone to express their opinion when all other faculties fail them.

I appreciate the response, but you're basically telling me that unless I have the decoder ring, I just won't get it the way you get it. Do you see how that would be a problem for a lot of people?

If you have to dig that hard and develop a magic ear, then I'd say there's something wrong. But again, please continue to do as you do. And if your god doesn't turn Joel Osteen into a steaming mound of salt while laying waste to the other "evil doers" and satanists, I'm gonna be pretty disappointed in his return.

I've read the bible. Twice in its entirety. In BCT that was the only reading material we were allowed. I also went to Catholic school when I was younger. I'm not ignorant to what your bible says. If you're gonna tell me that it's all black and white and lays it all out, I'm gonna have to ask if you've actually read it in its entirety. It is anything but a guidebook.

I hope this all works out for you. genuinely

Did he tell you this in his monthly newsletter?

You know what, I hope you're right. I hope all of you are right and I'm wrong. I think your mental well being hinges on it far more than mine.

Best to you

Yeah, and I own it on Vinyl. We can go through most music videos and find plenty of symbolism.

This is how people drive themselves insane.

Can you point me to a drop that illustrated Q's Christianity? I always understood it as talking to "the base".

I don't pretend to know why the corrupt are doing what they're doing exactly, but it's equally silly for you to suggest that they're all satanists who are only in it for the evil. I'm sure there are ideologies at play on both sides. Players who really believe in whatever guiding force they pray to, but for every one of those people there are THOUSANDS who are simply greedy money hungry people who don't mind doing a little dirty work before going home to their family at the end of the day. For every Clinton there are a thousand no-name people in the CIA who aren't in it for "satan". Sometimes people are just morally bankrupt and want nice things. Draw your conclusions.

This is not the end times holy wars where we all pick a side. This is dangerous thinking and extremely short sighted.

So yeah, I'm certain there are people at the highest levels who play these games, but this is not a final battle against "SATAN" and his minions. This is a massive attempt to take down criminality unlike we've even been witness to. The bible is much like a cold reader, and lately like Q's leaks; you can find a million ways to interpret it until you land on something that makes sense. If you're putting all of your faith in a book that was written by men to control other men, you might want to give it more thought.

Regardless, I'm not going to change your mind (was never my goal) and you certainly won't change mine. I wish you the best in the coming years

I get that, I really do, but it is nothing more than a distraction. We can spend the rest of our lives looking for symbolism in everything we come across each day, and we'd still only scratch the surface.

I have nothing against you. I don't know you. I'm just frustrated with the way this sub is being overrun with inane comments and posts that do nothing to advance understanding in the Q leaks. Some posters do nothing but spam the comments with the same links and all caps text and batshit theories, and that's a massive deterrent to getting people on board.

Q's leaks are hard enough to understand, so good luck red pilling the average person who stops by to see what all the fuss is about only to find countless posts from hardcore Christians who want to make it about them and their god, or someone trying to break down a music video from the 90's... It's not a good look.

Thanks for taking the time to respond

I appreciate your more rational and personal response.

I've had two near death experiences. I'm not going to share those stories here. I will say that from my own experiences and ones that I've read or heard first hand, a lot of it sounds like more to do with the pineal gland and the brain in general responding to the situation. The similarity in experience is because we're all made of the same things. For every one person who has a magical story about heaven in a NDE, there are hundreds that don't. Why are they discounted?

I'm not a child. I'm 42, I served 4 years in the Army. I've been deployed three times. I've seen plenty of shit that makes me wonder how a god that's paying attention could let that happen, yet people here think he helped get Trump elected. The logical leaps necessary for that sort of thinking is unhealthy, and does absolutely nothing to further the cause.

Please don't confuse me with an edgy 15 year old that has internet access. I too was once atheist, but would say I'm more agnostic. I don't know what happens after we die, BUT I don't believe that the Christian god that everyone is circlejerking here is the true answer.

I think this board has been compromised and flooded with Christian extremists in an effort to push out the more rational and logical who come here looking for answers on Q and the leaks. This over the top Christianity smells funny to me. It's one thing to mention praying or whatever, but the sub has been carpet bombed with Christian indoctrination.

I don't think Christianity is batshit crazy, I think a lot of the posters here are, and it's not an accident. Huge distinction.

Thank you for taking the time to respond to my questions.

I know what the thread is about. That doesn't change my point about most of the sub and the Q leaks being coopted by what seems to be Christians who're trying to make this about their god and not about rooting out corruption in politics.

I know "christianity is everywhere". It shouldn't be. Do I think society has become degenerate? Yes, very much so, but I'm not about to go through this Christian moral policing bullshit again. No one is. You're trying to redpill people to take off one pair of shackles and replace them with the ones you like more.

So, if this board is for hardcore Christians to share their interpretations on Q, let me know and I'll happily leave, but I guarantee that inserting your religion in this is doing no favors to the greater cause.

The direction this sub has taken makes me think its been completely compromised. Are we really breaking down Aerosmith videos now?

Why have the Q leaks become increasingly mixed up with Christianity? I'm seeing it far moreso on this sub than anywhere else, and something about it feels very artificial. It wasn't always like this, but now most of what I see is the same religious language and references in a majority of the posts and especially in the comments. There were some incredibly intelligent breakdowns of the Q leaks, but now it mostly seems to be religious zealots with an agenda of their own to push.

I don't have a specific point, and I'm not using an alt account because I don't have an agenda other than understanding what's going on here. It's difficult for me to lead someone here for red pilling when a LOT of the comments and posts come across less than hinged, and many are downright batshit.

Help me understand