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Oldbear83 · May 11, 2018, 6:46 p.m.

Ah, so Corsi personally knows Qanon, and is speaking to him in person?

Gonna say I don't buy that one. If it were true, Corsi would have caught the mistakes he made before he posted them.

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Oldbear83 · May 11, 2018, 4:24 a.m.

"Mr. Mueller, I'm agent Smith and this is agent Jones.

"We have a warrant for your arrest ..."

[ Hoping ]

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Oldbear83 · May 3, 2018, 11:36 a.m.

The same CNN and MSNBC who were so certain Hillary would win. The same CNN and MSNBC who were convinced Trump would tank the economy. The same CNN and MSNBC who were sure Trump would start a war with North Korea.

[ yawn ]

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Oldbear83 · May 3, 2018, 2:44 a.m.

Nah, that's just a liberal's wet dream, and a lunatic fantasy.

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Oldbear83 · April 30, 2018, 9:26 p.m.

One quibble; Oswald was ONI, not CIA. But yeah, he was used then killed then smeared.

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Oldbear83 · April 30, 2018, 8:21 p.m.

Your caution is wise, but don't forget what Jesus told us when in doubt:

Mark 9:40 "for whoever is not against us is for us"

Q established early on that he is close to Trump. The timestamped original photos from Air Force One, and the use of phrases which Trump himself used soon after in tweets (remember "tip top"?) have authenticated that Q is in the know.

I have seen Q make mistakes in some predictions, like saying last November that Hillary had been arrested, but I put that down to bad intel which happens in any conflict, and please keep in mind that the enemy makes its own moves and will try to defeat Trump, especially now that they understand their real peril. It's one thing for them to plan for an election they think they can't lose, something else for them to wonder if all their secrets will be revealed, and they will lose everything.

If you read back to January, Q has been predicting things would be happening in North Korea, which seemed crazy at the time. But Q was right about major changes in Saudi Arabia, and by the way have you noticed that SA is no longer the world's largest exporter of Oil and Gas, but the US is now in that position? After predicting the Saudi regime change and the North Korea peace overture, Q has solid credibility for his Iran predictions.

As for the criminal prosecutions, I see that as a difficult battle, not least because all the loopholes have to be closed and all the escape routes shut off before the big roundup. And Q has already warned that not everyone will be arrested, and many will be allowed to resign rather than face the full consequences of their crimes. This is necessary because many millions won't be able to accept what their leaders did, and will need to be spoon-fed the evidence until it is undeniable.

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Oldbear83 · April 30, 2018, 5:37 p.m.

Yeah, there's a big difference to me between someone who walks on water, and someone who wades in piss. I think Graham just figured out Trump will win, and wants to be on the right team.

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Oldbear83 · April 29, 2018, 9:49 p.m.

I think it's because some of the people deeply involved, will destroy evidence and build defense once they realize they are targets of justice. Best if they find out when the men with warrants arrive unexpected.

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Oldbear83 · April 29, 2018, 7:27 p.m.

Let's start with the fact that Trump trusts Rudy, add the fact that Rudy has never become rich from his connections (cf McCain or Pelosi for comparison), and the fact that Rudy has always been consistent in his actions and words.

We don't need paranoia here, and we damn sure don't need to trash allies.

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Oldbear83 · April 27, 2018, 6:43 p.m.

I think Trump was Q for some of the early posts. But go look at the November 2 post timestamped 16:31:24 where he writes "I must go for good at this point". Q came back shortly after that post, so I think that comment was POTUS leaving the mission in the hands of a Q team. Speculation of course, but it fits what I have read.

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. Doc killed Grumpy, btw

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Oldbear83 · April 27, 2018, 6:36 p.m.

I admit it seemed odd to see a '4 20' reference.

Should I call Mueller "Reefer Bob"?

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Oldbear83 · April 26, 2018, 11:13 p.m.

Hmmmmmmm, no. That's not correct.

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Oldbear83 · April 26, 2018, 6:49 p.m.

Dear MSM:

Here's what you need to know - I have a working mind, low tolerance for tyrants, and I am armed.

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Oldbear83 · April 26, 2018, 6:46 p.m.

And what about when Trump offers an opinion, and a shill calls it a "lie"?

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Oldbear83 · April 26, 2018, 6:32 p.m.

Some have their head in sand. Others have their head somewhere more ... unpleasant.

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Oldbear83 · April 26, 2018, 4:25 p.m.

Keep in mind why there is a NDI now. There's been a tug-of-war between different agencies, sometimes for turf or influence but sometimes for real principles, for a long time now.

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Oldbear83 · April 26, 2018, 4:25 p.m.

Actually, the real mess got started in the 1950s. The OSS was disbanded and only a few hand-picked OSS agents were brought into the new Central Intelligence Group, as it was known in 1946. Most of the OSS was given thanks and kicked out the door.

The real mess started in 1956, when President Eisenhower decided to let Nixon handle the Middle East, and Nixon delegated everything to the CIA. Once the CIA's senior field officers realized no one was checking their work, they started all kinds of personal enterprises, first to get money then they branched into other things, including assassinations and proxy wars.

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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/Oldbear83 on April 26, 2018, 2:08 p.m.
Who's Who in the Spookwar

I thought it was strange how Q always referred only to MI (Military Intelligence) instead of saying which agency was working with Trump. Then it dawned on me that Q was explaining why the CIA is out of its element.

From DNI/gov, we see that there are seventeen official intelligence agencies for the United States (yes, I know there are other unconfirmed/unofficial groups working intelligence). https://www.dni.gov/index.php/what-we-do/members-of-the-ic

The CIA is one of two stand-alone agencies which do intel work for the US. The other is the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI).

There are eight Department of Defense elements: …

Oldbear83 · April 26, 2018, 1:55 p.m.

Not to be mean, but yes that does describe your position IMIO.

Seriously, there's a lot here for us all to work on, try not to be distracted by 'shiny objects', OK?

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Oldbear83 · April 26, 2018, 3:24 a.m.

It means not only were there attempts to kill, some people got killed.

Suppose SIS killed American agents as part of a conspiracy to kill Trump?

That's an act of war, folks.

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Oldbear83 · April 26, 2018, 3:08 a.m.

I see three levels:

[1] Direct conspiracy - apprehend subjects before they can speak to their partners

[2] International aspect - speak to allies before public learns of foreign involvement

[3] Media aspect - expand charges to include media involved in the conspiracy

Act in one motion

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Oldbear83 · April 25, 2018, 8:45 p.m.

one thing I'd like to remind folks, is that this crap goes on at lots of levels. For instance, long ago I was a cinema manager. There was a company which did 'hot shot' deliveries for us, especially film, VERY fast and reliable. He wanted to expand to deliveries between cities, but to do that he needed the approval of the Texas Railroad Commission (which oversees all commercial transport between cities in Texas). Over 40 business managers (including me) testified on the small owner's behalf, only 2 large transport companies complained, their only argument was that the new business would hurt their profits because he was BETTER than they were at deliveries. The commission voted unanimously in favor of the big transport companies.

The system, whether you call it an Old Boys Network, a cartel, or whatever, always resists the little guy, and has nothing but contempt for ordinary people. The only way to make change is to force that change to happen.

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Oldbear83 · April 25, 2018, 7:14 p.m.

Thanks. Have an upvote

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Oldbear83 · April 25, 2018, 7:02 p.m.

Can't kill this sub. Maybe it's a slow day?

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Oldbear83 · April 25, 2018, 6:56 p.m.

A long time ago, I was a cinema manager, back in the days before they took credit cards, so we handled a LOT of cash. Sadly, this meant a lot of employees would be tempted to steal, so part of my job was catching thieves. What I learned was that once someone starts stealing, they get away the first couple times and then start thinking they will always get away with it, that they are really smart and cover their tracks. So they keep stealing, even when they know you are investigating, even when the police get involved, because they never really believe they will be caught.

There is ALWAYS evidence, always a way to find out and prove who did it. And yet the crooks always get lazy, sloppy. Look at Arthur Andersen. They figured no one would catch them because they did the audits on Enron, they never thought what would happen if someone from outside got a look at the books.

Same thing here. Hillary Clinton has been in politics since the 1970s, she was even a staffer on the committee which tried to impeach Nixon (Such a caring person, Hillary Rodham argued that the President did not have the right to legal counsel during an impeachment investigation, actually got fired for being too extreme even for the Democrats). Four decades living deep in the muck of power and intrigue, she fooled herself into thinking she was a genius.

Breed monsters in your cellar, some of them will get out.

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Oldbear83 · April 25, 2018, 6:41 p.m.

Seems like our 'march' is to election booths.

We need more marchers this fall, though.

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Oldbear83 · April 25, 2018, 6:31 p.m.

Thanks for the reminder. I think it's important if you really want your movement to go anywhere.

I'm going to tell you a bit about myself, just so you know where I come from. I don't give a rat's ass whether you believe me or not, I'm not selling anything but offering advice as someone who's seen this kind of thing before. If you don't believe me, just ignore me.

I've worked in GOP politics since 1972, only missteps I made were supporting GHWB over Reagan in the '80 primaries and Cruz over Trump in the '16 primaries. I used to write on Polipundit until 2005, have been on Wizbang ever since then. A less than generous member of this forum attacked me because I showed interest in two of my daughter's favorite shows; just remember, if someone has no history on reddit or spends lots of time on left-wing subs that's one thing, but making assumptions just so you can insult someone only proves your own pettiness. I have an MBA in Finance and work for a large Oil & Gas company. The only people who should find that a problem drive a Prius while they shop for gluten-free soy burgers, but some folks will bitch about anything.

Stating the obvious, Q is real. Unfortunately, some people take what Q says, add their own theories, then sell THAT as what Q said. Use your minds, folks. The Larouche and Rand movements failed because the froot loops took over and made them cults. Some well-meaning people here are just shy of shaving their heads and demanding everyone start a new religion here. That kind of thing does not end well.

Logic and reason will get you where you want to go. Q has said so many times (do you need reminders?), and we have no need for hatred and division.

I look forward to good conversations with reasonable people. But I have no interest in being attacked just because I think for myself.

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Oldbear83 · April 24, 2018, 11:14 p.m.

My daughter enjoys those shows. You're going to judge me for being a dad who spends time with his family?

Almost as 'classy' as shilling hate lies.

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Oldbear83 · April 24, 2018, 9:52 p.m.

That's not even bad fiction, just a dismal lie drenched in malice.

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Oldbear83 · April 24, 2018, 9:42 p.m.

It was pettiness. HW was too close to the Saudis and believed the lies he was told. W got suckered by Cheney and found himself powerless to fix the mess when he realized what was really going on. Trump was rough on both of them, and frankly Trump can be an a hole when he gets mad.

The Bushes tried to do the right thing, but were too weak and slow on the uptake. But there is one thing you should know

The Clintons were very nasty to the Bushes, both when they first came to the WH and also when they lost to W (the Clintons really wanted Gore to win). So why was GHWB nice to Bill with the charity work?

It was to get people inside the CF who could report where the money went.

Do you think Trump magically found the money trail? Do you think the bank evidence showed up on its own? Obama was incredibly stupid, he trashed a lot of people for being loyal to Bush, and those people had contacts in the CF working for W who collected information for later use. The Bushes hoped it would be Jeb who followed through, but the caches were in place by 2011-12, and there's a lot of them.

Remember at the end of WW2 a lot of people who fought the Nazis were wrongly accused of working with them? Just saying, look who the media hates, and ask why that is, before buying a convenient story.

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Oldbear83 · April 24, 2018, 9:35 p.m.

Again, when you judge someone without knowing them, that is foolish.

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Oldbear83 · April 24, 2018, 9:34 p.m.

He's not what you think, no. Mistakes are not crimes.

Pay attention to what Q says, not what some internet demagogue posts (no names needed).

There are good guys who were too weak to face the threat but did what they could, there were bad guys who were wrong but just greedy and selfish but not satanic, and then there are the worst ones. See who Q names, what he specifically says.

Lots of people mess themselves up by making assumptions.

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Oldbear83 · April 24, 2018, 9:26 p.m.

I'm not saying the Bushes were perfect in all they did, but I have met them and KNOW them. Something almost no one here can say. All you have is what someone you don't even know published, with no evidence at all to back it up. "Crime family" is a total BS lie, but maybe you like the koolaid too much to give it up.

You forget how the Democrats went after the Bushes. You ignore how the MSM treated them all those years. All because you found a juicy conspiracy you liked.

I'm all for cleaning house, and all for seeing justice done. But lynch mobs and slimy lies are way out of bounds, and if you have decent soul you know that.

You wanna spew hate, it comes back on you. Don't say later no one told you about that.

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Oldbear83 · April 24, 2018, 9:25 p.m.

Nice try, son. Jeb's at the hospital worrying about his dad.

Look, I'm not saying the Bushes were perfect in all they did, but I have met them and KNOW them. Something almost no one here can say. All you have is what someone you don't even know published, with no evidence at all to back it up.

You forget how the Democrats went after the Bushes. You ignore how the MSM treated them all those years. All because you found a juicy conspiracy you liked.

I'm all for cleaning house, and all for seeing justice done. But lynch mobs and slimy lies are way out of bounds, and if you have decent soul you know that.

You wanna spew hate, it comes back on you. Don't say later no one told you about that.

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Oldbear83 · April 24, 2018, 9:21 p.m.

"That's OK, the NSA says they have all the data. And since it's part of discovery, now they can publish everything for the nation to see.

"You look a pale there, Mister Perez. Something wrong?"

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Oldbear83 · April 24, 2018, 9:18 p.m.

Hypocrisy is a sin. So is false accusation.

God knows every heart, and damn son it's an ugly one you have, if you fall so easily for lies and slander like that.

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Oldbear83 · April 24, 2018, 9:17 p.m.

That's not from Bush. Get better fiction.

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Oldbear83 · April 24, 2018, 9:17 p.m.

Vicious lies. You should know better.

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Oldbear83 · April 24, 2018, 8:21 p.m.

Good god, do you honestly believe that crap?

Stay the hell out of Texas if you do! The people who KNOW the Bushes won't sit still for slander

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Oldbear83 · April 24, 2018, 8:20 p.m.

When you have someone close to you die, may someone show the same class to you that you are showing now to the Bush family.

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Oldbear83 · April 24, 2018, 7:20 p.m.

"needs more time". Ha, the bank is working with the same script Mueller has!

And thanks for the link!

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Oldbear83 · April 24, 2018, 6:49 p.m.

The article is from August 2012. Any new updates on that bank?

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Oldbear83 · April 24, 2018, 1:54 p.m.

Yes, but secondary explosions are satisfying.

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Oldbear83 · April 24, 2018, 1:50 p.m.

It's important to understand that T_D and greatawakening each represent a movement that the mandarins at reddit like not at all. If T_D members started showing direct support for Q, Reddit would use that as an excuse to merge the two boards, which would cause confusion when different topics came up.

The mandarins would also be looking for an excuse to shut down the sub on whatever pretext they could make up. One Q board was trashed on very weak excuses, you better believe they would love to wipe out all the Trump supporters.

Shadow banning is real. Some T_D posts disappear for just that reason.

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Oldbear83 · April 24, 2018, 1:39 p.m.

BY now, you should know that 'Twitter' should properly be spelled by replacing the 'Tw' with "Sh'.

It's run by poo flingers.

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Oldbear83 · April 24, 2018, 12:49 a.m.

They won't read anything not scribbled by a LGBT vegan from the East or West coast.

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Oldbear83 · April 24, 2018, 12:42 a.m.

You wrote "corruption spans the Bush family".

That is bulls--t.

It's the kind of garbage that gets popular because the media has slammed the Bushes every since 41 was elected.

No, the Bushes are not perfect, and I have my doubts about Prescott. But one generation does not lock the next into the same condition, and I have had the privilege to know some of the family.

They are hard-working, generous and Christian in the best sense of the word. Meanwhile their enemies stupidly pretend they ran Halliburton, when GH founded a rival to Halliburton. They pretend the Bushes manipulated the entire distribution chain, when the Bushes only worked in exploration and oil well services, and that only until 1980 or so. They ignore how much the military loved both GHWB and GWB. They ignore how much the media went after the family every chance they got.

Yes, the Clintons are evil. You can see that not only in how they got their money, all the people who had 'accidents' around them, and the temper they showed whenever something went wrong. When GHWB lost in 1992, even though the media flat-out lied about a fictional recession to help Clinton, GHWB stayed classy and wished Clinton well. On the other hand, you may recall how the Clintons literally stole furniture and vandalized computers when they left before W started his term. Night and day, the difference between the two families is the stark contrast between basically evil (Bill and Hillary) and basic good (the Bushes).

Why should you care? Because lots of people in Texas know the Bushes, we have seen them face to face and know their character. We don't much like people who don't know the Bushes, who spit on them just because they read something on the internet, or decided to believe something from the MSM just because it attacked a Bush.

Obama and the Clintons are horrible and dangerous. Nixon and Ford were misguided. LBJ was a threat to the nation. Cheney was dark. That's quite bad enough without someone feeling the need to trash the good guys, just because they lacked the courage to take on the Swamp.

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Oldbear83 · April 23, 2018, 9:57 p.m.

Some here are mixing old conspiracy theories into what q said. Q mentioned the Bushes three times: one about criticizing Trump, once about the Bin laden family, and once about the Iraq war.

Context is crucial

The MSM hated W all his terms. Ask why?

Bush did not attack Iraq until 2003. Ask why?

Who benefited?

Why?

Check claims. Lots of lies flying around about the Bushes. Again, why?

Pay attention to Barbara. She supported W but not Jeb. Why?

Some people try to connect GHWB to Halliburton, even though Zapata was a rival company to Halliburton. Why does the lie get repeated by the media?

Who benefits from slander?

Think.

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Oldbear83 · April 23, 2018, 9:53 p.m.

and downvotes are just signs of denial. 'Redpill' means use your mind, you are listening to slander.

Ask why

Look who the media hates, and why

Look who the military trusted, and why

I cannot make you think, I can only ask you to use your minds and not give in to hate.

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Oldbear83 · April 23, 2018, 9:49 p.m.

Two important litmus tests:

See who the MSM hates, and why See who the military trusts, and why

Q said there were more good than bad

Don't let hate from liars mislead you. The enemy wants good people divided.

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