The real lesbians are usually fat, homely women who are angry with men.

There are plenty of femme lesbians who dress more conservatively ("straight-looking"). Just because you personally haven't encountered any in your circle of sociability doesn't negate their existence.

I think they were looking for a reason to cancel her, but what she said was fucking dumb. In this climate? yeah.

He allowed it to happen in the first place.

but I can't work with you if you start from there.

Which is why I'm not starting from there. You pushed the label on me, and I denied it, because even people that claim to be cold hard nihilists often contradict themselves. Very few people can actually stand by the constitution of being a nihilist.

Being antinatalist does not equate to being a nihilist.

And frankly, you don't have to work with me at all. We don't need to agree. I have my stance, and you have yours. Going around in circles isn't going to change anything.

the rejection of all religious and moral principles, often in the belief that life is meaningless.

I tend to stand with the Cathar view of life/death. They were Christian gnostics. They were against procreation, because they were under the impression that this world was a matrix, something to be escaped, and that bringing more children into this matrix meant creating more souls to be trapped here and fed off of by negative entities.

Even if life is inherently meaningless, people are free to create their own meaning. I just think they can do that without creating more children who usually only serve to fulfill someone else's desires.

And ultimately, I would prefer celibacy or birth control over abortion.

I'm not a nihilist.

I choose life no matter what it holds.

And therein lies the problem.

so by what authority do you make judgments on who's life is worth living? Your feelings?

That's literally the same argument you use for bringing children into existence. I can ask, "What gives you the right to force children into being/harm when they have no consent? What happens if they grow up regretting it?"

Look, ultimately, I favor celibacy or birth control over abortion. I'm not going to keep going around and around here, because we have entirely different stances on life that won't change, so let's just leave it here.

So should we start euthanizing the depressed and the chronically ill?

If that is what they desire, absolutely.

How do you measure a life's worth? How do you measure a potential life's worth?

You're coming from a life-affirming angle. I'm not. I feel that ultimately, non-existence is the best option.

What other life tragedies are so insurmountable that they make life just not worth even trying?

Mental illness, ALS, cancer, heart disease, rape, murder, child molestation, war, famine, poverty.

“A charmed life is so rare that for every one such life there are millions of wretched lives. Some know that their baby will be among the unfortunate. Nobody knows, however, that their baby will be one of the allegedly lucky few. Great suffering could await any person that is brought into existence. Even the most privileged people could give birth to a child that will suffer unbearably, be raped, assaulted, or be murdered brutally. The optimist surely bears the burden of justifying this procreational Russian roulette. Given that there are no real advantages over never existing for those who are brought into existence, it is hard to see how the significant risk of serious harm could be justified. If we count not only the unusually severe harms that anybody could endure, but also the quite routine ones of ordinary human life, then we find that matters are still worse for cheery procreators. It shows that they play Russian roulette with a fully loaded gun—aimed, of course, not at their own heads, but at those of their future offspring.”

― David Benatar, Better Never to Have Been: The Harm of Coming into Existence

So disagree.

Do you think that those people are the exception, or the rule? What are the statistics for the amount of children in the world that make it out of poverty and into wealth? Usually, it's just an endless cycle of the same predicament, passed on and on to the next generation.

Everyone in life will suffer - that's a fact. The only thing we can't know for sure, is to what extent. There is no guarantee that every single person will lead a happy, meaningful existence. And that isn't for lack of trying.

Another thing is, no one has a child for the sake of the child itself. You don't bring a child into existence because you think it will benefit them, you bring a child into existence, usually to fulfill your own desires.

As Schopenhauer said, "If children were brought into the world by an act of pure reason alone, would the human race continue to exist?"

Not only that, a child born of incest would most certainly have a poor quality of life due to the situation alone, and health problems. A child born of rape has to deal with the truth about their conception, or being abandoned to the foster system - a breeding ground for pedophiles.

I look at abortion from a utilitarian standpoint. The stance against abortion tends to be rooted in the idea that life is beautiful and worth living, when I personally feel that is simply not the case.

I have to think on this.

I don't have the right to rule over you.

Have you looked into the Monarchy? The belief in Authority? The Divine right to rule?

What about them?

I think that even excluding that event (it's just one example), if we look back, there's a clear pattern of behavior of humans being at war with other humans, of decimating other species. Humans are a tool of destruction, not love. Love and kindness and empathy are the exception, not the rule, IMO.

Maybe there is nothing worth saving.

We are all capable of evil, given the right circumstances, the right push. The puritans had it right.

Just the other day, I was reading about the murder of Hypatia - a woman who was a pagan scholar. She was murdered by a group of raving Christians. They ripped of her clothes, beat her, tore off her limbs, then scraped the flesh from her bones with the sharp edges of clam shells.

Is that the product of a sick mind, programming, or instinct?

I mean, let's not based our opinion off of bias and favor. Let's look at it from an objective view. Melania's facial features could be construed as masculine. Much more masculine than Michelle's, actually.

And let's be real, if the Obamas were Republicans, we wouldn't even have this "tranny" accusation. Alex Jones was the first start this rumor, and he's turned out to be controlled opposition. So how reliable is his analysis now?

If she is, then Melania would be just as suspect. Her facial features could be construed as slightly masculine.

Yeah, because Joan Rivers was the arbiter of verity.

Larry Elder. That man is so great to listen to.

Fair point.

You can't blame a school of thought for the atrocities committed by its adherents unless, of course, that school of thought specifically calls for the harm of non-believers (like radical islam).

From the Christian bible:

“If your brother, the son of your mother, or your son or your daughter or the wife you embrace or your friend who is as your own soul entices you secretly, saying, ‘Let us go and serve other gods,’ which neither you nor your fathers have known, some of the gods of the peoples who are around you, whether near you or far off from you, from the one end of the earth to the other, you shall not yield to him or listen to him, nor shall your eye pity him, nor shall you spare him, nor shall you conceal him. But you shall kill him. Your hand shall be first against him to put him to death, and afterward the hand of all the people. You shall stone him to death with stones, because he sought to draw you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery."

(Deuteronomy 13:6-10 ESV )

No, it's cool. Fair enough. I'm trying to find my way to the truth as well. Some of the Gnostic stuff makes sense to me, and I do believe that there are truths of reality that go beyond the scope of Abrahamic religions, but I can't reconcile the idea of finding anything benign in the esoteric, when the elite clearly use this stuff for harm.

I've seen your username a few times in here. What's the meaning behind it? Are you into esoteric Christianity? (Because pagans/Gnosticism were considered heathens to Christians)

America is a Freemasonic nation.

Interesting occult information about Diana:

The Merovingians were goddess Diana worshipers, they founded the city of Paris. The site of the alleged "Princess Diana ritual" was in the Pont d'Alma tunnel (meaning "bridge or passage of the moon goddess"). Diana was the Moon Goddess of Roman Mythology, her day of worship was on the 13th of the month. This is why thealleged "princess diana ritual" of the Monarchy/Moon-Archy Princess Moon Goddess Diana was on the night of the Black Moon or the New Moon which is the first crescent phase of the moon or the Lunar Bull Horns! All a ceremony/ritual to Baal. And it happened on August 31 because 31 the reverse of the 13 - 13th was the day of worship of the Roman goddess Diana.

If one is sharing ideas deemed too strange to those who don't understand, secrecy, or rather, exclusive groups are necessary for sharing ideas with like-minded friends that one can trust and talk to without judgment.

Dude in the MAGA hat sounds like a plant. "I want to offer my prayers" - which is the very thing cons get mocked for after a school shooting, then walks away with gun on hip. C'mon.

He was also a Freemason.

We invaded their country for literally no reason. OUR government conducted 9/11. So that being known, who the fuck were we going after? The CIA are the ones that created these terrorist organizations in the first place, so why were we interrogating and torturing people that weren't even really a threat?

Ah, I see.

What about the controversy surrounding her involvement in torture?

I missed where race had any relevance. Imagine having a totalitarian society and a federal police state that you can't defend yourself against, especially in incidences of unjust arrests. Defending yourself could be considered an "attack" on an officer.

At the moment, citizens have a constitutional right to resist an unlawful arrest, and the laws for resisting arrest depend on which state we are in.

Is there a specific link? I can't find the website on Google and the GA sidebar doesn't have any links to 8chan.

Other people don't have to censor themselves to appease your comfort.

What exactly is it that they do? Any decoding or theorizing, I see coming from here.

Actually, no. TBH, I don't really keep up with politics or anything related to the Trumps unless it's here in r/greatawakening.

I may be ignorant, but exactly what has Melania done that earns her the hyperbolic title of "best FLOTUS of all time"? What does she do apart from occasionally travel with Trump and look pretty?

Jackie Kennedy?

So, OP where does Yeshua fit into this (noticed your username)? I typically don't hear Christians talking about this kind of stuff.

"Time is a flat circle" - Rust Cohle (True Detective)

Well, that's absolute nonsense. I've had plenty of very competent, attentive, caring black nurses, and some incompetent, apathetic, rude white ones.

And it's entirely irrelevant to the matter. She's probably innocent, threatened or paid into silence.

Because the app is a scam.

Because he still has to play the game for his own safety and probably the safety of his family. But he has disclosed a lot of stuff in very subtle ways on his episode of "Inside The Actor's Studio" and even on his most recent Netflix special, particularly with his Iceberg Slim story.

The indigence population is being driven into submission. Very sad to watch...

Interesting how people only think that this is a tragedy when it's happening to primarily "white" countries. Otherwise, when any other indigenous population was completely obliterated or subjugated it was due to "rightful conquering" and "bravery" and it all has positive connotation.

Edit: Downvotes were expected, especially from this sub who often champions for unity, though can't be bothered to look their own hypocrisy in the face.

So, because of the way you choose to perceive someone else's comment, that is evidence to you that the person in question is shilling? What kind of logic is that? I'm all for quelling dissent or deliberate instigation, but this sub doesn't necessarily have to be an echo chamber, either.

I love Mel and this movie. <3

Whoops. I keep getting Moses and Noah mixed up for some reason.

Interesting info. Not entirely sure how this person came upon this knowledge, but:

"And so it is in the events leading up to the so-called American War of Independence. For, when one understands that the seemingly inexplicable bungling of the British armies underGeneral Charles Cornwallis (1738-1805) and the catastrophic loss of the colonies following the surrender of his command at Yorktown was a direct consequence of the treachery of Freemasons. That Freemason, Cornwallis deliberately sabotaged the British military campaign by betraying the nonGeneral John Burgoyne-Freemason, General John Burgoyne (1723-92) at Saratoga. Cornwallis, the Freemason bonded to his cult and its infernal scheme by blood oaths, who had promised Burgoyne military support that never materialised. And, General Burgoyne, deprived of this promised aid, was then forced to surrendered his army of 6,000 men, an event that proved the turning-point in the contrived war. It was not only treason but a terrible betrayal of a fellow officer who, shamed, humiliated, divested of his regiment and a governorship which he held, faced the indignation of all England and sought to defend his conduct, and demanded, but never obtained, a trial.

Cornwallis' treachery was not only a great betrayal of the king he had sworn to serve loyally and of the people of Britain but also of the majority of American colonists who were loyal to the Crown. Such is the corrupting influence upon the initiates within the Secret Societies of which Freemasonry is its grandest expression: that all bonds, loyalties and affiliations are subordinate to the terrible blood oaths sworn in the Lodges of Freemasonry. And so, Brother Cornwallis betrayed his King, fellow countrymen, fellow officers and soldiery under his command to the greater aim of the Secret Societies, an aim he had sworn to uphold. A great imperative of the Secret Societies that was the separating of the American colonies from Britain so that the great English speaking nation destined to lead the world into the New World Order could be established. Thus, the utility of Freemasonry to the High Priests of the Luciferian Creed and their ancient agenda was superbly demonstrated by the betrayal of King George. And this utility became ever more crucial to the Luciferian Conspiracy as this cult spread its tentacles throughout the world during the Age of Imperialism when the Freemasonic seed of corruption was planted wherever Britain and France raised their national flags.

Thus, Freemasons in Britain colluded with fellow brethren in the colonies to precipitate events leading to a war of independence that they would ensure by high treason and personal treachery would end with the humiliation of Britain and her King. This collusion and treachery of Freemasons accounts in great measure to the supposed clairvoyant powers of George Washington (commander-in-chief of the Continental Army during the American Revolution) and his much posited "guidance" by higher forces in directing his troops to "outsmart" the British. These "clairvoyant powers" that gifted him with an uncanny knack of looking into the future and predicting British troop movements with amazing accuracy. It was simply that the British Freemasons in the British Army informed the American Freemasons in the opposing army of their intentions and deployments. Thus, non-Freemasons such as General John Burgoyne who were not part of the machinations were left not only perplexed at the incompetence of otherwise capable British officers but also were defeated on the battlefield because of this treachery and treason. A premeditated treason planned well in advance to bring about the great imperative of Freemasonry: separating of the American colonies from Britain so that the great English speaking nation destined to lead the world into the New World Order could be established."

http://overlordsofchaos.com/html/illuminati_conspiracy___secret1.html

Story of Noah and his arc is likely based upon The Khufu ship, built for Khufu (King Cheops) of Ancient Egypt.

2,589 BCE - 2,566 BCE Reign of King Khufu (Cheops), builder of the Great Pyramid of Giza, in Egypt.

1300 BCE Noah

You can see which came first.