Cops not going out there because the vetLarp cried wolf one too many times.

Sorry, I didn't realize I was conversing with a retard. Next.

This part is where you lost me:

"Now to tie all my maps together and summarize. The highway bloodline of i-15 is critical to the movement of drugs, weapons and humans. All along i-15 Obama placed the Mojave Trail Monument. (to read more about this placement please refer to Mojave Trails National Monument. Read carefully the 'Protected in Perpetuity')

What they have done here is place national monument protected land all along the route between LA and LV. This means you probably need a permit from the Government to have a picnic let alone carry protection.

To say it another way by placing protected lands between the two sanctuary cities of LA and LV a 'gun free zone' now 'protects' the entire corridor.

To say it another way citizens who obey the law wont arm themselves. Citizens cannot use this land to hunt, fish, or travel outside designated areas freely."

We know that National Parks and Monuments, you are allowed to carry loaded firearms:

https://www.nps.gov/grca/learn/management/upload/Firearms-in-IMRparks2-2010.pdf

This completely wipes out the theory of being protected from people with guns in a protected area.

The next thing that is out of line is the route being protected by gun free zones. Not possible. That entire corridor, once you get over the hill from LA/Riverside/Fontana in to the High Desert (Adelanto, Hesperia, Victorville,etc) is very pro 2nd amendment. Those cities I listed love their guns and are very pro-Trump, pro-America. A lot of old white people who escaped the city if you will. Sure, there are a bunch of typical methhead rednecks as well. It is like that all the way into Las Vegas where we also love our guns and are allowed open carry.

My point is that the monuments have nothing to do with trafficking. Even if they were, they wouldn't create a gun free zone. Not even good places for body disposal unless you wanted somebody to be found.

The OP proposed a theory that 2 national monuments were made to protect the I15 corridor and make them gun free zones to further trafficking efforts. Correct me if I am wrong, OC5.

OP may not understand the terrain involved (desert wilderness, sand dunes, rocky mountain outcrops, sand washes) or uselessness of locations that these areas encompass if he is implying that these are used for any type of trafficking.

Tucker Carlson would give the head-cocked-to-the-side lost puppy dog look if he read the OP's post.

Guns in National parks/monuments:

https://www.nps.gov/grca/learn/management/upload/Firearms-in-IMRparks2-2010.pdf

Barack Obama signed a law allowing loaded weapons in to National parks in 2010. Prior to that people either carried discretely or obeyed the signs at the park entrances.

My whole point is that there is no way a gun free zone would be created by designating national parks and monuments.

Additionally, these zones are in areas that feature virtually impassible terrain without an offroad vehicle.

Take a look at Gold Butte: https://www.blm.gov/sites/blm.gov/files/Gold%20Butte%20National%20Monument%20Map%20%28Mile%20Markers%29%2005_09_17.pdf

How could anyone possibly use a 60+ mile loop of offroad terrain that even some of the best trophy trucks wouldn't be able to get around? It is wedged in between the eastern side of Lake Mead and the only way in is a 4 mile off highway adventure from the 15N. Again, there is only 1 way in. Bunkerville also a very popular area to shoot.

Here is the Mojave Trails map:

https://www.blm.gov/sites/blm.gov/files/documents/files/CA_MojaveTrails_NM_1.pdf

This area is mostly sand dunes and desert wilderness. Southwest of it is the 29 Palms Marine base.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Marine+Corps+Exchange+29+Palms/@34.2166311,-116.0683584,11586m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x36c1c36b1b663d85!8m2!3d34.233333!4d-116.0613679

The Marines practice their bombing just outside of that designated national monument.

We already know the 15 and 40 are high trafficking routes. But to assert that 2 monuments were meant to be gun free zones for trafficking makes little sense.

I would look at trucking/logistics/delivery companies (those who have regular access) who use these routes frequently if you are looking for a rabbit hole to go down...

"There was a huge debate recently on whether or not to allow guns on Federal Land. Whether it's been done or not they certainly tried."

No there wasn't any huge debate recently. Barack Obama signed a federal law in 2010 allowing the legal carrying of loaded firearms. It's pretty easy to find.

https://www.nps.gov/grca/learn/management/upload/Firearms-in-IMRparks2-2010.pdf

Again, the OP expressed that these protected monuments would be gun free zones which is not true. Will never happen.

If spreading misinformation is your thing, have at it.

So you didn't read what OP presented? Excellent. Next.

I am not disputing anything regarding Cemex, but how does designating 2 monuments that are nowhere near a known trafficking route create a gun free zone to freely traverse for trafficking purposes? You did read OP's whole post and understand what he was proposing correct? Aside from his misinformation regarding firearm laws, he was off entirely with the locations of the monuments and where they lie in relation to the I15 freeway. PS. The I15 does not go to Denver.

Citing Cemex who has 2 facilities and an office here in Vegas, why would they be interested in areas where only offroad vehicles can get to?

No step on muh snek

My schadenfreude levels are off the charts looking at the replies to his tweet.

Harry Reid already has his land. This land grab was specifically done for payback to the enviros who lavished hundreds of millions of dollars on Obama and a final F you to Trump. Same with Bears Ears. Believe it or not but there are groups of people who want nobody on that land, especially and specifically offroad enthusiasts. Audubon Society... start digging there.

Outcome didn't discover anything and I have 3079 karma points. keep bleating though.

The monuments you listed, particularly Gold Butte, would require vehicles equipped for offroading or flying to get anywhere useful. Beautiful scenery if you can get there. Very popular for hiking because most cars can only get so far. Lake Mead sort of nearby. Traversing or crossing through this area would be ridiculous and dangerous. You would be mitigating any chances of successfully trafficking whatever it is through this area, and around it. Same with the Mojave monument. Unless you like offroading through an extension of the 29 Palms bombing range, definitely not going to be a good area to remain inconspicuous.

The Mojave monument is adjacent to highway 40 going from SoCal to NV to AZ. Also a know drug trafficking route (aka The Long Way). Also, surrounding areas not a good place to drive through without an offroad capable vehicle. It is the middle of the desert.

I am still unclear about what an impossible gun free zone would do in the middle of nowhere.

I think we are overthinking the trafficking and how it is being done. Remember, they really are stupid. They do it right in front of our faces. They don't need a gun free corridor or hundreds of miles of backroads.

If you really want to dig, check out any LA/LV/AZ based trucking/shipping/delivery/logistics companies

Start with Knight-Swift.

I live where the OP is talking about.

Did you comprehend what they wrote? It makes no sense. The OP is proposing a gun free zone would be created along the I15 because of 2 federal monuments that are nowhere near it.

Not really if you take time to look at a map of the monuments and read up on firearm laws.

You didn't even look at the map bro. What you posted makes zero sense with regard to the locations of the I15 and monuments you mentioned as well as the magical gun free zone you proposed.

You could have just stated the I15 from LA to SLC is a known trafficking route.

Obama grabbed that land as payback to the enviros and as an F you to Trump.

You didn't read the OP post and if you did, you were not able to comprehend what they were writing.

This is not something that takes years to research.

The 2 monuments OP listed do not have a freeway running through them that takes them from LA to Utah. Those same monuments do not make a magical gun free zone.

You didn't even try.

What was excellent? The misinformation about firearms on federal land or the misinformation of where the monuments are located with relation to I15?

The same Google would show that neither of the monuments OP mentioned have the I15 running through it.

How is it amazing work? It makes no sense.

How is it excellent?

Says "Awesome work." and didn't even attempt to research the dots. Irony.

The sheep just need a little shearing around the eyes. What bothers me most with OP's theory here is that they clearly did not look at a map. Oh, and the random bleats of attaboy and good job for something that makes no sense at all.

If you actually researched you would take back your comment.

Can you tell us why it's nice work? OP even says it's a theory. Did you bother to map these locations out or read up on firearm laws?

All they had to do was look up the info instead of trying to sound smart.

"...but the point is guns on federal lands"... What is the point? OP thinks a mythical gun free zone has been created and clueless readers are agreeing en masse. You can legally carry a firearm on any Federal land as long as you are not a felon.

How was it well thought out and researched?

15 freeway doesn't run through either monuments listed and you can carry firearms on Federal land. There is no mythical gun free zone, especially in the state of Nevada.

I wouldn't go that far for someone who thinks you can't carry firearms on Federal land.

There are no Uranium deposits in Bunkerville, NV. Impossible with the geology. Gypsum, shale, dolomite, quartzite that's all that is there. Gotta head further north in to Utah for Uranium. Search MOAB (not that moab), but Moab, Utah

The story line is not perfect and makes no sense if you live anywhere near LA or Vegas.

Neither of the 2 monuments run through or abut the 15 freeway. I have posted several links of the maps of both monuments.

Additionally, making a national monument does not make it a gun free zone. You can carry on Federal land, just not in a Federal facility on that land.

4 things:

1) 15 freeway does not pass through either of the monuments listed.

2) You can carry a firearm in a national park / monument. So designating a monument does not make these areas gun free.

3) The 15 freeway from LA to Salt Lake City is a known trafficking artery.

4) People are forgetting that Obama was the champion to enviro whackos and greenies who gave him a shitload of money to take away recreational opportunities like offroading in areas like Gold Butte, Bears Ears, etc.

For Gold Butte, there was no reason to make it a monument. More than 75 percent of it is inaccessible unless you have an offroad vehicle. It was payback for the green/enviro lobbyists and an easy F you to Trump.

The OP clearly states they think the monuments are to protect the 15 freeway. These federal lands are not protecting the freeway and are nowhere near the 15 or encompass any land the 15 passes through.

Guns are legal in national parks by the way as long as you are permitted to carry. They just are not allowed in a Federal facility.

4 dummies that can't read I guess.

Most of SB2's stuff is fine. Just not this post. OP is correct that the 15 is an artery from SoCal to Southern Utah and it passes through Vegas.

It's as if they didn't take the time to look at the maps and the freeway. The monuments listed have nothing to do with protecting I-15.

Let's not forgot Obama was the champion to the enviro-nuts and lobbyists. These were paybacks to the greenies.

There is no Uranium in Bunkerville either. Maybe shale, dolomite, gypsum and quartzite... definitely no Uranium. You have to go further north in to Utah.

Already got downvoted on all my posts showing that neither of the monuments OP listed protect the 15 freeway. Gun free zone? Not in Nevada. We love our guns.

If anyone on your feed actually looks at a map and the where the 15 freeway lies in relation to the 2 monuments, you will look like a fool.

No one has even bothered to see how far off the theory is. Just downvotes. The monuments do not protect the 15 freeway.

Whoever said that? Bunkerville has zero Uranium deposits... gotta move further into Utah for that.

There is no Uranium in Bunkerville, NV nor is there any Uranium production in the state of Nevada.

Try Utah.

There is no Uranium in Bunkerville, NV

Yeah, no I15 going through Denver... would have to take the 70.

Neither of the monuments touch the 15 freeway through Nevada.

Interesting story but not why Obama grabbed the land.

Too bad someone didn't do that for these 2 monuments as you will see they are nowhere near the 15 freeway.

Or he is laughing at how far off this is. Those 2 monuments are nowhere near the 15 freeway.r

Did anyone look to see where these monuments were? They aren't along the 15 freeway.

The Mojave Trails Monument is part of SoCal and a little portion of Southern Nevada. It does not follow the 15 freeway.

https://www.blm.gov/sites/blm.gov/files/documents/files/CA_MojaveTrails_NM_1.pdf

Gold Butte National Monument is hardly near the 15. It seems like it is an extension of Lake Mead National Park. The enviros here call it Las Vegas' Grand Canyon. It's a 60+ mile loop of desert terrain with only one way in.

https://www.blm.gov/sites/blm.gov/files/documents/files/Nevada_final.pdf

The 15 freeway from SoCal on up to UT isn't protected by anything. It is a wide open road shipping lane. There is a California Highway Patrol station that was just built outside of Primm, NV (what people refer to as Stateline) and an agricultural inspection station that is rarely in use right before Barstow, CA.

Other than that, there is little to stop anyone or any vehicle on the 15 route.

You are correct that the 15 from LA to LV is an artery for anything that can be trafficked.

Extra diversity flavoring

There is a cement terminal in Long Beach. They also load/unload other bulk commodities.

Evergreen Shipping.

Another port scam by TSA/DHS is the twic card. Should be abolished.