Most anti-Jew fags reject Paul's writings too.
Hopefully not too many Christians will bite on that phony shill hook.
There is the book of Revelation and then there is the super abundance of nonsense that comes from within the readers minds.
The book itself is quite simple in its presentation. It is the promise of the end of sin, evil, death and the devil and his messengers. The essence of our Christian HOPE. This Christian HOPE is a threat to no human being. They all might have the same hope if they thought about it.
Rev: 5:13-14
13 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.
14 And the four beasts said, Amen. And the four and twenty elders fell down and worshipped him that liveth for ever and ever.
That being said, the devil and his messengers will have that fear and the reality of the threats contained therein.
The interesting parts come into play when the readers realize these parties, man and devil, are currently standing in the same set of shoes.
Hence, the ultimate theme/meme of DIVISION. Which Jesus also stated many times, quite clearly:
Matthew 10:34
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Luke 14:26
If any man come to me, AND HATE NOT his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and HIS OWN LIFE also, he cannot be my disciple.
When we understand the premise that the scriptures are structured upon, that there are 3 principals involved with every line of text, God, man and devils, the latter two in the same set of shoes, it's much easier to understand:
Mark 4:
13 And he said unto them, Know ye not this parable? and how then will ye know all parables?
14 The sower soweth the word.
15 And these are they by the way side, where the word is sown; but when they have heard, Satan cometh immediately, and taketh away the word that was sown in their hearts.
To understand all parables (and allegories) the above principle must be kept in mind. Satan is in the hearts of mankind. This means scripture speaks to 2 parties IN MAN, simultaneously.
One, the person, Gods child, God is for and in behalf of. The other, Satan, God is against.
These two actions of God, being for and against are simultaneous, constant and consistent.
Just as Jesus looked at Peter and spoke to Satan or Satan entering Judas, Jesus was for Peter and against Satan, simultaneously. Same with Judas, against Satan, for Judas.
Paul said the same things about himself.
Tribulation and anguish is promised upon all who "do evil."
Romans 2:
9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;
Yet Paul himself admits to doing evil, not did, past tense, "do" present tense:
Romans 7:
19 For the good that I would I do not: but the EVIL which I would not, THAT I DO.
Paul understood perfectly, what Mark 4:15 meant for himself, personally. That it was not "just him" as in individual involved. It was the working of evil within, in his own mind, that God was and is against. Romans 7:7-13, Romans 7:21. Paul even pinpoints this working to a messenger of Satan in his own flesh. 2 Cor. 12:7, and terms this "state of being" as WEAKNESS imposed upon him.
Yet, in understanding, he knows the power of God is also upon him, as it can not be from himself, because there is no him"self." There is him, the child of God, and the resistance movement courtesy of the devil and his messengers.
All the stuff about Q and Trump and the pursuit of the eradication of evil is great. But it is only a PREAMBLE to the real show, which Revelations promises.
Q and Trump can not get at the real internal problem. God in Christ can. And does so first by ILLUMINATION, shedding His Light on the "internal" facts, as scriptures present them, including in Revelation.
When Jesus addresses the 7 Churches, He also addresses the works of the devil, Satan, in them ALL. And thereby proves the authenticity of His Own Statements in Mark 4:13-15 and other places.
The foundation of Christianity and the New Testament was built firmly on O.T. scriptures that were given and held by Israelites as delivered by the prophets through the Spirit of Christ speaking through them.
I have no interests in the Essene version. It attributes to Jesus for example what was written by Paul. Clearly an "after market" product. Largely the produce of a one man show, E. Szekely.
That being said, I believe the Bible presents that all mankind are/will be saved in any case, no matter what they believe. Some might see this now, in this present life, better than others.
Some may not see at all.
Such is life in our mutual present and various forms of internal darkness, imposed upon us all.
It's God in Christ's Choice who sees and who doesn't and to what extent, if any. Some are led to seek, some find, most could care less. But in the end it all serves Gods Purposes, regardless. Kinda pointless to see otherwise, as a believer.
It's good to keep in mind a major premise of the Bible, and how the Words of God are constructed and directed.
Whether readers believe it, see it or not, the scriptures present that mankind and devilkind are presently "overlapped." Two separate and distinct parties in one pair of shoes. This is the construct that scriptures present to us.
Man shall live by every Word of God. Matt. 4:4, Luke 4:4
Devils won't. Matt. 23:43
There is a two fold cadence involved. What applies to man does not apply to devils and vice versa. Understand this and some will hear better. And the same some will also have their own internal resistance that is not them, also resisting every Word.
It's an interesting challenge, to hear and understand.
Matt. 23:33.
(You)Also how do you square "whosoever believeth in me shall be saved" with "anyone can believe whatever they want and be saved". [/quote]
Scripturally the subject of all "mankind" being saved, eventually, has many citings. There is a common fallacy that someone has to "validate" or "make a decision" in order for Jesus to be an effective Savior. Otherwise, presumably, the God of all creation is effectively neutered and of no effect other than God being then forced by lack of affirmative decisions by the person to burn people alive forever in fire and torment. I might term that a concoction of manipulating authorities trying to scare and fear monger the flocks into submission.
1 John 4:7 makes it abundantly clear who knows God and is born of God.
"Dear friends, let us love one another, for love comes from God.
Everyone who loves has been born of God and knows God."
It is disingenuous pseudo religious authorities that draw a false difference between God and Love. I don't blame the people promoting it. It's actually a working of Satan in their hearts that is NOT of the person, the child of God. These promoters are themselves, blinded internally.
In reality there is not one single scripture in the entire Bible that states any named person is now or will be in eternal firey torment NOR is there a single scripture in the entire Bible where any named person is even threatened with such a fate.
Additionally, if we pay attentions to the construct of man that scriptures present, there is more than just the person who is involved. Satan, the devil, the god of this world is also involved in every lie and deception working "within" the person. So who we gonna blame? Just the person? Or do we understand the scriptural presentation of the construct of man a look to the correct culprit? And see that there is the person and the CAPTOR of them?
There is more than can be said, but as an example, in Romans 11:26-30 we are advised that all of Israel shall be saved, even those who "are" present tense, enemies of the Gospel. Scriptures do not preclude salvation post death and in fact it is a required understanding to see how Romans 11:26-30 can be truthful to the scriptures.
Scripture also presents that when people die they are "released" from sin. Romans 6:7. Sin is also "of the devil." 1 John 3:8. Mark 4:15 (and other seed parables) show sin transpiring in people that is not the sin of the person, but of the devil who steals (a sin) from them, internally. The god of this world also "blinds minds" to the Good News. Acts 26:18, 2 Cor. 3:14 2 Cor. 4:4. I would expect, once released from mind captivity at death, an affirmative salvation would be the only avenue available to the persons. Should be a no brainer.
(You)The first post you say "all mankind will be saved regardless of what they believe" and the second post you say "well there are men and devils and devils won't be saved." I really don't like people like you who always seem to like putting mud in the waters. [/quote]
It doesn't matter to me if you think God in Christ saving all people is a problem. I don't see it that way, from the scriptures.
1 Timothy 4:10
For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, WHO IS THE SAVIOUR OF ALL MEN, specially of those that believe.
(You)It seems that you are the one resisting the word at this point. Your next post should be very clear or I'll know who you are at that point.[/quote]
Obviously you may have a problematic situation on your hands in trying to see and understand that mankind is not just mankind in the scriptures. I know when I share the Gospel, there is more than just "YOU" involved. There is also a resistor, a captor that is not "YOU." And theoretically that side of the equations party(s) will fight to hold its present prey.
Maybe you'll see better, another day.
It's mandatory understanding to have a "shill" for eternal torment and fire judgments that is NOT MAN in order to love our neighbors as ourselves. We just have to understand how we are all put together, presently.
The wheat and the tare grow in the same ground. Matt. 13:26, Matt. 13:30
I have no issues with eternal hell and torment. Just not for mankind, but devils.