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>“Man can do what God cannot, namely manipulate others for their own salvation.”

Factual error my friend. Chooses the elect and gives them to Christ who holds onto them and raises them up on the last day. By works is no flesh saved but by faith. Faith that God gives and takes the scales off of the elects eyes. Salvation is exactly a work of God. There by he is manipulating others for their own salvation ie the elect.

Some good stuff here, very true but realize the reason Satan ALWAYS looses is because God Controls all in his Creation. The Creator controls the created.