Ron just announced Lolis are banned following talking to a lawyer
>>>/v/16923828
>>>/v/16923830
first and foremost, if you want to post loli I won't stop you; if that means I get removed as BO then so be it
asking a lawyer was a really dumb move, of course loli is illegal; it's a jury of 12 people who made the decision that the lawyer reported to Ron - put one woman or one father on that jury and it's guaranteed a guilty verdict. it'll likely remain this way until a supreme court decision (good luck getting that). as it stands "in the real world", loli is in a grey zone. you won't get convicted just for loli, but if you get caught for other crimes, they sure won't hesitate to throw it on the stack of charges to put you away for longer and make their case easier to sell to the jury. just like people don't get put away for smoking weed alone, it's pretty much always something else they were doing at the time and they just happened to be smoking weed as well which gets the book thrown at them.
two final friendly reminders, it's easy to be tough and defend lolis when you're anonymous, but Jim and Ron's identities are already public. 8kun is still on thin ice and I believe ron asked for another week to bring back some loli board (?) as he acquires some more servers for hosting stability. thus, perhaps it is worth cutting them some slack for at least the week they requested before going nuclear.
>perhaps it is worth cutting them some slack for at least the week they requested
They've had at least 6 months to speak. They were practically silent since launch. It took Mark (the only one doing PR for them) flipping shit after months of defending them before they finally came out to talk. Our patience has its limits, you know. Not to mention that requested period was for bringing back a loli porn board, which they just declared is banned.
>and I believe ron asked for another week to bring back some loli board (?) as he acquires some more servers for hosting stability.
His original deadline was April 26, however, he's made it official on the noticeboard with the statement:
>What I want is free speech within the boundaries of the law. As it is, obscene material is not protected speech under the First Amendment. That may change in the future as the so-called "community standards" become less strict. However, this is the hand we've been dealt.
>As such, any user who posts obscene visual representations or obscene visual depictions of children will be banned permanently and the content will be deleted. Until further notice, that is how all volunteers, global and local, will be instructed to handle such content.
I'm sorry oji-san, but from where things have been going at this rate i wouldn't trust Jim the pig farmer more than Kikewheels. It's sad that we have to leave this place, but the old 8chan is already gone at this point. Pack up your bags lads, we're going back to the bunker.
Give them an inch and they'll take a mile. Jim's goal is to make buck off Qboomers, so he could ban musclegirls and futa if he wanted to.
The sticky was probably deleted because it was calling out ron and jim, and Tangerine telling ron to delete his vol account out of protest, not just because there was loli... probably. There was no mention of saying DELTE THIS STICKY RON, but its what happened. That said, globals have been deleting loli posts, so its a sign of the times.
You know what. Good on you for remaining positive, but let's get something clear, like the other replies are telling you. The site is fubar'd. This loli ban is just Jim fucking the corpse he, C0DEmonkey, Kikewheels, Josh, Mark, and the like have all created. Cutting slack? That's what we have been doing the past two years, Turkroach's modding, the botched takeback of /pol/ by C0DEmonkey and globohomo /vols/ leaving it an empty shell, the handling of /int/, the over reliance on Cloudflare despite every savvy tech user's warnings and with what happened with Gab, the April Fool's 2019 hacks, the Infinity Next debacle, the stupid acknowledgement of that subpoena, the merchandise at 8kunt's launch, the constant delays and lack of transparency, the evil way Jim acquired 8chan in the first place. Fuck, there were other issues besides the big boards. /Christian/ used be in the top 10 until those fucking Vatican cock suckers took over and destroyed the board with their insane modding. And who here remembers when /sp/orts was around and doing cool stuff? Fuck Jim and co, and don't talk about giving credit when we can't even give an ounce of patience that should have ran out a year ago.
I wish you the best of luck mate if you try keeping a board here. You have brought some good times and have been a decent mod, but just acknowledge what is happening. 8chan is dead. Jim is a fag. It's time to let go.
PS. Say goodby to /mg/ and the old archives of /monster/ with this new rule.
Webring Exodus
>/v/
https://fatchan.org/v/catalog.html
>/animu/
https://prolikewoah.com/animu/catalog.html
>/jp/
https://prolikewoah.com/japan/catalog.html
>/monster/
https://smuglo.li/monster/catalog.html
>/u/
https://smuglo.li/yuri/catalog.html
>/d/
https://prolikewoah.com/d/catalog.html
>/m/
https://prolikewoah.com/mecha/catalog.html
Does anyone feel like this has a lot of over-reactive drama-fags throwing a fit and outside actors lying and exaggerating wanting their boards to flourish by poaching users? It was similar when news of Mark came out that I'm not sure amounted to much besides people having their bunkers on standby again. The site being unpostable for a day was more harmful to it than anything else.
No final decision seems to have been reached yet and Ron still seems open to dialogue about changing his mind.
If that wasn't the case,he wouldn't have took to asking that fag Rikieta, with full disclosure who is more of a celebrity rather than a competent lawyer about things on Twitter. Anons can easily talk about lawyer-fagging, but when hosting a site already under public and private scrutiny, it's very easy to take them to court when obvious laws are broken. Then again actions speak louder than words, if a shitfit like this wasn't thrown Ron might not have changed his mind. My impression was Ron was initially looking for ironclad legal proof to host loli with no issue and tell Jim/boomers to fuck off, anyone looking to take it down due to "legal concerns" being directed to it, unfortunately he didn't get that.
The flowchart is still flawed as shit and already seems to be abused by global staff taking rules more literally/seriously than intended, like when the site first came back. Ron said he set himself two weeks to unfuck his shit and/or bring back /delicious/, and there are still 5 days left until 27 of the month from where I'm from.
>it's easy to be tough and defend lolis when you're anonymous, but Jim and Ron's identities are already public
That's a good point, >>955175 , >>955177 also make good points.
We'll see what the other lawyer says and what Ron ultimately decides to do, the future of the site hangs on a thin thread. Guess i'll have to get used to the webring.
I'm not worried about the loli so much as the precedent it might set.I mean the ban isn't quite real since /rule34/ is still up and that one has a shit load of ss/loli,even if western.
Anons like to talk shit, but they forget the amount of moving and independent parts when having a website. Domain names being kept, Servers that have a right to refuse doing business etc.As we've seen before and rather recently, any one of these failing can make setting up or running a site a major pain in the dick. Who knows about the law "not being actively enforced" ambiguous wording like that will just allow them to make a special cases with enough noise around it.
I even wonder if the current service provider will drop the site if the human garbage tries to drop down on the site long enough drawing unwanted attention to even them.For anyone outside the site, taking this place and any site affiliated with it bearing the fullchan banners with any sort of pride down is just easy brownie points.
It's not over yet, but it very well could be if we allow it to happen. Abandoning now would undermine a lot of what the site stood for and that we stuck until now.
It's easy to point to alternatives now because they haven't been really tested,but if they draw enough crowds and shit gets rough, their mettle will be truly tested.For as much shit they gave Mark thinking of selling Gondola merch, Julay fags are already sellign /cow/shit merch.Who's to say the rest of the webring won't fold when push comes to shove.
>Domain names being kept, Servers that have a right to refuse doing business etc.
There's plenty of server providers and even registrars that really, really couldn't give less of a shit. Hacking sites are still up, outright child porn sites, etc. There's Russian guys that that drive Lamborghinis solely through providing hosting services specifically to very, very illegal content and they're never gonna get taken down because Russian police is so corrupt. Jim lives in the Phillipines. How much do you think it costs for police to ignore you in a country where the median income is 6500 bucks a year?
Worst comes to worst, there's 08chan that has exactly none of these problems and is 100% secure if you use TOR.
This site has stood for freedom, and freedom is more important than any one site. 8kun without freedom is entirely pointless.
It's all about the attention anon, if media make a fuss, authorities or businesses worth their salt won't really have a choice overlooking it. And the domain name is in russia,I think. We're posting in a site hosted somewhere in America with a Russian domain name, if I remember correctly.
They can't feign negligence if shit's right in front of their door. 8chan in the mainstream culture,that bleeds into government and business, is a pariah,much more so than before.
>It's easy to point to alternatives now because they haven't been really tested
Anons tend to ignore that so much, sure it's easier to post in that place any other imageboard they're shilling as alternative, there's less spam, comfier community, etc, but they forget that that's only the case because those are extremely small communities that everyone ignores.
I don't think there's a place for a true 8chan anymore, or maybe i'm just too niggerpilled.
>I don't think there's a place for a true 8chan anymore
Maybe, but there are still worthwhile things in here.I even have the vain hope this may serve as a beacon to lost anons to come back to, or even join us.
Even a shred of what we used to have would be better than any other site and the webring just felt like a poor replacement in the population once the split happened.
Free speech is banned literally everywhere. Where the fuck is anyone supposed to go now? Zoomers are being raised never knowing what it's like to be able to chat shit and have a genuine conversation. They're too afraid to say anything irl and now online environments are destroyed too. Just what the hell is the future going to look like? I'm sure people from 100 years ago would look at even now and throw up on the spot. What's it gonna feel like when we're surrounded completely by people who can't even comprehend the concept of having your own opinions both on and offline?
In 2020 real kids are made to dress in drag and have money thrown at them,pedowood still grooming and assaulting underages.
Underages are allowed to do suggestive scenes in movies and art
Yet lines on a paper are considered a great sin that must be purged
Hey buddy i think you got the wrong door, The maid bunker is 2 blocks down h ttps://smuglo.li/a/
Now that's out of the way, let me re-cap on what happened to /a/ ever since ~~8chan~~ 8kun came back online.
>8kun came back a few months ago
>Almost all other boards came back in good shape the same cannot be said about the userbase
>/a/ decides to just stay in their smugbunker honestly a good call in hindsight
<8kun's /a/ is empty and filled with /a/ squatters
>Seeing /a/ isn't used as a board, Ron put up a claim to /a/, unbeknownst to them.
>/animu/'s BO jumped at the call and took over /a/
<This also wiped off /a/'s slate clean, but still keeping the post count
>m/a/idos threw a shit fit for a while before deciding to cut all ties to 8kun again, a good call in hindsight
>YOU ARE NOW HERE
>Userbase split is imminent, since Ron is going to ban lolis. Alot of alternatives popped up, but almost all userbase agrees that we should stay in the webring
Don't go to 9chan since Jewsh made it, Cripplekike shilled it, and Cuckchan overran it. The near perfect cancer trifecta
WHAT
FUCFK
THAT CANNOT BE TRUE
Wait a minute...
>>/a/ decides to just stay in their smugbunker honestly a good call in hindsight
>>m/a/idos threw a shit fit for a while before deciding to cut all ties to 8kun again, a good call in hindsight
Why would the m/a/ids throw a fit about 8/a/ if they decided to stay in the bunker?
There's more than that. Of 8kunt's major (former) boards, there is also:
>/tv/
https://tvch.moe/tv/catalog.html
>/tg/
https://smuglo.li/tg/catalog.html
>/hgg/
https://julay.world/hgg/catalog.html
>/sp/
https://sportschan.org/sp/catalog.html
>/cow/
https://julay.world/cow/catalog.html
>/a/
https://smuglo.li/a/catalog.html ]wwwwwwwww****
There's also a bunch of new boards that never existed here.
Meidos are shit and /a/ was shit. Claiming this place was a victory.
Plus, now we can try to migrate and keep the community on 1-2 websites.
9chan is out because of Josh
Fatchan has been gaining support
New 8chan is associated with Acidman and Mark but overall sounds the most promising. We'll see when it launches if it falls flat on its face.
Most of the other alternatives are pretty shit. Julay sucks. smugloli is overrun with meido faggots. Webring isn't the worst idea but it's a mess in practice.
I'm trying to be optimistic that, as much as Acidman and Mark have been fags over the years, they're still closer to members of the community than admins like Jim/Ron or Moot ever were. And if they had an issue with being associated with manifestos and the like, as Hotwheels is, then I doubt they'd be trying to do this and take on the liability themselves.
The webring is like 200 Julay bunkers and then a couple major offshoots. vch was just v. Gahoole's /tv/ is a shithole and possibly the only BO I look forward to disappearing after all of this is over (alongside Head Meido). Besides /cow/ I see no reason to visit Julay; it's a bunch of Kiwi Farms faggots.
That and the incongruous rules and board software led to all kinds of issues. Lynxchan isn't great but it was the easiest to put up quickly.
Ultimately, a planned transition has never worked. All of us are only here because this was where the GamerGate bunker was when the threads got banned. There was no central bunker when Loli got banned, so now here we are.
I just hope we can convince most BOs to be on one or two websites with a couple outlying backups/bunkers in place.
Having it be decentralized is the real benefit but you lose the crossover of communities that made halfchan so fun back in the day.
>I'm trying to be optimistic that, as much as Acidman and Mark have been fags over the years, they're still closer to members of the community than admins like Jim/Ron or Moot ever were.
Mark mentioned in a gamergays thread while shilling his new /v/ that he will just be /v/'s BO and not involved with the site administration.
Acid also mentioned that the whole project isn't originally his idea and that he is mostly cooperating with someone in making the site.
Both of this could be good or bad from the way you look at it, guess we will see by the weekend how it pans out.
>Acidman
I don't really know the guy, but from what i've heard his site sounds the most promising.
>crossover of communities that made halfchan so fun back in the day.
And 8chan even more, the autism wars between /sp/ and /int/ were fucking amazing, which is why we need a centralized site to gather in, with the caveat of always having a decent bunker just in case.
Agreed. I mostly just want to avoid shit where BOs try to use "ancestral rivalries" for refusing to go to the same site as another community.
I'm 99% sure it all comes down to where they can get BO at. Why recommend your audience go to a different BO?
But "we don't want your autism on our site" has been used as an excuse before and it will be again.
But it's basically like parents getting a divorce: anons are the real losers when no effort is made to communicate and work out solutions.
It's weird to think that global admins and local board volunteers used to be the standard. We've had some shit BOs over the years but also a few solid ones and it's been to the strength of the site overall. It just produces complications during times like this.
I'm hoping that the new site has an agreement in place that lets BOs collaborate a little more and have some say in the site's management. Hopefully to give them incentive to stick around and not bail for a bunker the moment another board pisses them off.
>Acidman
As far as he goes, I was busy a few years ago when the GG threads stopped liking him and basically every other e-celeb from that time. I think he used to be friends with Drybones and Moltar, who I had some contact with and who never did wrong by me.
If there really is a third-party behind the scenes then I'm curious as to who it is and what their intentions are.
If we learn anything from this, it should be to never again put all our eggs in one basket. One central admin, one central owner/host, one central system.
Ron unironically could be halfway decent if he didn't have Jim mandating this place chase boomers and run out the loli, and I get the sense that he's frustrated and knows what the issues are but can't do anything about it.
But that doesn't change the reality that having one guy, whether is be a sell-out like Moot or Hotwheels or someone so out-of-the-loop they can't relate to the community like Jim, be in charge of the whole site?
That's a ticking time bomb.
And I don't think bunkers run by a single BO are any different in that regard.
>BOs try to use "ancestral rivalries" for refusing to go to the same site as another community.
Which is pretty retarded as a true 8chan successor would have space for everybody, as the original did to an extent, for me that's part of the fun, sure i don't want a literal reddit offshoot or anything like that but neither do i want all discussion to be just "outnazing" the previous poster.
>But it's basically like parents getting a divorce
Absolutely true, but don't forget basic tribalism, it can make a fractured community impossible to reunite hence why i've always been wary of this situation coupled with the previous one.
>Drybones and Moltar,
No idea either, i've never been too much into BO and vol drama until recently.
>Ron unironically could be halfway decent
This too, maybe i'm a fag but i'm rather sympathetic to him, it can't be easy having to maintain one of the most infamous sites in the open web with a user base that will hate you for making the smallest mistake let's not kid ourselves we tend to not be the most understanding and forgiving bunch, i still think banning loli is the wrong move for many reasons, but i get his reasoning and as you say the biggest problem is Jim i used to think having an owner that really didn't give a fuck was actually a good thing, i'm starting to think i was wrong.
And to think things were looking up just a few days ago.
>things were looking up
Right? Ron may have inadvertently saved Mark's ass. Or maybe Mark managed to get the fatal wound by proxy of the loli issue.
Ron's other answers did well to quell the userbase and then the loli issue got retarded. Ron is being dense by applying the obscenity test as broadly as possible and Jim is being dense by being peak boomer and not liking anything that he thinks is CP.
>Drybones and Moltar
To clarify, they aren't BOs and I don't think ever have been.
They were GamerGate-adjacent and were behind a number of websites including mixtape.moe and gitgud.
/v/ is being raided,I do not know by who, but it seems like people are IP hopping like mad and "suddenly" people unfamiliar with what's going on or post like they don't belong there.
Are people attempting to make a power-play by making the place unbearable?
Their cancer is mostly contained in the 5 meta-threads, but I wonder where exactly they could be coming from besides maybe pigfood's site.
I didn't mean that thread specifically,anon.
I meant generally when Ron's new "totally in effect" rule hit the global rules page.
No bullshit,that's the best thing actually done in the board since the whole drama with Mark started,it's a clear action and a good direction for anons to do things.It might even get Ron to actually change his mind now that users are actively fucking with other users as a response.
Even with the niggerpill posting, I find it the best of the meta threads festering on the front page of the board right now.
>WHAT HAPPENED TO HEAD MEIDO
Let's just say he has been permanently "relocated", along with his fellow ~~forum members~~ anons. You can find them at their ~~concentration imageboard~~ comfy bunker, and remember, spamming seasonal anime screenshots sets you free.
fatchan was only made to test out and show up JSchan by the dev. It's going to cut-off board creation once it hits ~20 boards. It was never meant to become a full 8chan clone, that's why it joined the webring to make sure no one person is burdened with handling every board. If /v/ settles on fatchan then it and julay will probably be the big two of the webring in terms of traffic.
Waiting to see how Acidchan launch goes before I place a bet. If they fuck it up then Fatchan is a contender. If they get it right then it's their game to lose.
Anyone with sense will never use a site run by Josh and endorsed by the cripple. A lot of people hate Mark but I would take him in a second over Josh. Dude is completely inept and he's shilling his board on Kiwi Farms.
Biggest contender otherwise is probably Julay which managed to snag a lot of bunkers and is basically half the webring. But they're still /cow/ fags and I don't trust them to be admins of a whole board. I was fine with /baph/ back in the day but there's a big difference between a dox board on a video game imageboard and a video game board on a dox imageboard.
So I'm really hoping that Julay dies down or doesn't get much support.
We'll see how Acidchan goes. Mostly I just want the people in bunkers to stop being niggers. If we end up going to a site I don't like collectively then I'll suck it up. But 9chan is gonna be cancer and Julay faggots literally won't move ever and will only accept us going there, which is genuinely the biggest problem with them. They won't compromise and that's unreasonable.
Worst-case is we all end up being nomads who have to check five slow boards instead of one or two decently fast ones and life sucks until a few of the admins fuck up or shut down and everyone migrates to the remainder.
It might just be a game of "which admin can last the longest without drama", which is a bullshit way to choose a successor site but if we don't all go together it's the inevitable outcome.
Well, I'm out of here as a poster, will be checking the Kouya thread for updates until someone makes the new Kouya thread on the bunker (and the general scanlation one too). I'm not expecting a burocratic miracle nor project pigdin to suddenly fix 8{Q}newsplus (and Jim-Ron head) in a week.
I tried, I relly did.
Bye byeeeeeeeee!
The funny thing is that they half did and half didn't want to stay away, resulting in a pathetic spergout on various boards fueled by pure cognitive dissonance. Ironically, it can be said that /animu/ usurping /a/ helped them decide.
See? Don't go around saying we don't help people.
I don't even think it was the userbase of /a/ that did that. I've always used both boards (more lurking on the meido /a/ than posting) and the general consensus of the board was that they were happy to be gone. I assume the butthurt came from the head meido himself or maybe one or two other people because at the time I didn't see anyone upset over being gone from 8kun at all.
Mostly because they brought their butthurt on the meta threads of other smug boards and a few even here, like /hgg/, pathetically asking BO's and local anons "whose side they were on", in resume, while keeping the main smug/a/ board clean of drama. Classic meido modus operandi, remember the defunct /a/ meta board here where the meidos isolated all criticism, legit or not, in a safe echo chamber? Very forum-like behavior.
>The site being unpostable for a day was more harmful to it than anything else.
>a day
Nigger I've been trying to RUN A BOARD on this website for a few MONTHS now and can't substantively log in more than once every three weeks (not that it matters since Ron apparently removed that for telling him to blow it out his ass).
So why aren't we migrating to 9chan? I don't at all understand why >jewsh is a reason not to. I was here for his and HW's bungling of Infinity Next, Josh did nothing wrong. He's been pretty excellent at keeping Kiwifarms running in a anti-fragile way, can't be any worse than the Jim administration. Also:
-Loli is explicitly allowed
-Image posting over Tor is allowed
-Software is new and actively improved instead of patched together with bandaids and electrical tape
I don't see why we are making such a fuss about this ship sinking when the new one is already waiting.
>Free speech is banned literally everywhere.
It isn't at any non-office job that pays more than minimum wage.
Long story. /a/ is on their bunker (smuglo.li) and hasn't left in a year. Mark screeched because they wouldn't come back so he handed the board to /animu/.
I won't deny the squatting, but claiming it just "magically" appeared on the claims list when Mark personally handed it to Kamisama is kinda disingenuous, dude.
>Why aren't we moving to a site that's so overrun with cuckchanners its practically Cuckchan deluxe
Pics related, just look at the quality posting that cuckchanners are capable of!
Is this seriously what you want? This is the kind of people you think will be able to hold a conversation with you that doesn't devolve into canned 1 word responses like based, seethe, cope?
>Pretend Josh didn't spend a year making this site worse, spamming threads, and wasting our money
>Pretend it's not a site run that's cuckchan-tier and overrun with KiwiFarms users
>Pretend that the software being new makes it functional when everyone here remembers the botched migrations
How to reveal you're a newfag or shill
>Made by Joshua 'i'm out of fucking money, buy my shirt' Moon
>Shilled by Soygoblin
>Advertised on (((Discord))) and Cuckchan as seen >>955265
If you like it so much, then why don't go there? We definitely won't though.
>Mark personally handed it to Kamisama is kinda disingenuous
Oh yeah, kind of forgot about that as well, thanks for reminding me. Either way, /a/ got the last laugh in the end.
>the butthurt came from one vol who is known to be a massive sperg and attention seeking faggot.
Yeah that's what I kind of figured, it was the userbase who wanted to stay gone so I would have been surprised if it was the users who were upset about being gone. Truthfully I was upset that /animu/ moved to /a/ just because I liked the fact that /animu/ became its own board completely separate from the legacy /a/. I liked that it had its own unique identity and I truly thought that given the chance no one would have wanted the /a/ title and everyone else felt the same way. So when kamisama moved us here I felt like this board lost a bit of itself.
Personally, I never really got this attitude of being too attached to the names and labels or obsessing about vague shit like uniqueness of identity.
As long as I can shitpost with /animu/ anons without some shrieking harpies trying to control what can and cannot be posted like in most other imageboard offshots, the board can be called whatever as far as I care.
>it was the userbase who wanted to stay gone so I would have been surprised if it was the users who were upset about being gone
The mood on /a/ at the time was "Oh well good riddance then, if those /animu/ faggots want to wear that old corpse and parade about pretending to be us good for them". Basically just general contempt for /animu/ for collaborating with Mark but otherwise not really being too fussed.
It was mostly kami that thought legacy names mattered, which isn't something I've ever believed either. I don't think anyone here is dumb enough to get confused about which community this is.
I despise loli, I find it revolting. I despised mark, I hated his shit tier rulings. But damn, a broken clock is right two times a day. This is the first step in a long process to remove every BO from this website, delete those boards and turn this place into a news blog. They don't give a shit about anything that doesn't make them profit.
I see the writing on the wall. I'd just rather move to Acidchan or Fatchan.
Even the two other bunkers, julay and smug, are both preferable to 9chan though.
As bad as Ron and Jim are Josh is inept and won't be able to keep the site up. It'll buckle under its own weight and the quality of posts is already total shit.
Since Ron refuses to pin a global announcement on the site about this massive change in rules (since he knows the people that don’t read meta threads will leave when they become aware of it) I figure the best idea if for BO’s to pin announcements on their own boards. You know, just so people can be informed about these changes.
This dudes argument is pretty dumb. If you never act on paedophilia urges i really don't see the problem / how that will effect anyone. Watching loli and being called a child predator is the same as playing any modern fps and being called a psychopath.
The fuck even is 'artistic value'? I mean would a jury be able to determine that Star Vs The Forces of Evil hentai isn't 'artistic'? Fanart involving the show is often very highly stylized and is far different than how an image of a real child would look.
>the lgbt people who like sexualizing kids
the rest of the sentence is unnecessary. Twitter and Instagram shouldn't allow people under 18 to discuss sexuality whatsoever past 'trans people are human' and 'LGBT people don't deserve to be discriminated against' but as soon as they post a Steven Universe ship they get banned. lgbt romance is no different from straight romance. that being said, romance leads to sex as much as lolicon leads to child rape. and considering SJW philosophy, wouldn't that mean kids participating in things like shipping is encouraging them to be sexual, and wouldn't that make most LGBT-related stuff not okay in their world?
If you masturbate to cartoon characters resembling kids frequently, it can affect your judgment. Also lust is one of the seven deadly sins for a reason: it has very strong control over your emotions. If you get used to masturbating to the naked anatomy or likeness of a child, you'll likely start craving that, and someday you may become tired of the inconsistencies in artwork and start wanting 'the naked anatomy or likeness of a child' in something more 'real'. Even if you can practice self-control and not consume illegal CP, it's not healthy to accept wanting something that you could never morally obtain. At least not obsessively wanting it in the way of sex. As for 'only liking cartoons': if you would like to cosplay as a cartoon character or get plushies of cartoon characters to make them more real, that's better than potentially projecting your interest of cartoon lolis onto real kids. Like how lolis might help cope with craving real kids, real kids might help cope with craving lolis, and that's never acceptable. As for lust: I've failed to remove overall sexuality from my life so many times. Testosterone, the influence of my horny peers, other hard emotions outside of porn, and normalization of masturbation/sexual behavior have consistently been able to take over my rationale that sex is unimportant, one of the most controversial issues that there is, and is far more risky than it is genuinely rewarding. If lust didn't control peoples' lives, places like /r/nofap and things like chemical castration medication wouldn't exist. Not everyone wants to be a shitty person, it's just that growing past what they're stuck with can sometimes be so difficult that sometimes all they seem to be left with are: suicide, attempting crotchety therapy like /r/nofap or going to a medical professional that likely hasn't studied how to deal with pedophilia, living in a constant state of never being able to be satisfied, becoming a hermit, learning how to appear as a normal person, becoming emotionally numb to lower one's sense of morality, attempting to replace pedophilic feelings with a greater obsession, unhealthily coping through means like lolicon, or just giving in to impulse and doing sexual things with real kids while disregarding the legal and moral consequences of doing so.
tl;dr don't masturbate to loli. Maybe you were groomed or sexually abused as a kid, maybe you were into porn at a young age, but let go. Loli has no place in your life and if you must fall back, fall back with adults in some way or another. If adults aren't sexy to you, nothing should be. Allowing loli to be a part of your life will sacrifice your quality of living and may even lead to the endangerment of real children.