>feel empty inside

>wonder if religion can help fill that void

>zero faith in the modern christian, catholicuck religions of today

>not nordic so looking up Norse Paganism feels kinda weird

>since I'm Scottish I look up Celtic Paganism

>wade through the LARPy Wiccan faggotry

>read about how bro-tier the Gods were and how their outlook was basically:

>"treat someone well, but if they fuck with you or your countrymen then make your revenge on them threefold"

>actually feels great studying this stuff even though I've always hated studying

>decide to look up and see if I wasn't the only one interested in this stuff

>turns out "Celtic Pagan Reconstructionism" is a thing

>over the fucking moon

>"finally, the place for m- oh fuck no"

http://www.paganachd.com/faq/misconceptions.html#racist

https://www.reddit.com/r/Paganacht/comments/5kb8ol/are_there_any_instances_of_gender_variance_or/

>it's tumblr buzzword bullshit LARP faggotry

>no doubt they saw an image of a Triquetra and decided to research it

>saw that Wiccanry was "too mainstream"

>thought they'd call themselves Pagan to be "fresher, cooler and even more special"

>only following parts they want to and ignoring the parts that go against there identity politics

>"Maybe I'm being to cynical, perhaps they just don't know any better?"

>decide to message these folk and correct their hypocracy and blatant lies

>"Fuck off racist I don't care! You're blocked!"

W E W

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Now I plan on starting my own site soon with proper information free of political bullshit.

So if there are any Celts on this board, or in general curious and helpful folk, I would appreciate any help in gathering info and recontructing this religion to it's former glory.

Hell if one of you have started something I would love to help with it

>>13205

I looked into CR for a while, but the cuckery that seems ingrained in all of this shit was painful.

Also, good fucking luck getting ANY shit worth seeing the light of day on plebbit. Their pro-faggot-tranny-universalist mentality is cancerous.

Best of luck on your endeavors.

>>13206

>I looked into CR for a while, but the cuckery that seems ingrained in all of this shit was painful.

Yeah I'm hoping that once this new reconstructionism I'm doing kicks off, these faggots are either viewed as Wiccan-tier faggots or they abandon their false beliefs entirely.

>Best of luck on your endeavors.

Thanks man I appreciate it, my plan is to use the information and resources they have to find the truth.

Saves me doing all the legwork I guess.

Why were you looking into CR?

Just a general curiosity, or did you want to get back to your roots?

Could always join my quest lad.

I'm mostly unfamiliar with Celt stuff. I started reading The Celts by Gerhard Herm and found it amusing that the ancient French used to fuck up Rome on a regular basis and keep lacquered heads as trophies.

I've seen some videos in the past that may be of interest to you.

There was one long podcast type video about druids that the owner made private. There was some other interesting video on druids as well but I don't remember the name. Mainly about druids being the builders of Egypt's pyramids. It sounds silly, but makes more sense if you hear the reasons.

Here is a video called Hidden History of Britain, which covers some history cover ups about ancient and prehistoric UK.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GOcttn4VwE

>>13209

Thanks man I'll check it out.

>>13210

It's a bit too Christian, but that video is interesting enough to think about.

I couldn't find a show I listened to with Thomas Sheridan back in August. He has a youtube account but it's mainly unrelated stuff. http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2016/08/11

This is the video I was originally looking for. The Druids by Michael Tsarion. I'm not sure what to think of this guy but it might be important information. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1cyG6syuus

>>13211

I appreciate this lad, taing mhór.

>>13208

>the sources they have

Eeeeeeh

Well, anyway, you might want to look what scottish and english academics of the 20th and 19th century wrote about folk beliefs of their times and their own research in paganism.

This is free from cuckery as its from imperial times and also often not that biased. Must be compared to what modern etymologysts and historians say tho, Ostara for example is a completely fictive deity they speculated over back then and only Wiccas havmt heard the call.

>>13214

>Eeeeeeh

Don't worry, I'll be filtering the bullshit and making double checking their "findings".

>you might want to look what scottish and english academics of the 20th and 19th century wrote

I'll keep that in mind thanks.

> and only Wiccas havmt heard the call.

Fucking Wiccans man I swear.

>>13214

http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/celt/cg1/

I need to read through this, the dude who wrote it done so in 1900 and really seemed to care about what he did.

Plus side, ctrl+f "jew" on his wiki page has 0 results.

>>13216

Also look into peasant superstitions that died out with the industrialisation.

A lot of small agricultural and household practizes survived astoundishingly long in backwater villages.

You have stories of north german peasants hanging the vagina and the uterus (only nonusuable part) of butchered pigs in the crowns of old trees for the "would/wod" to take who then gave his invidible part back for the crops and other odd leftovers.

The same should be with celtic practizes in scotland in the 19th century and the celtic bretagne too which was known for weird villages for a long time.

>>13217

Will do, thanks.

Found a druidic podcast.

http://www.druidry.org/druid-way/resources/druidcast-obod-podcast

>>13209

If the druids built the pyramids, why are there no pyramids in France and Britain?

>>13219

I'm listening to more of his videos. I'm guessing they were pre-flood druids that had the knowledge and power. Maybe I'll hear the answer in some other video of his. He has some good stuff so far.

>>13220

>the knowledge and power.

Did they also have the special minds and sheeeit?

>>13221

Seems to be, they're like aliens now

>>13208

I'm a mutt virtue of my being American. Irish, Scottish, English, Italian, and Polish, and that's without doing a 23andMe. Was torn b/w CR and Heathenry for the longest time, but eventually settled on Heathenry. Been practicing for about 2-3 years now.

>>13225

pol was talking about 23andme

they said not to do it because suspicious company

>>13228

It has Jews in their top ranks. What company doesn't, though?

>>13228

Jews care about their lineage tho, so the tools that help them to find out about it should be accurate and honest.

Id expect the only kind of manipulation in the way "Ashkenazi" is an own thing besides split levantine and european genes, enough people got 100% european genes too so the "the jews put 1% african in my chart!" complaint seems rather unlikely.

>>13205

You'd be a fool to ignore the bible completely.

Those prophecies are strange man. And you're on a rock in space remember.

I've been feeling torn between the Norse gods and the Celtic gods so I'll be happy to help. If you're looking for sources this guys list seems helpful

http://norse-mythology.org/best-books-celtic-mythology/

I'll be buying some of these with my next paycheck so I'll be happy to scan them.

Mind if I ask were you got your info from btw?

>>13205

Your thread was reposted on brit/pol/ and I find it really interesting.

Why not join us on there too? You could keep us posted as to how your project develops.

Not sure how to link across boards, so I'm going to just post the url to the current thread and see if that works.

http://8ch.net/pol/res/9241951.html#9280846

Here's a useful link I found. They've gone down the whole anti-racist/anti-misogyny bullshit route but the info they've got there seems reasonably legit.

http://www.dunbrython.org/

http://www.renegadetribune.com/celtic-cosmogony/

>being torn between x and y group of gods

The Prose Edda, in the Gylfaginning said that they are all but one, explicitly saying that Thor is Jupiter and that Odin is Saturn. The same can be said for the celtic gods, i wager.

Now back to the topic, does anyone know about works the iberian celtic religion? I'm afraid the only groups active here are either wiccans or closed groups that i have no information on. I do know that the british celtic religion is sort of based on the iberian, but they did change quite a bit during the ages, so i usually don't take them very seriously. And all the groups related to it are cucked into oblivion, being quite literally larpers with flashy rituals and psychedelics.

There is literally nothing wrong with being transgender.

>>14343

An hero argr faggot.

>>14339

Jupiter killed Saturn

>>14339

>Odin is Saturn

Romans and later on early romanic christians linked the maingod of the germanics to Mercur tho. Seems nonsensical at first, but the "proto-Odin" aka continental Woden was more of a death, wind and fieldgod then an all seing overlord which fits a bit more to the early hermes who occupied a similar role before their philosophers went apeshit with the concept and threw oriental and egyptian stuff in.

That is very farfetched tho, another easier explanation is that the romans and more so later christians were kinda lazy concerning the interpretation of gods in one another and used the terms they knew best. Also the rhineland was pretty romanized for some time, so tribes there taking on the roman god of trade which they were so dependent on until the disintegration of the empire and reemergance of more native deities makes also sense.

>iberian celtic religion

Might as well ask about the berbergods of the canary islands. They got severely decimated by the romans at a time which lies even further back in history then the sack of gaul afaik. Also if you think about the fact that the basques survived in the general area you might have some really funky pre-indoeuropean stuff thrown inbetween which makes it all the more enigmatic.

If you are a spaniard simply go for roman rites, you will enjoy a shitton of sources-both from literature and your local archeologic digouts (romans never fully ditched native gods but assimilated them via compound names-not all is lost), some theology laid out for you to ponder about and spanish folklore and customs might fill the gaps.

>>14350

Weird thing is they still held the saturnalias in honour of Saturn and had festivals, I guess death was not always meant completely literal in relation to gods.

Relevant for irish, albeit ofc not an absolute authority on the matter.

http://oldeuropeanculture.blogspot.de/2015/04/how-old-is-crom-dubh.html

>>14351

>Romans and later on early romanic christians linked the maingod of the germanics to Mercur tho.

Didn't know about that. Got any links on that?

>Seems nonsensical at first, but the "proto-Odin" aka continental Woden was more of a death, wind and fieldgod

So, literally Saturn/Chronos? Hermes was always associated with knowledge, not any of this.

>That is very farfetched tho, another easier explanation is that the romans and more so later christians were kinda lazy concerning the interpretation of gods in one another and used the terms they knew best. Also the rhineland was pretty romanized for some time, so tribes there taking on the roman god of trade which they were so dependent on until the disintegration of the empire and reemergance of more native deities makes also sense.

Well, it's in the Prose Edda itself, which is supposed to be based on ancient oral tradition. I guess it could be some sort of adulteration made by the author trying to push an agenda, but not only these parallels make some sense, but there is no evidence of this part of the gylfaginning being fake.

Anyways, none of this really matters since each god is meant to represent a certain archetype, independent of which tradition you follow.

Eh, the area only ever got romanized with the muslim invasion on the 700s, when they needed to either lick charlesmagne's boots to survive, thus becoming christians, or getting genocided by the muslims.

>If you are a spaniard simply go for roman rites, you will enjoy a shitton of sources-both from literature and your local archeologic digouts (romans never fully ditched native gods but assimilated them via compound names-not all is lost), some theology laid out for you to ponder about and spanish folklore and customs might fill the gaps.

Eh, North Portugal but that's close enough. What you say is true, though. For quite some time, romans endorsed the cult of Endovelicus (lusitanean god of social cohesion an sanitation) through all of the empire, but that's the best example, really.

>Also if you think about the fact that the basques survived in the general area you might have some really funky pre-indoeuropean stuff thrown inbetween which makes it all the more enigmatic.

Basques aren't a different cultural group from the other celts of the area. Actually, all of Spain's north coast was originally much closer to the basques culturally than the rest of Spain. The language just sort of developed out of thin air.

>>14339

>Thor is Jupiter and that Odin is Saturn

Odin is traditionally associated with Mercury (see Tacitus). Saturn is obviously Ymir in this context.

>>14360

>Got any links on that?

Not only Tacticus who at least hints at mercur being a very important one, but a lot of inscriptions to mercurios in the romanised rhineland around the first to second century and also some christian writers still using the name of Mercur to relate to Wotan.

I dont expect you to be able to read this, but the latin part you should look at if you scroll down:

https://books.google.de/books?id=ucYqAQAAQBAJ&pg=PT80&lpg=PT80&dq=merkur+wotan&source=bl&ots=HKzaq_JVzH&sig=JPM1N3BA9NHmdHZK0aFwwNuADFA&hl=de&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjL3uvKgqDTAhUkAcAKHZjtCUwQ6AEIOzAE#v=onepage&q=merkur%20wotan&f=false

Paulus Diaconas from north italy, wrote in the 7th century about the past of the langobards saying they used to worship wotan called mercur by the romans.

More sources like that exist but they are all rather vague and only short. Also the authors could have had historical misconceptions just like it can happen to us.

>not any of this

Mercur lead souls of the dead into the underworld as he was a messenger and contactman in that way too. Wotan carrys the souls of the dead around him during the wild hunt. Fertility was slapped to all gods imaginable as it was such an omnipresent wish as health or sucess at searching jobs today is. He was a cattlegod too in rural greece afterall. But you are right that the connections are not sufficent and end in grasping at shit like both of them wearing flat hats.

I brought mercurios mostly up to show that the equation to roman gods is kinda fickle as differing accounts exist. Just making a tabella where all the european pantheons fit in with every god having his counterpart is sadly not possible.

>each god is meant to represent a certain archetype

While going autistic about their sexual genealogys and the back and forth shuffling in the pantheons will be fruitless, etymological research seems to the most promising tool to get a few hints about the way patterns formed along those archetypes which spread over europe.

You believe archetypes having an own will/agency?

The word has different complex meanings according to whom you ask, making it only about some abstract symbolism though seems like atheism with libations.

>the area

Which one you mean in particular?

The rhineland and belgium had a germano-roman-celtic syncretic culture from 50bc-200 ad before the migratory period kicked the romans out again.

Lots of roman made idols or votive plates with roman deity names with local surnames/equations where found, so some interaction happened.

>but that's the best example, really

Better knowing a lot about one deity with a strong connection to your local area and being aware how people saw and practised for and with it/which imprint that might have left in folklore, then having read the wiki pages of a few pantheons once.

The roman syncretism gives you a lot to work with really, there are standartised prayerforms and what not that were preserved I heard.

>The language just sort of developed out of thin air.

Huh, that I did not knew. Always thought basues were the only surviving language group from the time were the protoeuropeans werent even really into farming yet and got sheltered by the iberian mountains from mideast farmer and indo-euro admixture.

>>14368

I remember reading somewhere that some Romans said the ancient Germans worshipped Mars above all other gods, which is what they called Tyr (Tuesday is the day of Mars in latin languages)(Thor they associated with Hercules). Tyr is etymologically said to descend from the same Indo-Euro root word that formed Deus and Zeus.

I suspect that the supremacy of the berserkers in the norse lands led Odin to be considered the chief god, but everywhere else in the Germanic lands, Tyr may have been.

>>14378

>supremacy of berserkers

While Wotan/Odin may have been a god of ecstasis which fits to these kinds of warriors, thinking that the supremacy of Odin in the north stems from them alone conflicts with two things that come to my mind.

Firstly the germanic world wasnt static, from the observations of Tacticus around 90AD to the migratory period around the fifth century ad until the late viking age of the north that ended only in early medieval times some cultural upheaval happened.

Germanics in the first to second century encountered roman culture in the westernmost areas and got assimilated to some extend, while the rest of germania magna remains mostly unknown but likely had some established rulers, that got ended with the migratory age that was so chaotic that even the huns left some imprint (a germanic tribe briefly adapted central asian headbinding from following hunnic warlords Ive read) it is in this time that most academic sources agree on Wodan rising to supremacy among them a development stemming from the south not the north.

Accounts of missionarys mention Wotan in bavaria and the alps as an important deity. This could be because the migratory period toppled the many old chiefdoms of the germanics in favour of flexible wandering warlords who lorded over new tribes merged from the old ones that needed a new identity.

These people who may not have come to power from established noblelines but by more meritocratic or populist means favouring a wandering, ecstatic god over the old Tyr/Tiwaz makes sense. If they were berserkers or from associated circles I do not know.

Serious acadrmic Literature about Wotan-Odin in this context was made by Kris Kershaw and Otto Höfler. I need to read up about this myself.

Odins establishment in the north as a result of the turbulent migratory period was and stayed mainly a phenomen among the nobles and chiefs of scandinavia who now were new garants of stability again.

For these courts , the skalds made literature.

Scandi commoners during the viking age are said to prefer thor in contrast.

>>14382

>Scandi commoners during the viking age are said to prefer thor in contrast.

From my understanding Thor was a god of workers (farmers, craftsmen, etc Not thralls though there is a distinction) so those workers would make a bulk of their sacrifices to him.

The more however I learn of Norse/Germanic lore the more I get the feeling though there was no particular chief central deity. I mean sure Odin is the Patriarch of the gods but I do not find his importance dwarfing any of the other gods. I am sure Odin was always thought of and honored but I think your status in life dictated which god was central to you.

This is just a feeling I have though. I mean I am sure Odin got more mention because he was a central god to nobility. But ask a lawgiver who an important god to him was and he would probably say "Tyr". Ask the same of a workmen and he would say "Thor" and if you asked a fertility priest they would say "Frey and Freya" etc.

>>14378

I suspect that the supremacy of the berserkers in the norse lands led Odin to be considered the chief god, but everywhere else in the Germanic lands, Tyr may have been.

Wrong

Tacitus also mentioned that the Germans went to war wearing wolf-pelts and other beasts , and shouting like madmen and biting their shields. all of that is exactly how the beserks were described only beserks carried bear pelts (and there are some vague references to beserks to wore wolf pelts called ulfhedinn, similar to those in germany)

beserks were much older than just norse and were inherent o germany culture, it was a part of their warrior cult. in fact in the girmoires that ive read like the picatrix, the 3 occult books and the red dragon, they say that offerings done to mars should be done wearing a very specific suit, where you wear a wolf pelt adorned with belts and red ribbons, and wear every weapon that you own and clang them together. This seems like some small remnant of a beserk cult in roman culture, so I suspect is is an ancient aryan thing. the fact the romans did it with mars though I think implies that originally it had more to do with Tiwaz, and Odin must have adopted it when he became the chief god. Norse sagas would contradict this though, they say Odin first taught men to be beserks, and usually norse sagas are fairly accurate (they recounted events from the early germanic migration, thats pretty old for oral records)

Just getting into this realm myself. I ordered the oldest Welsh literature I could find le morte d'arthur and the four ancient books of Wales though these stories are from 400-1200 AC. Studying them is the closest thing you will find to original Celtic folklore.

Tolkien did a great job with LOTR I think that is a great spiritual epic for a Celtic revival. Dharma nation (recently appeared on redice radio) has a video detailing LOTR with natural law https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh36Ys0hxoE

As for the purest Celtic race it has to be the Welsh or the Basque people. I don't know much about the Basque country though they sound extremely similar to the Welsh. There are many Druids in Wales as a revival has been taking place there from around 1900. Welsh is also the healthiest Celtic language that still thrives today.

And something we all look over is the thriving of pagan rituals and festivals etc in Christianity. Briton being a fairly early convert to Christianity compared to the Norse I would think alot of what we now think of Brtish Christianity is actually Celtic. I have a feeling what we imagine as angels as daughters of god are European as Christians keep pointing out that biblical angels are always male or not even human like. I made a thread about angels on /pol/ http://8ch.net/pol/res/9795563.html

glad you brought up welsh mythology. you would find echoes of it everywhere on eurasia. the story of the sword in the stone is one that finds itself cropping up in almost every culture, even as far as china. pretty sure the boy who stole the giants treasure is welsh too.

the old brittanic stories are particularly potent and have great archetypal and spiritual value. go and read the mabinogion guys.

>>14460

I just started reading it yesterday.

It sucks being an Englishfag. I don't know if my ancestors were Britons who got cucked into practicing Germanic culture, or actual Germanic Saxons/Angles/Jutes etc.

>>14473

Its' probably a mixture of both

>>14473

Upset you are decendant from the 2 master races Celtic and Norse? We're basically the same mix the Hellenes were of the old European type mixed with the Indo Aryans.

Channers will find a reason to lose even when given the best genetics…

>>14476

>We're basically the same mix the Hellenes were of the old European type mixed with the Indo Aryans.

>he bought into the haplogroup meme

>>13205

>>Scottish

tbh you might be Germanic there were many Saxon lords in North Anglo-land. Only you would have the historical information to know whether or not.

If you are Celtic know that the Druids by nature made sure to keep their mythos chaotic and not easily understandable. Many of them even joined the Catholic Church early on to put pressure on Saxon kingdoms to gain back ground. Their deities have no history with man and will do whatever they want. Also I have some historical books by Celtic bards talking about how the Druids invented Judaism and there is an anon around this site with pages from a book showing all the similarities between Hebrew and Gaelic. In Gaelic, biblical names can take on their own definitions if you know the corruptions, but in the Hebrew the names have no deeper meaning. So welcome to what's called "fake" Celtic history where the druids say the darnest things like that they are the true Jews, or traveling to the Americas and back again or that Jesus Christ explicitly with blue eyes was born somewhere in Scotland. Oh even an Ogdoad featuring probably Kek is mentioned in some of the books but she is some kind of vessel to move you.

Where you might want to start is with the Welsh bards as they were/are the most open about who they really were/are. I'll tell you I'm not a big fan of Celts by nature because they have a history of being ok with racemixing and adoption including their deities showing themselves of all kinds of races and not caring about whiteness. Though all the historical examples I could cite would be of racemixing with Romans and Germanics. There is a case of druids sending their female hunters to track down some nigger legionaries and then to torture and mutilate them during the collapse of the Empire in Briton but whether this was because they did some bad things or just because they look different is ambiguous. The Queens of their people always seemed to have blue eyes which makes you think eugenics is involve, so like I said they are purposefully chaotic to outsiders.

The Germanic explicitly has the core tenant that your lineage matters more than what you believe in since our deities gave part of themselves to us for to free us from remaining only dwarven sculptures.

There are a 2 assumptions I am going to make that might make our understanding of our past a bit clearer. The first assumption is that humanity is much older than what mainstream science would have us believe. The second is that during the last ice age all of Europe was for the most part, one large, contiguous landmass. With this in mind, I would posit that all European religions since the last ice age most likely have a single origin. From Grimm's Fairytales to the Eddas we are all, on an old, deep level, apart of a pan-European religiosity.

Our people united.

Fuck Wicca!

Thus sayeth Óðrerir.

>>14519

A Third Assumption that fucks your assumptions up is that euros didnt grow out of the earth in that landmass but that there were a few invasions of people-indoayrans just being one, who all had different religions ending up in only a partially unified slur of polytheisms.

>>14339

Thor isn't Jupiter, Jupiter's germanic equivalent would be Teiwaz or tyr

>>14551

You triggered me. Tyr is obviously Mars. Thor is Jupiter, look at this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRst061YTVU

>>14649

NO nigger, Teiwaz descends from the Aryan root Dyeus Pitar or Sky father

Jupiter and Zeus Pater all descend from this root

Teiwaz is Jupiter

Re posting this from another thread but it seems relevant. I've been looking into connections between Celtic gods and there are definitely a few:

Taranis ==Thunor

>Thunder/ protector god, fairly obvious

Lugus ==Wodan

> Both have a magical spear and horse

>Both are portrayed as king of their respective pantheons

>Wodan is the god of wisdom and knowledge, Lugus is god of crafts (tenuous connection but it's still a connection)

The ones I'm struggling with are the counterparts to Ingui (Freyr) and Tiw. Esus and Toutatis seem to be good counterparts to Tiw and Belanus seems to be the equivalent to Ingui. Will keep you guys posted if interested.

Lugus and Wodan best gods tbh

>>14676

This, keep in mind that Tiw used to be king of the gods before Wodan

>>14676

Tyrone,

I analised that and Tyr really seems not to be Mars but Venus.

His opponent at Ragnarok is Garm which is scorpio, opposite sign is Taurus ->Tyr =God-Bull

Probably two gods (of Mars and Venus) got mixed due to tabooization of spelling its full name, Tyr of Mars might have been something+Tyr, nordic gods usally has names in similar fashion, for example Baldr

BTW he of course is not Jupiter, deus and similar words can mean anything 'divine', not only sky-god.

>>14684

Re posting this from the same thread

Toutatis ==Tiw

>Both were compared by Ceasar to the Roman god Mars

>Both were war/protector gods

Not too much is known about Toutatis but if he's anything like Tiw, then he'd be god of war and law as well as oath-taking

Cernunnos ==Ingui (Freyr)

This is much more tenuous

>Both are fertility gods

>both are said to be gods of animal husbandry, although Cernunnos is also the god of wild animals and, by extension, hunting

Rosmerta ==Frigg

>both are the wives of Lugus/Wodan

>Rosmerta is the goddess of fertility and plenty, however, there is evidence to suggest that she is also the goddess of divination, much like Frigg

If any of you guys think I've fucked up somewhere by all means tell me, kinda need some feedback

>>14339

>>14351

>>14360

>If you are a spaniard simply go for roman rites, you will enjoy a shitton of sources-both from literature and your local archeologic digouts (romans never fully ditched native gods but assimilated them via compound names-not all is lost), some theology laid out for you to ponder about and spanish folklore and customs might fill the gaps.

Not the Iberian Anon, but what about the Lusitanian gods? Wouldn't they be the closest thing to a native pantheon for the Iberian Peninsula to have? Or is there not enough primary sources to get a glimpse of what the Lusitanian pantheon was like?

What about the Paleo-Balkan gods? Would you suggest that ethnic Romanians go for the Roman rites by virtue of a shared linguistic heritage of speaking a Romance language? Or do you think they should go with the Paleo-Balkan pantheon in recognition of their Dacian/Thracian/Illyrian roots?

Also, why is there a separate neopagan movement for the Paleo-Balkan gods while no such neopagan movement exists for the Lusitanian gods? Is it because the Romanians have more historical materiel to work with than the residents of the Iberian Peninsula do? Or is it some other completely different reason?

>>14701

Iberian(portugal)-anon here.

>Not the Iberian Anon, but what about the Lusitanian gods? Wouldn't they be the closest thing to a native pantheon for the Iberian Peninsula to have? Or is there not enough primary sources to get a glimpse of what the Lusitanian pantheon was like?

Well, the only god we actually have any substantial info on is Endovelicus, the good of social health, sanitation, cohesion and that sort of things, and only so because the romans chose to spread his cult to other provinces because of it's an almost non-existant concept in other region's pantheons. Other than him, we only know of some few names in both the lusitanean and galaic pantheon these two groups often worshipped the same god , like Duvres ( spiritual impersonation of the douro river, a temple to him is said to have existed somewhere on the Douro delta), Reve (God of war, Reo (main deity, something between Thor and Jupiter) and some others which we dont't even know what they stood for.

>What about the Paleo-Balkan gods? Would you suggest that ethnic Romanians go for the Roman rites by virtue of a shared linguistic heritage of speaking a Romance language? Or do you think they should go with the Paleo-Balkan pantheon in recognition of their Dacian/Thracian/Illyrian roots?

>Also, why is there a separate neopagan movement for the Paleo-Balkan gods while no such neopagan movement exists for the Lusitanian gods? Is it because the Romanians have more historical materiel to work with than the residents of the Iberian Peninsula do? Or is it some other completely different reason?

Can't help you much with the paleo-balkanic gods but i've heard that their religion was similar to the russian religion, so if you research into Rodnoverie, if you avoid baseless reconstructionism that is, you will probably find something related.

And yeah, since the 90s there has been a pagan revival in Portugal, although the numbers are probably still under 10.000, most of which being wiccan-tier leftists, but there are some good people. A lot of pagan traditions survived in the portuguese culture and can be observed in some of our festivals like saint johns day's pyre and the careto carnival.

But yeah, basically there is almost no material to work with when you talk about iberian gods. Most of the information about them was in a local proto-alphabet ,which we don't have any fragment of, that was mentioned by some roman historians.

You fucks need to read more metaphysics.

Týr is the same as Iu-pitar and Zeus exoterically, but not the same esoterically. You all need to realize that Aryan religions are not static but dynamic, as long as there is spiritual truth along a path it is considered a good religion. (Abrahamics do not have these, they are lunar religions).

Also for the Celtic dude, I feel so sorry for you. Here's a tip, Evola's "Mystery of the Grail" has tons of references and explanations about Celtic mythology until about chapter 13

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>>14688

>I analised that and Tyr really seems not to be Mars but Venus.

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>His opponent at Ragnarok is Garm which is scorpio, opposite sign is Taurus ->Tyr =God-Bull

Astronomy has nothing to do with the believes of our ancestors, srry.

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The few sources for celtiberian paganism I've been able to find are for the most part in spanish, and if they're in english they reference spanish/portuguese source material, which is to be expected. I'm primarily of Iberian(spanish) descent and I've been looking into celtiberian paganism for a few months now. Eventually I'd like to translate some of the spanish source material on celtiberian beliefs into english, and also collect it all in one place probably a subreddit or something, Id want it to be easily accessible but I dont know how to host websites. Ideally I'd find people to help me translate and catalog information but for now its just me.

https://www.youtube.com/user/corvusbruxonemeton is a pretty good channel. as expected he goes the anti racism route but he does argue that ancestral religions are logically practiced by people who have a claim to that ancestry.

Here's some other resources I've found in the past few months:

https://nemetonkredimi.wordpress.com/

http://www.celticahispana.com

https://goldentrail.wordpress.com (this one is in english)

http://www.celtiberia.net/es/inicio/

>>14862

yes it does, and a lot!

LOL

>>14893

Most basic "astronomical aspects" of pagan believes which even nu-pagan retards like you can understand are gods of SUN and MOON