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852 : 名無し編集部員 [sage] : 2013/11/05 (月) 11:49:01 ID: zFBtoZ5F
>>844
Well, Unei has a pretty good reason to block ● on 2ch at this point.
You cannot deny the facts that private information of 2ch users was leaked because
● was hacked and that ● was sold and operated by N.T.Technology, a company you run.
That's a pretty good reason that Unei does not fully trust you with the Rokka system.

You are supposed to rewrite the Rokka system in PHP so that Unei can maintain the code.
How is that coming along? You wrote on 10/8 that it would probably take 2 to 3 weeks
to rewrite Rokka, and it has been 4 weeks already. If you don't keep your words,
nobody around here would trust you.
854 : 名無し編集部員 [sage] : 2013/11/05 (月) 12:06:02 ID: zFBtoZ5F
>>853
What you are referring to as the "rhetoric" is a requirement by Unei.
No wonder Rokka is still blocked on 2ch. I'm disappointed.
856 : 名無し編集部員 [sage] : 2013/11/05 (月) 12:17:46 ID: zFBtoZ5F
>>855
It infuriates me that you didn't do your part and lied to us 2ch users.
If you were a mature adult, you would keep your words and have already paid
creators of 2ch browsers. I don't think Unei is particularly responsible,
but you don't strike me as somebody responsible at all.
858 : 名無し編集部員 [sage] : 2013/11/05 (月) 12:32:08 ID: zFBtoZ5F
>>856
You said you would rewrite Rokka in PHP, and you didn't. You lied.
The creators of 2ch browsers haven't been paid for years. That is irresponsible.

I personally don't trust you any more.
860 : 名無し編集部員 [sage] : 2013/11/05 (月) 12:53:48 ID: zFBtoZ5F
>>859
Well, the problem is that you don't take requirements by Unei seriously.
If Rokka cannot be rewritten in PHP, you should write a new service/system in PHP.
Remember, N.T.Technology botched the old ● system with the August leak, and you are the one who has to regain the trust of Unei.

> Personally, I doubt you ever trusted
> me. If you did, you would not be a an anonymous right now.

Hmm... That's strange. I thought Pink was an anonymous BBS just like 2ch. No?
864 : 名無し編集部員 [sage] : 2013/11/05 (月) 13:24:49 ID: zFBtoZ5F
>>861
> The code for ● to work is perl and was sent to them in September.

I am talking about the server written in Haskell.
Don't try to evade the issue here. You still haven't met the requirements.
You know that.
865 : 名無し編集部員 [sage] : 2013/11/05 (月) 13:26:50 ID: zFBtoZ5F
なんかJimも超いい加減だなあ。確信犯なんだろうけど。
871 : 名無し編集部員 [sage] : 2013/11/05 (月) 13:50:19 ID: zFBtoZ5F
>>870
> The haskell server has nothing to do with the ● login not working on 2ch.

It does. The reason why Unei is blocking Rokka on 2ch is that they don't trust
the Rokka server written in Haskell. As long as you don't rewrite the server software
in a language they understand, you don't fulfill Unei's requirement.
872 : 名無し編集部員 [sage] : 2013/11/05 (月) 13:58:41 ID: zFBtoZ5F
>>867
Jimは運営の言い分をまるで理解してないか意図的に無視してるみたいだし、駄目かもね。
なんか頑なにHaskellにこだわってるみたいだし、とても賢いとはいえないね。
874 : 名無し編集部員 [sage] : 2013/11/05 (月) 14:05:51 ID: zFBtoZ5F
>>873
It's early in the morning where I live. You really don't understand what
I'm really trying to get across. UNEI DOESN'T TRUST THE CODE YOU WROTE.
Unfortunately, that's pretty understandable given the magnitude of
the debacle in August.
877 : 名無し編集部員 [sage] : 2013/11/05 (月) 14:15:13 ID: zFBtoZ5F
>>873
Just to clarify my points:

(1) Unei doesn't trust the code you wrote in Haskell for Rokka.
(2) Therefore, the entire Rokka system, including the server software,
has to be written/rewritten in languages they understand.

>>876
Well, one of the servers you run was hacked, so you are at least partially
responsible for the leak. That's Unei's rational at least, and it is understandable IMO.
We are going around in circles because you don't understand how you are
perceived by Unei.
878 : 名無し編集部員 [sage] : 2013/11/05 (月) 14:16:51 ID: zFBtoZ5F
>>875
新● はRokkaのことだよ。Perlで書かれているのは認証の部分だけ。
880 : 名無し編集部員 [sage] : 2013/11/05 (月) 14:27:01 ID: zFBtoZ5F
>>875
> そもそも2chからJimに示された "requirements" とやらも不明だし…

これは●スレの過去ログを読めば分かるよ。
ひろゆきはRokkaは運営がメンテ出来なきゃいけないって明言してるけど、
Jimがそれを無視してHaskellで書かれたサーバーサイドのソフトウェアを
書きなおしてないってのが現状。
881 : 名無し編集部員 [sage] : 2013/11/05 (月) 14:28:27 ID: zFBtoZ5F
>>879
"In My Opinion." I guess you really need some sleep. I'll let you go for now.
884 : 名無し編集部員 [sage] : 2013/11/05 (月) 14:37:33 ID: zFBtoZ5F
>>882
Well, if you don't understand Unei's opinion, the entire 2ch will eventually leave
N.T.Technology behind. Good night.