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398 : 名無し編集部員 : 2014/02/23 (土) 05:46:40 ID: XwUnuUOM
※VIP名前欄とLR変更の経緯

8 名前:Grape Ape ★[] 投稿日:2014/02/22(土) 21:32:16.99 ID:???0
こんばんは
http://hayabusa.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/news4vip/1393071317/

以下、同スレでJIMが過去の議論スレ、票数、過去のLRなどを確認

324 名前:Grape Ape ★[] 投稿日:2014/02/22(土) 22:30:53.22 ID:???0
I am pretty much ok with changing the name for you.

名前の変更を了承

427 名前:Grape Ape ★[] 投稿日:2014/02/22(土) 22:38:23.59 ID:???0
Local rule change requires more discussion.

Now you guys need to decide what the default name will be and let me know.

LRについては議論がもう少し必要
変更後の名前については、君たちで決めて、私に知らせてくれと伝える

551 名前:Grape Ape ★[] 投稿日:2014/02/22(土) 22:45:58.39 ID:???0
Good night folks. I will read here again tomorrow.

また明日ここに来るよと宣言してVIPを去る


その後VIPで周知スレを立てて投票
http://kohada.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/vote/1393079350/

投票結果は>>4


※ということでVIPの投票は手順通り進みました
※VIPスレに行くとJIMが言っているので、このスレでは一応「報告」だけすればよいでしょう。
※今更この投票が有効か無効か、とか、名前欄変更についてJIMが対応するべきか否かなどの「議論」は、
ここではなくVIPスレなど該当スレで継続すればよいのでは?
我を通すためにちゃぶ台返しを繰り返してJIMさんを困らせないように
698 : 名無し編集部員 : 2014/02/23 (土) 10:55:04 ID: XwUnuUOM
>>676>>690
Jim-san
In 2ch boards, when we change local rules, we first changed our names to a temporal name, so that
we can tell everyone in the board that there is local rule discussion going on.

something like " original name @ we are discussing about local rules now"
I think this was not a hard rule, but a tradition of making consensus.

So now in livejupter, we were discussing about the voting to change the name "temporary".

It is a good procedure because you can tell everyone in the board that we are discussing about local rules.
The bad part is that, we need UNEI to first change our default names to some temporary name,
and then start discussing. this will be a labor for both UNEI and ppl.

So now, many guys in livejupiter is confusing that what you have said means that we can skip
this procedure and start the debate on local rule, or what you have ment was about a "permenet" name change.
706 : 名無し編集部員 : 2014/02/23 (土) 11:06:26 ID: XwUnuUOM
in addition to this, >>698
past UNEI hardley accepted Local rule changes, saying that it is not a consensus, you guys have to discuss more, even it had credibilities.
So 2ch ppl are kind of frightened that they are going to be told again that "you skipped this small procedure, so this is invalid".
I guess thats why they want to hear your comment
825 : 名無し編集部員 : 2014/02/23 (土) 14:23:27 ID: XwUnuUOM
seems livejupitor is waiting for Jim-san's answer.

Jim-san, does livejupitor must change the default name field to a tentative name to start the local rule discussion?
856 : 名無し編集部員 : 2014/02/23 (土) 14:34:59 ID: XwUnuUOM
>>834 translate

We at NandemoJikko J want to discuss Local Rules at the timeframe Mr.Jim set.
But if we don't make know to everyone that discussion is going on,
there is a possibility that someone might start saying that "I didn't know about the discussion so this decision is invalid".
So we thought that we need to change our default name field to add "Local Rule discussion ongoing".
But if Mr.Jim thinks that we don't need to change the name field and that if we discuss for 2weeks it will be fine,
then we wont change our name field and we will start discussing about Local Rule revise asap.