Anonymous ID: 7f863b Dec. 23, 2017, 11:24 a.m. No.157702   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9023 >>7722

>>155790

I agree with all you said except I think full disclosure needs to occur rapidly precisely for the SHOCK effect. People are not as fragile as everyone here seems to think. We, as a species, have had to endure the most horrifying atrocities and learn how to cope with them and figure out how to move on from there. A slow, normalization, of the shocking truth will neuter the truth of a certain potency which is necessary to shake every person to their core so they can disregard everything that keeps them from working together and make a fundamental structural and cultural change so we can enter a new paradigm. We need the equivalent of another world war, except one where knowledge is used to shatter the old structures, not bombs. Everyone needs to wake up one day to a fundamentally different world outlook that, yes, may be very disturbing, but also instills a resolve to rebuild a better society for generations to come from the ruins of a mental nuclear holocaust.

Anonymous ID: 7f863b Dec. 23, 2017, 12:28 p.m. No.158130   🗄️.is 🔗kun

Amazing post from another Anon. Hope he approves me reposting here:

 

The question before [us] is one of awful moment to this country. For my own part, I consider it as nothing less than a question of freedom or slavery; and in proportion to the magnitude of the subject ought to be the freedom of the debate. It is only in this way that we can hope to arrive at truth, and fulfill the great responsibility which we hold to God and our country.

[I]t is natural to man to indulge in the illusions of hope. We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth, and listen to the song of that siren till she transforms us into beasts. Is this the part of wise men, engaged in a great and arduous struggle for liberty? Are we disposed to be of the number of those who, having eyes, see not, and, having ears, hear not, the things which so nearly concern their temporal salvation? For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst, and to provide for it.

I have but one lamp by which my feet are guided, and that is the lamp of experience. I know of no way of judging of the future but by the past. And judging by the past, I wish to know what there has been in the conduct of the [deep state] for [decades] to justify those hopes with which gentlemen have been pleased to solace themselves…

Ask yourselves how [the] reception of our [new elected POTUS] comports with those [terror]like preparations which cover our waters and darken our land.

Are [open borders] and [reoccurring terrorist attacks] necessary to a work of love and reconciliation? Let us not deceive ourselves… These are the implements of war and subjugation; the last arguments to which king’s resort. I ask gentlemen, what means this [push for global governance by the UN, EU, and deep state actors], if its purpose be not to force us to submission? Can gentlemen assign any other possible motive for it? No, sir, she has none. They are meant for us: they can be meant for no other. They are sent over to bind and rivet upon us those chains which the [NWO] have been so long forging. And what have we to oppose to them? Shall we try argument? Sir, we have been trying that for the last ten years. Have we anything new to offer upon the subject? Nothing. We have held the subject up in every light of which it is capable; but it has been all in vain. Shall we resort to entreaty and humble supplication? What terms shall we find which have not been already exhausted? Let us not, I beseech you, sir, deceive ourselves. Sir, we have done everything that could be done to avert the storm which is now coming on.

If we wish to be free– if we mean to preserve inviolate those inestimable privileges for which we have been so long contending–if we mean not basely to abandon the noble struggle in which we have been so long engaged, and which we have pledged ourselves never to abandon until the glorious object of our contest shall be obtained–we must fight!

[The corporate media] tell us, sir, that we are weak; unable to cope with so formidable an adversary. But when shall we be stronger? Will it be the next week, or the next year? Will it be when we are totally disarmed, and when a [UN guard] shall be stationed in every house? Shall we gather strength by irresolution and inaction? Shall we acquire the means of effectual resistance by lying supinely on our backs and hugging the delusive phantom of hope, until our enemies shall have bound us hand and foot? Sir, we are not weak if we make a proper use of those means which the God of nature hath placed in our power. The millions of people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us. Besides, sir, we shall not fight our battles alone. There is a just God who presides over the destinies of nations, and who will raise up friends to fight our battles for us. The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave. There is no retreat but in submission and slavery! Our [debt] chains are forged! Their clanking may be heard on the [halls of central banks]!

The war is inevitable—and let it come! I repeat it, sir, let it come. It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace– but there is no peace. The war [has] begun! The next gale that sweeps [in] from the [sky] will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!

Anonymous ID: 7f863b Dec. 23, 2017, 12:50 p.m. No.158357   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9505

From another thread:

 

Hello Q and thank you for your recent disclosure. It's also good to see this information leaking more into the 'mainstream' of the alternative media world. However, to all Anons who have been contemplating our current plight and the condition in which we find ourselves, we need to have an important conversation regarding FULL DISCLOSURE.

 

The argument that Q team is making is the same as FBI anon. The people cannot handle the whole truth. We will only be given crumbs. 80% private 20% public. We have been given a lot of insight in these discussions and we can infer from the publicly available information enough about what is going on to understand it. But we will not be shown the evidence. It will remain classified. The system will collapse if we hear the truth. There will be revolution. There will be war.

 

I think most of us agree that certain things need to be temporarily withheld in order for the current operations to be successful. It would be prudent to ensure that all of the evil-doers who are currently in positions of power are jailed or executed prior to doing anything else. But the point that some of us would like to impress upon you (and anyone else who is capable of leaking the information) is that once that is done and the situation is secure, EVERYTHING must be disclosed.

 

This issue is far too significant to think that we can just go on like normal once the job is complete and the government operatives put the bad guys behind bars. The severity of the crimes deserve justice, but perhaps more significantly, the severity of how deeply compromised and corrupted our system can become warrants a complete and total reassessment of that system. Trusting the government to fix itself will not be sufficient. Everyone in society needs to be given the knowledge of these facts and the opportunity to fix it.

 

However, our culture is too inoculated from the truth by MSM, schooling, fake politicians, etc for the people to be significantly impacted by the memes we make from our crumbs. Their reality needs to be shattered for them to fully recognize and come to grips with the situation. The evidence of all the hardcore crimes that have been committed must be exposed for everyone in the government and society to have an accurate and complete understanding of what is going on and to realize that we must all work on a solution together. Ignorance, political affiliation, brain washing, blackmail, bribes, etc will prevent mutual cooperation unless everyone receives a SIGNIFICANT shock.

 

Every man, woman, and child needs to come face to face with this evil and realize that it exists and contemplate how it can totally compromise our system and our society. Only then will we be able to rectify the situation and do our best to prevent it from happening again and eventually bequeath that knowledge to the generations to come.

 

Some might not like me pushing that idea, but I believe it needs to be discussed and thoroughly considered by more than just the select few. Q et al are using their knowledge of this evil to do good, for now, but they will not always be here. If the evil is not fully exposed to the light, then it will resurface again in the future.

 

A number of people have made some interesting comments on this topic in the following thread:

 

https://8ch.net/cbts/res/120430.html#

 

…if the truth about what has been going on in our government is so hardcore that revealing it would threaten to collapse the current power structure, then maybe that structure needs to be rebuilt. If full knowledge of the horrors of this evil would compel every living soul to rise up against it until it is defeated, then I say, BY GOD WE MUST HAVE THAT KNOWLEDGE.