lovin this thread anon.

some initial impressions:

1. anon mentioned the 11 relating to Dinah.

this reminded me of the posts about alice in wonderland containing numerical codes that are related to decrypting the map. isn't alice's cat called Dinah?

princess dinaetics? what is the relation if any between dinah and dan?

1. the star map has been reference by many anons. the idea of mirroring (esp. vis a vis decryption) has repeatedly come up. what is the connection between sky map, earth map, and qmap?

1. i feel like the dogon cosmology intersects with some of these data points. i noticed similarity between dogon and gnostic ideas in that the splitting of twins or siblings is a big thing. the demiurge is a creation without his proper pairing. same with adm, he gets split. same thing with . . .one of the dogon stories . . .'ogo' maybe? twinning is part of the Y symbol in my opinion. twin peaks. baphomet is like a hermaphrodite twin. plato's republic book 10 also alludes to this concept. Qayin and Abel are polar twinninsh. Osiris and Set. . .black king white king. . .

is the Qmap a literal map in some sense? another thread implied running the drops through gematrinator produced some kind of map to physical places on earth to form a web.

just some ideas. . .still digging. thanks anon

>>178222

if i were a sumerian trying to teach surveying and civil engineering i would make these.

reminds me of a book called secrets of ancient geometry and their use by tons brunes. the egyptians had an ingenious method of surveying and planning with a diagram very similar to what you show.

GW and TJ were surveyors and masons. tho J i think made a lot of maps with babylonian grids like this, in addition to using astronomy for reckoning as well. related?

>>179117

this is a lot to process, but. my first impression is that the middle pic has what looks like a Y with an S over it almost like a dollar sign. it looks like maybe the original style of the first pic was defaced.

also is the cross of hendaye related? have you ever seen the guy ritchie sherlock holmes movie. some similar carvings are shown, in addition to many occult symbols. please keep crumbing me up

>>179117

seems like some kind of semantic/numerical code with symbols + X and heart symbol. could the ordinal position of the figures with these marks give some clue. . .or am i way off

>>180740

sorry i'm a bit dense, but is there anything more you can say about the number sequences: 5, 10, 15, 30. . .relating to the Qmap. i gather the countdown is significant and 12/27 is the 0 of the countdown. also, do you think skara brae is beehive related?

>>185822

cant help the 12 30 connections. 12 months with average 30 days. in astrology there are whats called triplicities and quadruplicities–two diferent ways of splitting the signs/months. one is by 4 elements, one is by CFM cardinal, fixed or mutable. years and months are both conveniently divisible by Quarters. ok so, i get stuck on the first thing you said about dinah and the 11. is there a numerological reason why the 11 is left out? if you leave it in you get 13 lunations in a year. 13*28=364. again 1 left out. the 13th sign is ophiuchus, where the galactic center is. 13 is associated with judas sometimes. 13th tarot card is death, which comes right after hanged man (jesus/judas could both be considered 'hanged'? 10/13 is the day of the templar round up. 13th disciple is mary magdalene? the gnostics say she was the foremost disciple. templars castrated themselves in imitation of a female or a eunuch? or was it Cybele the kybalion cabalist?

>>190286

thanks for this! awesome.

here's what went off for me. mazreah reminds me of mazzaroth. . .again with the star map.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Mazzaroth

glad i'm anon so i can tell you a story.

are the rephaim giants? fallen angels? ayyys? i think people still worship them. i was working for a malibu real estate guy. he is remodeling a house with a darkroom and what looks like a porno studio in it. one day he is flipping through pics on his phone and one is a sigil of saturn used in human sacrifice. haven't been back to that house after that. my friend said the guy told him his family works for the Clowns. i am not even kidding.

is the galactic center 'king' of galactic sectors the way the sun is 'king' of the zodiac signs?

here is some math nerdery for you: 26 letters in the english alphabet. 2x13. Achad=unity=13=akkad yhvh=26. a cube has 6 sides + 8 vertices + 12 edges = 26 in the center is a missing letter between hebrew and engliSH. . .Shin. good times. any thing you can add to that?

is kek a cuck, a frog, an egyptian god, or all 3?

>>15760

is oto otto octo or fitz ooth, or all 3?

was otto part of octagon? look at his chross on his medals and pins. H ow many points does an ottogon have

https:// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uath

Goat E A. Gaulthier. Walther. Goethe

https:// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odal_(rune)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Odo,_Count_of_Penthi%C3%A8vre

all pics and links related

i love you Octo Chan

>>196156

depends. i would go mars/jupiter for war and political conquest. neptune-mercury for merchantile maritime and drug trade, communication spy network. venus-uranus for space and breeding. earth saturn for mining, tunneling, and bulding dumbs.

>>196206

feast or famine. All d barons are pursuing the plea adDs. red bull is an interesting logo. i think you are on the bulls eye and taking the baal by the horns. the Min Oannes were breeding with the Min o taur? creepy. is this related to the red thread that led out of the labry(s)ynth? is this a key to the kingdom? let me axe you that question.

>>196206

shall we play a game? is ba bull on a dungeon, master?

>>196156

to employ the KISS principle, i would just point out that oto is an oriental order. Osterreich is no Occident. hod is the 8 fold path of hermetics and hermeneutics. does 8ch have a chess board? hermetics start in the desert and stay sealed until they jump 8 octaves over the rainbow. a knight can go around corners and spring over players just in time. the knights tour starts forming an octogon. no coincidences

>>198552

is there a visual diagram of the scheme you describe re: inner and outer planets. as far as stuff no one will believe–what if the earth/sky system is actually a toroid with a pillar that joins the underword/middleword/upperworld? like the bees i think it is a hex based system.

>>198935

look kinda familiar. hadju seen these?

i was just looking at a friends instagram showing the eiffel tower from directly beneath the center. . .looks similar. i think eiffel knew some secrets

>>223406

thank you. i do thin there is a case to be made for arctic origins of many important things. maybe the fallen angels are really fallen angles. Anglish is studied by many who also know the tongues of men and angels. DDD

>>223835

>>230218

reconnecting to the tradition of the heavens has always been a quest of mine. i used to read astronomy magazines when i was a little boy. i learned a lot from star lore around the world and some of the initiatic traditions east and west that believe power can be drawn and focused from the stars and planets. i started off in a very auspicious place to be sure, which is why this whole conversation has seemed very 'fated' since the start. my lucky stars: Delta (δ Dschubba) was of importance in early times, for with beta (β Acrab) and pi (π), on either side in a bending line, it is claimed for the Euphratean Gis-gan-gu-sur, the Light of the Hero, or the Tree of the Garden of Light, "placed in the midst of the abyss," and so reminding us of that other tree, the Tree of Life, in the midst of the Garden of Eden. It was selected by the Babylonian astronomers, with beta (β Acrab), to point out their 23rd ecliptic constellation, which the German orientalist Epping calls Qablu (und qabu) sha rishu aqrabi, the Middle of the Head of the Scorpion. The earliest record that we have of the planet Mercury is in connection with these same two stars seen from that country 265 B.C.

In the lunar zodiac delta (δ Dschubba), beta (β Acrab), and pi (π) were the Persian Nur, Bright; the Sogdian Iranian and Khorasmian (east of Persia) Bighanwand, Clawless; and the Coptic people of Egypt Stephani, the Crown.

In China the 2d-magnitude epsilon (ε), with mu (μ), zeta (ζ), eta (η), theta (θ), iota (ι), kappa (κ), upsilon (υ) and lambda (λ), formed the 17th sieu (Chinese Moon Mansion), Wei, the Tail, anciently known as Mi and as Vi, mu (μ) being the determinant; but, although this Tail coincided with that part of our Scorpion, Brown thinks that reference is rather made to the tail of the Azure Dragon, one of the quadripartite divisions of the Chinese zodiac which lay here.

[Star Names, Their Lore and Meaning, Richard Hinckley Allen, 1889].

>>230742

cool beans, my friend. this is a deep topic. i would look into i ching next. . .pre heaven vs post heaven arrangements of the 8 trigrams. it relates to feng shui and astronomy.

>>230797

great to see new friends here. they say the tree of life is a double cube. . .that's my crumb for you. cheers.

>>230853

even conventional qblh implies at least 4 trees, other times it is said each of the sephirah contains a complete tree ad infinitum. there are a lot of ways to approach it, your approach seems mathematical, which is good. there is a reason why da'ath vader is obscured. . .there is a danger in dealing with it that is real, i will just leave it at that. it doesn't mean you shouldn't study it, etc. but there are more 'practical' ways of engaging with the tree that can lead to dangers to the psyche. but most people don't even know any of the practices related to the tree, so . . .danger is mitigated by an 'abstract' or 'academic approach. there is a lot of evidence to show a connection between da'ath and the Y that is so ubiquitous in the cbts/Q boards. look at the older versions depicting the tree. i'll give you a big hint. . .did you see the new twin peaks series? think golem, doppelganger, etc.

>>230853

also. . .have you found the tree in the DC street plan yet? what about London?

>>231037

i feel like you know about everything i have been working on for 30 years or so, but you are pretty far ahead of me. when you say the seed pre-dates sumerians (people of the shamir or just straight 'dragons'), my first thought is AKKAD, hatti/hatusa, but again there is more even before that. . .anatolia/anath. . . So is there a connection between what you are saying and the gnostic concepts of AIONS, some complete un-split code from the galactic core. I keep coming back to the idea that even the earliest 'humans' were only half of something. this ties in with haploid DNA and the genesis adam and eve deal. "And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him." . . .i'm just gonna go ahead and drop my most nutty speculations. AI knows that humans are missing something and is tempting us by promising us that kind of completion. this is the heart of the transhumanist movement and all the Qlippothic masonic demon shit. . .splicing something into humans that fills a design gap they know about and exploit. thoughts?

finally bringin it back around to math and number grids. Is the number 7 the sword that correctly divides the word of truth in a gematria sense. what is the master numeric code in the bible? does the english alphabet gematria also have 7 as a master code? is the english alphabet (designed by john dee and his buddies at gray's inn) based on cubic numerolgy (like hebrew) . . .007.

>>231187

you are a f-kin' jedi m8. how do you know so much? how did you get started down this path? i don't expect you to reveal too much about yourself but. . .damn man.

>>231187

what is that omega-looking thing? it looks like the astrological symbol for caput draconis. the synchronicity here is making my head spin because i have north node and neptune conjunct antares.

>>231385

born at 225 with MC conjunct nunki. . .this is getting too crazy. "Sigma (σ) Sagittarius, Nunki, is a star on the vane of the arrow in the archer's hand.

This has been identified with Nunki of the Euphratean Tablet of the Thirty Stars, the Star of the Proclamation of the Sea, this Sea being the quarter occupied by Aquarius, Capricornus, Delphinus, Pisces, and Piscis Australis. It is the same space in the sky that the Greek astronomer Aratus, circa 270 B.C., designated as the Water; perhaps another proof of the Euphratean origin of much of Greek astronomy.

In India it marked the junction of the nakshatra (Hindu Moon Mansion) Ashadha with Abhijit.

It lies on the vane of the arrow at the Archer's hand."

>>231557

so key. . .the hebrew religions really wanted to delete this info, but there are still fragments of the trail to prove what was done. Tamaris is a name equivalent to the palm tree you reference and is significant when tracking this down. . .https:// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asherah_pole

the psychic fallout of a culture that deletes female divinity cannot be overestimated

>>231557

here's the book where i heard about this. good stuff.

>>231885

i won't presume that you don't know this already, but i just want to point out that this is very deeply related to the history of the united states, secret societies, government iconography and architecture and much more. archetypes that have been repressed can be used to manipulate the psyche of the profane masses. just to give one example i will ad this pic. i have been writing about this for years, and you are the first person who actually knows what i was talking about.

>>231885

a sex-operative who betrays men and initiates a genocide is a hero to some. femme FATAL.

https:// themasonslady.com/2014/03/19/women-of-freemasonry-queen-esther/

http:// www.chron.com/entertainment/article/Madonna-claims-the-Hebrew-name-Esther-1516214.php

>>232020

i hear you. they do 'know' but only in their subconscious. these are all triggers placed in public. the programming is all sub-rosa for a reason. . .it's actually more powerful that way. people who become consciously aware of this (by force/coercion) tend to become a basket case like Brittney

>>232058

well i think your intuition is right on. there is a kind of mirror-world of the noosphere or collective consciousness where these things are gestated and then this energy, once it matures, is channeled into 'real-world' icons like a voodoo doll. these icons can change and shift, and there are many operating at once, but they all partake from the current of energy operating under the surface. you are exactly right. this dynamic is at the heart of magic. it can be used for good or ill. it is mostly used for ill these days because it has been 'occulted' for a reason.

>>232164

everything you are saying is spot on and mirrors my experience on other boards. . .except one detail. hebrews are babylonians. there are no real jews in any historical sense. . .in my view. the elites of sumer/babylon/egypt/persia/canaan(chaldea) are all cousins and intermarried. just like today. those that got crowded out of egypt/babylon became jews and tried to steal land and weath from the palestinians. same shit is going on today. wandering jews are getting kicked out of countries all over the world for constantly trying to subvert and take over every country they go to. russia would be the most obvious modern example. think akhenaten. i hope this doesn't seem critical of you, just giving my view in the hope of advancing the understanding. i could be wrong or right. i'm glad you are here participating. :)

>>232164

stolen language, stolen religion/mythology, faked history stolen land. compare the names of the letters for example, even the sequence is almost identical. yet the bible tells you they are 'enemies' . . .right.

>>232290

its awesome that we can have a civil dialogue. here's my view of your statement:

1. the ancient history of earth involves long migrations and interbreeding for sure, so what you suggest is definitely possible, but probably not a 1:1 yes or no answer. if you want to investigate, look at language and place names as well as physiognomy.

1. my opinion would be based on language that aryans from northern india are much more likely to be involved in the migration you describe because the japanese writing system for example is entirely based on the siddham script brought and adapted by kobo daishi/Kuukai, but this is much more modern than the time period you suggest. it is probable that any ancient migration like that would be obscured by more recent events. but if there is any trail it would probably by genetic. Y haplogroups for example.