Q provides cryptic numeric clues suggests there is a map involved, much head scratching ensues therefore a guide to help out there.

Let's consider the simple numeric sequence 5+10+15=30 what could this mean we ask ourselves and in terms of known quantities it could refer to a month or the orbital period of Saturn, given an interesting conjugation of the latter took place at the Winter solstice perhaps that, but it can be realized that others have had an interest in the same sequence, to wit the Hebrews and their schematic of Israel and the Heavenly Temple.

They were fond of laying out the twelve tribal patriarchs around squares whether in desert encampments or idealized Heavenly cities and indeed the Christian Book of Revelations also ends with the Heavenly Temple becoming established upon Earth, but what is really meant by that?

The Hebrew mathematics are very clever, they involve the numbers 1 to 13 excluding 11 who in the Genesis narrative is understood as the 11th born child of Israel a daughter, namely Dinah, thus the narrative was written with sums in mind, but there was a much earlier basis for this tradition of the Heavenly Square, to the Sumerians it was the Field Constellation or Pegasus square and it was a basic unit of measure that could be subdivided, thus a basis of mathematics also and as a field the sum of all elements of creation, a periodic table as it were, from it Enki and Ninhursag were understood to have produced life and indeed planted a tree of such within it that extended through the constellations upwards towards Sirius.

The Hebrew tradition then only concerns itself with the twelve tribes of Israel as related to the square, whereas the Sumerian tradition understood all organic lifeforms as emergent from it and it was seen as that place of first establishment from were land had emerged from the waters of the Ap-Su, Enki had a certain frog that served him at the Ap-Su Temple related to this transition and the same was established in Egypt were the Ogdoad are concerned with the place of first establishment and the cult of Osiris as Tree God within that field as seen in the House of Life schematic resembling the Hebrew Heavenly Temple.

http://www.reshafim.org.il/ad/egypt/institutions/house_of_life.htm

The Egyptian tradition was established by the Uruk sphere from 3,600 BC onwards and that dating back to Ubaid culture but we need back even earlier to source this tradition to the Halaf period some 8,000 years ago.

Illustrated are the first produced seals on Earth, but what do they means and why were they produced?

A seal implies ownership, an impression upon Earth impressed from above, the seals in effect are the first maps, they relate to a schematic sub-division of the Earth, this requires an overview and the suggestion in correlating this to the Pegasus square is that as above then so below, in that the Heavens are also mapped out and subdivided, and that thus Heavenly order has de facto been established also upon Earth.

The seals seen from a certain perspective also provided the archetype of the classic disc shaped UFO, a sub-conscious suggestion of the Heavenly order of the above.

Seals continued to develop as key symbolic markers related to the Anunna Deities and any re-establishment of the Heavenly Temple upon Earth will inevitably involve such.

http://www.persee.fr/doc/paleo_0153-9345_2010_num_36_1_5316

To put the Q initiative and Trump Presidency into perspective first it had to be established and promoted that there was an alternative to Jewish religious and cultural dominance, that indeed their monopolization was entirely self serving and in direct opposition to the first initiative and entirely unacceptable, this suggestion was implanted through their spooks and minions in terms of generating an information feedback to the influential figures within the esoteric establishment, and offering them an alternative to their supposed partners that were in effect orchestrating their genocide, in effect the most distant past will determine our future.

For the past two thousand years or so the Sun at the vernal equinox has been passing through the constellation Pisces, from the fish to the dove/swallow, and also translating from one corner star of the Pegasus square to the other, this related to the Atargatis mythos.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atargatis

>The star-map indicates that the setting of this myth and its participants are not, in fact, of this earth, but are to be found in the heavens. What is of pivotal importance is the identity of the ‘river Euphrates’. Apart from the earthly river, the ‘Euphrates’ can also be found on the star-map where it is closely associated with the watery outflow joined to the Swallow.

>This heavenly river actually runs parallel to the course of the ecliptic and now that this fact is established, the action of the fish can be better understood – they escort the sun (the mythical egg) from its lowest point at the solstice and guide it onto its ascending path that leads towards the spring and ‘dry land’, which is represented on the star-map by the constellation of the Field.

In effect an egg was laid over two thousand years ago, an idea, and that has been translating through space and time to the place were it can be hatched, this was the basis for Christianity but also relates to the Egyptian tradition of return to the place of first creation.

>Then appeared on the scene a large company of divine beings…the whole company was then divided into four groups; each group was placed along one side of the bw-titi…Thereafter the snake was overthrown and the victorious gods are said to have settled beside him…The divine powers who were believed to have acted in this phase of creation were the deities who took part in the former process

>The Place-for-crushing resembled a ifdw [four sides] of the divine shelter (nwt) within that domain

>>178966

It's a mathematical substitution in the same sense that there were 13 disciples as one we can consider the 11th was replaced.

There are some simple derivations from this system;

13 children born to four mothers, the sum of intergers of 13 being 91, gives the simple equation of 4 (mothers) x 91 (value of children)=364…thus as the 91 days of the 4 seasons, to these can be added Jacob the father to make 365.

one could also simply multiply the number of mothers, 4, by the number of children, 13, to get the 52 weeks in a year.

The connection of Qmap is to the numeric grid system which relates to the Heavens and is also established on Earth, a numeric matrix.

>>179007

I could demonstrate the actual numeric matrix but as an example of such signs being used in a symbolic sense take the supposed Templar etchings of Royston in England, what is seen will be an esoteric schemata of the New Jerusalem in terms of the grid.

>>179022

Yes we like numbers divisible by 5, well spotted…

Cycles = Earth years =Venus orbits =(Earth+Venus) =(Venus-Earth)

1…………..8……………….13…………………..21……………….5

5………….40………………65…………………105………………25

10…………80………………130………………..210………………50

>>179214

It is a lot to process but there is also a certain key, this relates to 15(+/-25)40, even that as 1.5 X 2 +2.5 X 2=8.

Of course the Cross of Hendaye relates to these traditions.

>>179382

No you're on the right track, the heart in the hand symbol relates to Orion which is seen in conjunction as Saint Christopher

https://templars.wordpress.com/2007/05/29/the-secret-of-the-holy-grail-here-in-royston/

An eye in the hand was the common Orion motif of the Americas, the heart in the hand a variant of that, also related to the Hamsa hand, it relates to a Heavenly portal.

>The Southeastern Ceremonial Complex (traditionally Southern Death Cult, later also as Southern Cult or Chiefly Warfare Cult) is the name given to the regional stylistic similarity of artifacts, iconography, ceremonies, and mythology of the Mississippian culture that coincided with their adoption of maize agriculture and chiefdom-level complex social organization from 1200 CE to 1650 CE

>The Hand and Eye Motif is a human hand with an eye gazing out from the palm, yet another symbol of deity. It was one of the most common motifs in Mississippian symbolism and may be related to the Ogee Motif, suggesting it represents a portal to the Otherworld.

>The path traveled is to the west toward the setting sun and according to the now understood legends, the trip lasts four or more days. During the trip there are some choice points where the soul can decide to return to its body. But when it reaches the edge of the disk of the earth it stands at a watery shore, with the underworld below the watery surface and the upper realm above in the night sky. If the soul chooses to go to the realm of the dead (located through the sky above) it must make a journey across the sky but must first make a leap of faith from the earth into the sky into a small portal located in an area Native tribes called the “Hand Constellation.”

>“The portal in the hand must be entered by a leap at the optimum time, which is a ten minute window which occurs once each night from November 29, when the hand vanishes into the water (the underworld) in the West just at dawn, to April 25, when the hand sinks at dusk not to be seen again for six months

>The Hand Constellation is actually the bottom half of the Orion Constellation. The three belt stars represent a severed wrist. A host of Native tribal legends and practices discuss the severed hand and how it happened. Legends say that an attempt was made to catch souls entering the portal and the hand was cut off..

>>179520

Correct, the actual intersection point of the ecliptic and galactic planes is above the raised hand of Orion, traditionally that was seen as the entrance into the other or under world, as in onwards through the portal of Gemini.

The opposing point close to Antares and Scorpio was seen as the point of re-emergence.

>>179542

>>179635

Rotate 90 degrees anti-clockwise?

>>179667

The secret of the Bees…

>>179716

And the oldest examples of the heart/eye in the

Earliest examples of heart/eye in the hand symbolism relate to the hive structure.

> Mucen Cab generally appears in Mayan art with the wings of a bee, usually outstretched either in the process of landing or taking off.

>Honey was an important part of the diet in most Mesoamerican cultures, as well as a vital trade product, so Ah Mucen Cab was an important deity in the Mayan pantheon. The Mayan word for "honey" was also the same as the word for "world," so the honey god Ah Mucen Cab was also involved with the creation of the world.

>Honey was an important part of the diet in most Mesoamerican cultures, as well as a vital trade product, so Ah Mucen Cab was an important deity in the Mayan pantheon. The Mayan word for "honey" was also the same as the word for "world," so the honey god Ah Mucen Cab was also involved with the creation of the world.

>Images of what archaeologists believe is Ah Mucen Cab appear throughout the ruins of Tulum. Here Ah Mucen Cab appears as a "descending" god, with outstretched wings as he comes in for a landing. Archaeologists believe that Ah Mucen Cab was the patron of Tulum and that the region produced a lot of honey. Some honeys are toxic and produce psychoactive effects. It's possible that consumption of such honeys were integrated into worship of Ah Mucen Cab.

>>179798

>“But I will tell you another thing, Son of all- glorious Maia and Zeus who holds the aegis, luck-bringing genius of the gods. There are certain holy ones, sisters born – three virgins gifted with wings: their heads are besprinkled with white meal, and they dwell under a ridge of Parnassus. These are teachers of divination apart from me … From their home they fly now here, now there, feeding on honey-comb and bringing all things to pass. And when they are inspired through eating yellow honey, they are willing to speak truth; but if they be deprived of the gods' sweet food, then they speak falsely, as they swarm in and out together.”

>The Greek word for ‘fate’, ‘death’ and ‘goddess of death’ is ‘e ker’ (feminine); the word for’heart’ and ‘breast’ is ‘to ker’ (neuter); while the word for ‘honeycomb’ is ‘to kerion’ (neuter). The common root ‘ker’ links the ideas of the honeycomb, goddess, death, fate and the human heart, a nexus of meanings that is illumined if we know that the goddess was once imagined as a bee.”

>A cavern pleasant, though involved in night, Beneath it lies, the Naiades delight: Where bowls and urns of workmanship divine And massy beams in native marble shine;

>On which the Nymphs amazing webs display, Of purple hue and exquisite array, The busy bees within the urns secure Honey delicious, and like nectar pure.

>Perpetual waters through the grotto glide,

A lofty gate unfolds on either side; that to the north is pervious to mankind: The sacred south t'immortals is consign'd."

>>179895

Tara, here the open downward pointing right hand offers blessings, potential gifts, correspondance to rising in the East, the Left hand correspondent to setting in the West offers protection, sanctuary, within the Underworld. The translation in dance of the hand gestures represents the passage through time and space.

>>179907

Yes what you find with the Bee cult is that it's closely related to the understanding of the world grid energy system, were the Bee's know the secrets of the pathways in the same sense they know the location of the flowers of the forest.

>>179987

The role of the Bee in the Hittite myth of the restoration of Telipinu is interesting, were the Earth Goddess Hanna-Hanna engages the services of such, it relates to the hunting God and his lost bag.

Telepinu was the personification of the Divine child and represented harmonious balance, in his sulking absence nothing is quite right;

it should be noted the analogous way in which chaos infiltrates into the divine body of Telepinu, he does not so much die as subsume himself into the wilderness;

The body of Telepinu could be equated with that big house which constituted the entire cosmos, a house which falls into darkness and unease, and so the great Gods seek him out in order to facilitate his return, but cannot pass the threshold into his magical realm were he has taken himself, until the Mother Goddess sends the bee to seek him out.

At Lihzina was the Palace of the Sun Goddess of the Earth, the Mother of Telepinu, and there the bee found evidence for him in the form of the hunting bag, stinging him into activity and cleansing him with wax, it improved his mood with sweet offerings and prepared a path back to the civilized world.

When the bee finds the kursa, the bee brings it to Hanna-hanna. The Mother Goddess makes three springs; at one is an ippya-tree, at another a bowl, and at the last a fire is kindled. in this grove are three springs and an ippiya-tree.

>The kursa is either hung upon an oak or is laid in the bowl. The time of need is ended with the return of the kursa

>You, O bee, should look for Telepinu. And when you find him, sting him on his hands and feet. Make him stand up. Take wax and wipe off his eyes and his hands. Purify him and bring him back to me.’”

>…the bee searched the high mountains; it searched the deep valleys; it searched the Blue Deep. The honey was exhausted in its interior, But it found him in a meadow in the town of Lihzina

>“I have just sprinkled your paths, Telepinu, with sweet oil. Set out, Telepinu, on paths sprinkled with sweet oils.

>May Telepinu’s anger, wrath, sin, and sullenness depart. May the house release it. May the middle… release it. May the window release it. May the hinge release it. May the middle courtyard release it. May the city gate release it. May the gate complex release it. May it not go into the fruitful field, garden, or forest. May it go the route of the Sun Goddess (of the Dark Earth).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telipinu_(mythology)

>>180021

The pyramids were based upon the sacred mountain of the horizon which was the zodiacal light, but they were also a three dimensional expression of the numeric grid in the form of ascending concentric squares, the same as per the ziggurats

The known chamber levels are the Queens chamber on the 25th level and the Kings on the 50th, overall the pyramid was constructed of 210 sandstone levels, this is how that relates to the numeric matrix;

the sum of intergers of 20 relates well to the key figures of the Earth/Venus cycle, and also therefore to the design of the Great Pyramid, as this is 210 sandstone masonry courses in height (ABCD), has shafts leading toward the 90th level (D) from the 'Queens Chamber' and shafts leading toward the 105th level (B+C)&(A+D) from the 'Kings Chamber' the respective chambers are set on the 25th course (D-C) and (B-A) and upon the 50th course (C-A) & (D-B).

The exact same figures can also be read off a numeric arrangement of five inlaid squares, with the sum of intergers of 4,12,20,28,36 set around them, a concept that if presented in 3D form would of course present itself as a simple stepped monument, such as the pyramid ideology was based upon.

There's a curious approach to mathematics involved in all of this.

>>180095

The bag symbolized return because of the arc of the handle being understood to connect the Eastern and Western horizons, constellations could be seen mirrored in terms of the bag, ie the same seen in the East and West.

>>180194

Yes and it all relates to the sum of intergers, were the sum of 36 is 666 for example.

>>180194

The numerics while equating with Earth/Venus orbital relationship also correlate to the Fibonacci sequence of 5,8,13,21

>>180327

I guess in a sense their whole system is set four square around Jacob, i don't think they developed the system though only adapted it for their own usage, they related the twelve tribal patriarchs also to the constellations which the original would have related to from an Earth centric perspective, were Jupiter provided the basis for that division of the ecliptic given its 12 year orbital period, thus advancing one constellation sign per year.

The derivative numerics of the system relate to 40 year Earth/Venus periodics as well as 30 year orbital periods of Saturn so the system was created by people interested in astronomy, which excludes the Hebrews.

The six pointed star which is derivative of the arrangement related to Jupiter/Saturn conjugations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_conjunction

>>180506

I think that's pretty much it, that the Hebrews derived their numeric system and tribal basis from the Babylonians, but with regards to the sub-division of the Field (constellation) that's older and Sumerian and still forms the basis for expectations regarding New Jerusalem.

The Field constellation related to specific units of area and measure in it's Earthly correspondence of the mundane field, the measure for such a field was 60 ĝiri3 × 60 ĝiri3, were a ĝiri3 or step measure was reckoned as 2 cubits, so the field measure was also 120 x 120 cubits with 14,400 area.

The basis then for calculating the redeemed was pretty much involved with how many could be contained within a field, but it gets more interesting than that, as there was also the The GAN2 system G counting system evolved into area measurements. A special unit measuring brick quantity by area was called the brick-garden,which held 720 bricks.

A nice system, we can deduce that in our idealized garden we could arrange 720 patio bricks, this also extends to the Field measure which was the equivalent of 100 gardens, so that you could lay out 72,000 patio bricks within a field.

The brick of course had extended symbolic associations in Sumerian culture, just as man was created from the mud then so was the brick, and the sacred birth brick had an important ritual function with any new born, including the new creation in the Atra Hasis myth, so it isn't difficult to realize that in any Mesopotamian tradition relating to the redeemed within the field they could be counted as bricks, though there is no such explicit tradition, the actual number for that being 72,000, with 144,000 you'd be talking half bricks.

We're more likely to see the establishment of the New Uruk…

>>180450

It does relate to hollow Earth theory in the sense of an Earth energy matrix generated by the internal energies of such, the Sun Goddess of Arinna.

>>180669

You can see in the OP that sometimes an internal court of 12 gates was also envisaged, so you could have an arrangement for 12 disciples as well as for 12 tribes if so desired, the Temple in Revelations is given as 12,000 stadia square, thus with an area of 144,000,000

>>182662

Only that i related the numeric sequence to the Breastplate of Judgement, thus the digits involved relate to tribes of Israel and constellations, there is also a colour code the sum of 30 relates to the orbital periodic of Saturn.

>>189981

It's at the basis of our measurement of time and angles as the Sumerian Base 60 is the first common divisor of 12 and 30, hence the demarcations of the clock face.

Dinah should always be counted as one of the 13 children of Israel of course, it's just that their numeric schemes related to squares always left her out though she can be considered as a factor regarding an increase by one in the numeric values of Joseph and Benjamin, the 12th and 13th born, so yes 4 x 13 gives the months of the year.

There was and is also the highly important and secretive Semitic tradition of the Marzeah a private and sacred gathering of 12 individuals led by a 13th the leader of the feast and the role of the given King, the 13 represented Divine archetypes, Strabo described it thus;

>They – the Nabataeans – prepare common meals together in groups of thirteen persons; and they have two girl-singers for each banquet. The king holds many drinking bouts in magnificent style, but no one drinks more than eleven cupfuls, each time using a different golden cup. The king is so democratic that, in addition to serving himself, he sometimes even serves the rest himself in turn

The institution of the Mazreah is know from the 3rd millenium BCE;

>Eblaite texts from the third millennium BCE refer to the day of marzea and a text mentions the superintendent of the mar-za-u This word is mentioned frequently in the Ugaritic sources, including a reference to ‘house of the men of the mar-ze-ah

Traditionally this elite group would be presided over by an actual King and 12 notables;

>The marzea was a banquet and association whose participants were mostly among the high-rank officials, and was comprised mostly of males, as indicated by Strabo It was an association of a group who had a specific deity as its patron. Each marzeaÌ was led by a rb mrz Ì’ who was responsible for managing and organizing the meeting, which was held in special places designed for this purpose. Basically, each had its own patron deity, Bel in Palmyra and Dushara in Nabataea. The Nabataeans constructed rock-cut triclinia for these funerary and religious festivals and meetings. These dining and banqueting halls were constructed to celebrate the feast of the dead

>In biblical time the spirits called upon were not so much the spirits of the newly deceased as spirits from a far and distant past. The rephaim are little spirits of fertility

>Like other demons they are living in and moving through "the air" at which they arrive after a 3-day journey from the underworld. Like the cheres, little chaotic spirits coming to Athens to celebrate the spring festival of Anthesteria and drink of the new wine led by their Lord Dionysos, so the rephaim arrive from the realm of death led by Baal to eat and drink for 7 days.

>The Liturgy of the sacrifices of darkness-"You are summoned oh rephaim of the underworld" . But apart from the rephaim also some past and present kings are summoned, and the king is invited to descend with Shapshu (the sun) to the underworld. During this (ritual?) descent to the realm of death 7 sacrifices are brought - and a bird (as sacrifice?). It is not possible to deny a strong connection between the often rather rich and lodge-like marzeah institutions in the West Semitic area and the cult of the rephaim invited to marzeah

https://biblicalstudies.org.uk/pdf/stinespring-fs/pope.pdf

http://www.gailallen.com/rel/langkjer/1-21.html

>>190663

The Rephaim were ancestral/nature spirits, the manner in which they were understood to have survived the fllod was through Noah engaging in a Marzeah as it were, through getting drunk in the same manner as the Marzeah of El, and the spirits of the dead returning.

>The name of the planet Saturn is in West Semitic KVN, "standing firm" "standing upright" about the world pillar, The temple for Resheph was full of obelisks standing in the temple yard, in our opinion an assembly of gods. Uranos invented, according to Philo of Byblos, "animated stones", the so-called baityloi or Betels (bet = "house", el = "god"). The many baityloi standing in the sacred temple yard next to the holy lake are the souls of the leading men of Byblos passed over into a state of eternity as "'ilim (= gods)". In Ugarit "'ilim" is used as a parallel to "rephaim". . El Cronos = Resheph was surrounded by a circle of "allied eloim (=gods)"

The center is always the Earth centric perspective and yes in terms of a gnomon the Suns relationship to such.

n the Ugaritic texts it is Habyon the horned Devil that arises from the Underworld as the doors are opened as El descends through drunkenness, and there was the association of El as Chronos/Saturn with the Sun, and there is in essence an axis raised were the King has descended into the depths whilst Habyon has ascended the heights, similar to the raising of the Djed column in Egypt.

I once knew the value of all words counted in terms of both the regular numbers or as the singular digits, eg WE=23+5=28, 2+3+5=10, (2+8=10, 1=0=1) through such method they could be arranged into a numeric ordering and nine section narrative, i then decided the world was not yet ready for such autism.

>>191170

Yes correct zero is not a quantity, again for example ADAM=1+4+1+13=19 (1+9=10. 1+0=1) and 1+4+1+1+3=10 (1+0=1), through such method all words can be reduced to 9 sections, ADAM having the value 19/10 in section One the number it breaks down to.

An obelisk simply allows one to take ones bearings with regards to time and space, as in centred.

>>191386

The finding of pathways and creation of hidden networks was in former times the bees job, the Herm stone was an aspect of the cult of Bacchus and Dionysous as well as the Marzeah.

>>191509

There was an obelisk at Heliopolis/ON, and Bees.

>And bees came up from the cells of the comb, and they were white as snow, and their wings were irridescent – purple and blue and gold; [11] and they had golden diadems on their heads and sharp-pointed strings. And all the bees flew in circles round Aseneth, from her feet right up to her head; and yet more bees, as big as queens, settled on Aseneth's lips. And the man said to the bees, "Go, please, to your places." 16. And they all left Aseneth and fell to the ground, every one of them, and died. And the man said, "Get up now, and go to your place;" and they got up and went, every one of them, to the court round Aseneth's tower.

http://markgoodacre.org/aseneth/translat.htm

>>191582

That's the basis of the most important question really, if there is a grid matrix across the Earth then where is the true centre, where should we erect our obelisk, there are various claims, Rome, Paris, London, perhaps joining those in a line would help…

>>191709

That's correct the line would originate in Nubia and pass through Egypt, if such a line is determined then how and where for example would the Washington obelisk intersect with it and where else would that pass through, perhaps some cunning plan involved.

>>195252

If you wished to found a mighty Empire which direction would you choose according to Ogdoad wisdom tradition…?

>>191789

They're conflating Aseneth a little with Hathor there and her seven glamorous assistants related to the Pleiades, though to be fair they were the seven fat and skinny cows also.

>>196304

That's pretty much it but don't forget to place a bet on Venezuela winning Miss World.

Of course it's the key to the Kingdom, the four planets of the inner solar system located in terms of angles correspondent to orbital periods and the four of the outer providing numeric balance amongst other things, it's very secret but fortunately no one will believe it possible.

The double axe is interesting relating to casting culture, Nergal started off as a miner and smelter then became the causation of death personified eventually having forced his way into the Underworld.

>>198664

The first iconography i consider illustrates such is around 8,000 years ago from the Halaf period/region, not only based on an eight directional schematic related to the planets but also with a framework of twelve constellation matrix.

>>204081

>Unfortunate is the one who fails to see in reality what he is being made to see, who is unable to imagine that: from plans to plans” (C.-N. Ledoux)

>Architect Ledoux creates buildings, like Prometheus making people from clay and giving each creation a spark of the fire of life. An architect uses visual metaphors: he depicts a human eye in which an interior of a theater is reflected. It is a symbol of interaction of the social environment with the architectural surrounding. Besides, this is a symbol of the all-seeing eye, which Ledoux mentions in his treatise many times

http://etsavega.net/dibex/Ledoux-Chaux-e.htm

http://www.cloud-cuckoo.net/openarchive/wolke/eng/Subjects/021/Makhneva/Makhneva.htm

Endings and beginnings, given this thread is largely concerned with the numeric and geometric patterns of creation and all that occur within such let's consider the speculation with regards to the end of the world.

That was always related to the end of the great precessional age when it was supposed that all of creation would somehow begin again, Mesopotamian and Iranian and Indian and Greek and Roman all agreed the the great age had begun and would end at 0 degrees Aries from which they counted their lunar, solar and Astral cycles, not surprisingly then there was a great deal of speculation regarding such when 0 degrees Aries was at the Vernal equinox, over two thousand years ago, and strangely people still continued with the same speculation despite the event having passed.

What they failed to consider is how does life continue itself, how is it born again?

The answer of course relates to the birds and the bees, in Mesopotamia 0 Degrees Aries was understood as Astral Dumizi, that was ever side by side with Anunitum the fish of Pisces as the astral representation of Inanna, the Celestial placement of the sacred marriage at that magical divide.

https://www.academia.edu/4039624/Astral_Dumuzi

The act of reproduction understood to occur at 0 degrees Aries then gives rise to the egg myth of Atargatis which passes through the constellation Pisces and from one side of the square of Pegasus to the other, and then hatches at the end of that age, but what shall be the nature of the hatchling?

All words ending in "ing" are sacred to Yngvi.

>In Norse mythology, Yngvi, alternatively spelled Yngve, was the progenitor of the Yngling lineage, a legendary dynasty of Swedish kings, from whom also the earliest historical Norwegian kings claimed to be descended. Yngvi is a name of the god Freyr, perhaps Freyr's true name, as freyr means 'lord' and has probably evolved from a common invocation of the god.

>Inguz – “Ing-guz” – Literally: “Seed” or “The god, Ing” – Esoteric: Process, space

>Inguz is that potential energy that must accumulate gradually in storage before being released as a single surge of energy. It represents the process of a mental ‘seed’ desire implanted by the conscious mind into the subconscious for incubation and gestation, later to emerge as a new creation in your life affairs. Inguz governs the process of seed into catalyst, and the self-sacrifice of one form to bring into being a new form, and the characteristics inherited because of this transformation.

>Thus, Inguz contains within its lore the true meaning of sacrifice. Such sacrifice occurs when one form is called upon to die so that a newly evolved form may begin to grow.

>>223220

The oldest basis for the signs themselves is the Balkans and Vinca culture around 7,000 years ago, from there they spread extensively including across the Black sea region and into the Caucasus, Turkic signs will be a branch off at a later date.

The earliest usage as a writing system is of the West Germanic Ingaevones, following on from exclusively shamanic usage.

>Ing, the legendary father of the Ingaevones derives his name from a posited proto-Germanic *Ingwaz, signifying "man" and "son of", as Ing, son of Mannus. This is also the name applied to the Viking era deity Freyr, known in Sweden as Yngvi-Freyr and mentioned as Yngvi-Freyr in Snorri Sturluson's Ynglinga saga.

>>223909

The context in which such finds first appear in the Vinca culture was a very strange one, some relate this to the claimed earliest Danube script

>>229106

It is a very good piece with regards to the transition of age of Aries to Pisces and the relationship involved, he doesn't seem to get around to explaining what the title of Dumuzi there involved, Ama-usum-gal-anna, which literally translates as Mother-Dragon-Great-Heaven(f), in effect Dumuzi as the Dragon Prince Champion of the Great Mother Dragon, which was a title of the Goddess Urash as the Planet Earth, the tradition behind that is intriguing as this old but good article considers;

http://www.jstor.org/stable/528330?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

>>229588

Yes Anu as the Masculine force of Heaven as represented by Uranus and Nin-ana as the Feminine primarily represented by Venus as Evening star, were Istar-anu was the half serpentine Masculine Morning star, Urash/Earth as the Dragon Mother.

https://www.academia.edu/540407/Transtigridian_Snake_Gods

The Dragon cult related very closely to the vine and also blood-lines, and the establishment of Urash was understood as grafted onto a great Celestial vine, and that Dumuzi and Inanna as Dragon Prince and Princess related to that overall extension of the life force of the vine throughout the cosmos and rule upon Earth.

>>229910

It's a question of choice, do people want to re-connect to the tradition of the Heavens or do they wish to remain under the reactionary and resentful influence of the Jews of which the Freemasons are an extension, in which case this planet will remain in isolation and all resources organic and mineral shall be over exploited and the planet die.

>She can make the lament for you, my Dumuzid, the lament for you, the lament, the lamentation, reach the desert – she can make it reach the house Arali

>In the desert, my Dumuzi, I sing with her the wail, the wail for you, the wail for you; In the temple Arali I sing with her

>Your house of Arali (House which is the nether world) gives shade to the shepherd. Your prince, a raging lion on the plain, the šuba jewel of the Mistress whose breast is holy and marvellous, the lord who is holy Inana’s husband, Dumuzid

I simply help make the decision an informed one.

>>230455

The recognition of what occurred is important, it means you have achieved a parity of understanding of sorts and then can perhaps begin to work on the same level.

The main criteria is the development and refinement of organic life, the lending of a helping hand towards nature, in that sense certain human population groups were refined towards active participation and development and taught the principles of selective reproduction which formed the basis of the Neolithic revolution, the domestication of live stock and selective pollination of plants towards diversity and specialization.

Other aspects taught the potential usage of minerals and ores and rudimentary techniques to unlock natures secrets as well as providing the basis for a cosmological perspective much of which provides the basis for this thread, never a case of gibs me dat though.

All of which of course equates with the Hebrew tradition of the evil fallen Angels teaching naughty things, their issue was and remains that they weren't part of the programme though they decided to breed themselves into it through the selection of the Syriac wives of Jacob, albeit retaining their Semitic paternal line, and they also decided to subvert and displace/genocide all other aspects of the original tradition in becoming the Chosen people.

In terms of seed i think this generally pre-dates Sumerian civilization but they preserved and recorded some elements from former times which included artificial reproduction, all the Kings of Uruk claimed Ninsumun as their Mother because she ran the local seed shrine and never mentioned any Father.

>I am the creature of Nanna! I am the older brother of Gilgamec! I am the son borne by Ninsumun, a princely seed! For me, kingship came down from heaven! Sweet is the praise of me, the shepherd Ur-Namma!

>I am a child born of Ninsumun. I am the choice of holy An's heart. I am Culgi, the beloved of Ninlil. I am he who is cherished by Nintud.

>City worthy of the divine powers, according to its name: shrine Urim, Origin of human seed, consolidating the foundations of the Land, abundance – and well on the day when the destiny of the Land was determined, when the seed of all living beings was originally brought forth

>Ninisina perfect with the great divine powers, the fifty divine powers, perfect adorned with jewels of cuba stone, the lady whose great name is in Girsu, the shrine which first brought forth the seed of mankind

Nin-sumun of Uruk correlates to Nin-Isin of Isin in that both represent the Matron of the local seed bank and reproduction specialist, were the seeds were symbolized as diamonds or cuba/brilliant stones.

>She takes in her hands the august divine powers.She tests the surgical lancet; Ninisina sharpens the scalpel. She has made perfect the divine powers of medicine

>My lady searched intensively on her own , concerned herself with things that otherwise one does not bother with, directed her attention to things that otherwise one does not do. Proudly she took the rank of Mistress, and my lady took away all the divine powers established for it. At that time, the jewellery of cuba stones did not exist; no jewellery of cuba stones was worn on the neck. Nininsina invented it: it was she who ploughed with the cuba stones, she who made them into seeds.

>To create offspring for thousands of young women, to make things in order like a potter, to cut the umbilical cord, to determine destinies, to let the human child scream loud and long after it is received in the embrace

Nin-Isin was represented by the star Sirius as the leading Heavenly light.

>>230557

Right the Tree of Life was understood as planted within the Pegasus square, Paradise, that emerged from the waters of the Apsu, that extends upwards through Andromeda-Pegasus-Taurus-Orion to Canis Major, but Scorpio and in particular Antares related to the deepest root source, the seven spirits related to seven stars were understood as born of the Scorpion, and that related also to the cult of Ishara in terms of the refinement and purification of the seven spirits which emerged from the underground stream.

>Išhara, the gods of divine oath, malediction and death! Every god is hungry and thirsty. Come here, eat and drink! And accompany me!

The entire badness, be purified from the house and the town; dirtiness, murder, perjury, sin, malediction.be tied to the hands and feet, and be pulled to the underground!” You, the Underground gods! Look, your tribute is given. Now receive this sacrifice!

http://dergiler.ankara.edu.tr/dergiler/18/941/11714.pdf

>>230797

The most common version of this having 60 - Anu, 50 -Enlil, 40 - Ea/Enki, 30 - Nanna/Suen, 20 - Utu/Shamash, 15 - Inanna/Ishtar, 10 - Ishkur/Adad, were the sum total is 225, a very important sum relating to the orbital period of Venus and 225 degrees.

There is also an example from Late period Uruk were [1] Anum [2] Antum [3] Enlil [4] Ea [5] Sîn [6] Enk i[7] The Seven [8] The Igigi [9] The Anunaki [10] Bel [20] Shamash [30] Sîn [40] Ea [50] Enlil, a slightly different and in some ways odd take on things, but anyway often Deities names could be simply substituted by their symbolic number and often on seals their symbolic number is represented by dots as units on ten

http://www.academia.edu/6934440/Numbers_exactly_indicate_gods_depicted_on_cylinder_seals

http://www.academia.edu/1261766/Mesopotamian_mathematics_page_proofs_

>>231274

That's Virgo as the Furrow, a symbol they held in common with Indus valley civilization.

>>231134

Well obviously most people complete their nature by finding the qualities they are lacking in a partner, ie the balance of Masculine and Feminine qualities, which is a good thing or we'd never reproduce.

>>231356

You're welcome, also the sum total of 225 is 15 (Inanna) squared, it's also her birthday.

>>231237

It tends to be a case of needs must and what is required to achieve certain dreams, but also of course great interest and appreciation of these ancient traditions.

>>231424

No, as i also explained to her i meant the 25th of February.

>>230797

Also check the colour coding.

Gold - Sun/Šamaš ——– Gold

Silver - Moon/Sin ——— Silver

Light Red - Mercury/Nabû - Copper?

Blue - Venus/Ištar ——– Lapis

Dark Red - Mars/Nergal — Red gold?

Black - Saturn/Ninurta —– Lead

White - Jupiter/Marduk —- Electrum?

If Venus wears a black crown - Saturn stands in front of her

If Venus wears a white crown - Jupiter stands in front of her

If Venus wears a green crown - Mars stands in front of her

If Venus wears a red crown - Mercury stands in front of her

If Venus wears a rainbow crown - a rainbow lies crosswise in front of her

If Venus wears the Sun's crown - she becomes very bright, Saturn stands in front of her

If Venus wears the Moon's crown - she is very small, Mercury stands in front of her

<Ištar is described as both a palm tree and as a ziggurat, and a luminescent one at that. According to Parpola (following the Kabbalistic meditation on colours and garments of the sefirot) the seven colours of the ziggurat are the seven garments of Ištar, so that when she descends to the netherworld she undresses, and when she ascends she puts the garments back on. He compares this to the Mithraic ascent of the soul: the initiate climbs "a ladder with seven gates," the first (of lead) associated with Saturn, the second (of tin) with Venus, the third (of bronze) with Jupiter, the fourth (of iron) with Mercury, the fifth (of electrum) with Mars, the sixth (of silver) with Moon, and the seventh (of gold) with Sun.

>>231739

The thing is with Enki and Ninhursag is that they new what they were doing when it came to the creation of life in symbolic terms, they took the basic constituent of the Field and all organic elements and transformed water, crossing the divide between water and plant and then plant and creature, the curious sea serpent Cetus that rose alongside the tree of life represented this principle as the plant of life and as recorded on round Dilmun seals, the creature is then understood to have the eye of inner illumination or consciousness, Enki started with the easy ones first and followed natural progression or evolution

>>235252

It might be helpful if you're planning a journey into the afterlife.

>>238245

They reworked earlier literary classics in order to control the narrative in the same sense that Christianity was a literary re-packaging of surrounding religious beliefs, but the source of their literary excellence is intriguing and likely originated in Egypt from the fallout relating to Atenism.

http://qdl.scs-inc.us/2ndParty/Pages/8232.html

In particular the sect of the House of Life sect that had been established at Akhetaten likely became the intellectual elite of the Levite sect, this was a group that composed religious texts

>The House of Life was more than a library and a scriptorium. It contained a community of educated men and occasionally, when no answers to a question could be found in the existing literature, discussions must have arisen which might then lead to the composition of completely new texts.

http://www.reshafim.org.il/ad/egypt/institutions/house_of_life.htm

The original House of Life cult had been established at Abydos, they were responsible for the creation of Egyptian religion.

>It is very hidden, unknown, invisible, nothing save the solar disk sees it. It escapes men that go there. The Sun's librarians, the Treasure Scribes are within.

This was the group that the tradition of the Book of Thoth related to, their initiation rite of entering the Chamber of Kek;

https://henadology.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/book-of-thoth-butler-new1.pdf

So we actually know who they were and where they came from and what they did and it's a very long time since they produced anything of note, why do you think that is?

>>240619

On a related note, the re-establishment of the Principles of the House of Life by the adepts of Kek;

>Kky darkness is thus often associated with the Nun, the primeval oceanic chaos. In particular kky-darkness suggests lack of differentiation; which alludes to the precosmic condition in which “there were not two things”.

By means of the Chamber of Darkness, the initiated writer appropriates this night prior to any day: “My heart said to me: ‘Return to it, namely, the Chamber of Darkness, so as to learn its boundary’

>The Chamber of Darkness also pertains to the second externality, the underworld Through this aspect, the writer establishes a relationship with writers who went before and who are now ‘excellent spirits’ transfigured from their mortality to become pure spirits of enunciation

>“Writing is a sea Its reeds are a shore Hasten therein, little one, little one! Hurry to the shore! Count waves (or ‘difficult passages’). As for its body, it is a myriad , Do not be weak with regard to it (the sea) until its lord permits that you swim in it and he makes a perfect place (or ‘very fair wind’) before you

>The Egyptian rḫ-iḫy, “magician, scholar”, is preeminently a knower of texts, but s/he is literally a knower of things

>But this does not mean that the‘abstract’ object grounded in textuality is not ‘real’, or that particulars are only real in some deceptive discursive twilight. Rather, text circulates in the bodies of all things, and these things obtrude themselves, they are writing themselves into it all the time: everything