Anonymous ID: 76e33a Jan. 5, 2018, 2:20 a.m. No.247553   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1907

>>245198

 

The Sumerian Goddess Nisaba was held to hold a Lapis Lazuli tablet upon which was the schematic of the Heavens, that through her observations of movements in time and space she could make predictive forecasts, that architectural formulations could reflect the greater pattern seen in the skies, sequences can be identified as relating to all aspects of life.

 

Reeds brakes/screens were understood in Sumer as a liminal dividing line between this realm and the other world, in the early reed shrines the Deity was understood to communicate from behind the other side of the screen as it were, that again relating to the reed of the scribe determining Divine nature, the lapis lazuli tablet and the stylus reed are related.

Anonymous ID: 76e33a Jan. 5, 2018, 2:47 a.m. No.247583   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1907

>>245198

 

With regards to the Hebrews they were Habiru, outlaw bands of mixed ethnicity derivative of a collapse in the former social order based on dedication to the temple complex and the rise of merchant power based on the shekel gold standard and related debt slavery practise, an important element of them related to the destruction of proto-Hebraic Ebla by Ninevah over the issue of debt slavery but it was the scribal elements of renegade Atenists that made them a real force, the tradition in Egypt/Abydos had been established via the Uruk sphere of influence.

 

>To find mentioned by name scholars who would be remembered hundreds of years later in the tradition is somewhat remarkable.But it is even more remarkable that these scholars, along with a couple of mythological sages and the god Ea, are placed alongside other, presumably less celebrated scholars, many of whom we know absolutely nothing beyond what this text preserves. This suggests the genealogical relationship to antediluvian sages extended to all scholars as a class

 

>Focusing on the ummânù, the implication of the text is rather clear: the human, post-diluvian scholars are the direct professional descendants of the earlier semi-divine apkallu

 

>During the time that follows this period, nothing new is invented, the original revelation is only transmitted and unfolded In the oral tradition of scholars, their role as mediators between gods and men is indicated by the Akkadian phrase ša pî um-mānī “from the oral tradition of the masters”

 

>The entire corpus of crafts like exorcism, medicine, omen interpretation , ritual lamentation , and astrology consisted of “secrets of the scholars” (ni ṣirti ummānī ), and “secrets of the antediluvian sages” (ni ṣirti apkall ī ).

 

>All texts of traditional Mesopotamian scholarly sciences, both practical and theoretical, were secret documents

 

>All crafts used in royal building and renovation projects was attributed to that of the antediluvian sages.In a Neo-Babylonian building ritual text from Babylon the prayer “When Anu created heaven” is cited, which explicitly says that Ea created these craftsmen in the beginning of time

 

http://www.academia.edu/2196071/The_Antediluvian_Origin_of_Evil_in_the_Mesopotamian_and_Jewish_Traditions_A_Comparative_Study

Anonymous ID: 76e33a Jan. 6, 2018, 2:14 a.m. No.255315   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>6497

Yes we appear to have lost a violet planet according to the sequence, violet because of the colour sequence blue/Neptune, green/Uranus, Yellow/Saturn, Orange-Red/Jupiter, X/Violet, a planet located in theory at 7 x 36=252 million miles from the Sun and the location of the asteroid belt.

 

The numbers involved are also much used in biblical prophesy in regards to seven times of 360 days or years periodicals or also 3.5 x 360=1260, but then again the numerology also was found of the Moon God Nanna;

 

>His fattened cows] number 108000. His young bulls number 126000. The sparkling-eyed cows number 50400. The white cows number 126000. The cows for the evening meal are in four groups of five each. Such are the various types of cow of Father Nanna.

 

252 is also Inanna's birthday depending on which side of the Atlantic you're on, but anyway the numbers suggest planet X may simply have relocated at a formative stage of the solar system to become our Moon, but in symbolic terms it and the colour purple relate to death, violence, destruction and sacrifice, also;

 

>NIN.GAL, "Great Lady/Queen") was a goddess of reeds in the Sumerian mythology, daughter of Enki and Ningikurga and the consort of the moon god Nanna by whom she bore the sun god Utu, his sister Inanna, and in some texts, Ishkur. She is chiefly recognised at Ur, and was probably first worshipped by cow-herders in the marsh lands of southern Mesopotamia.

 

Death destruction and violence are obviously aspects of creation but there is also redemption and restoration as the reeds record, complex but needs to be factored in.

Anonymous ID: 76e33a Jan. 6, 2018, 11:55 a.m. No.256829   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>256497

 

Right that's cool the conjunction, mythology regarding the void between Jupiter/Mars is highly complex and in general relates to a dying and rising God that rules the Underworld, also mining/smelting/toxicity/plague/weapons/warfare, it obviously tends to stray into Mars related associations but there are distinct differences.

 

Principle mythological associations Nergal/Herakles/Melqart/Mot with some correlation to Vulcan/Hephaestus, in particular Melqart/Moloch of Tyre and the association with Purple, the sacrifice of Melqart involved his burning on a pyre, in general death and destruction will always be involved, sometimes also dwarven miners and the title of Lord of the Great (underground) City.

Anonymous ID: 76e33a Jan. 8, 2018, 2:46 a.m. No.257619   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>257498

 

This is true that piece of real estate relates to one particular Deity, and he will insist on the restoration of the cult of his daughter, the Goddess Na-zi.

Anonymous ID: 76e33a Jan. 8, 2018, 11:10 a.m. No.257674   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>7676

>>257655

 

Nazi/Nance the Goddess of National Socialism;

 

>She is concerned for the orphan and concerned for the widow. She does not forget the man who helps others, she is a mother for the orphan; Nance, a carer for the widow, who always finds advice for the debt-slave; the lady who gives protection for refugees. She seeks out a place for the weak. She swells his collecting basket for him; she makes his collecting vessel profitable for him. For the righteous maiden who has taken her path, Nance chooses a young man of means. Nance raises a secure house like a roof over the widow who could not remarry

 

As Goddess of the birds and fishes of the marshlands at the top of the Persian Gulf she also relates to the constellation Pisces in it's entirety, alongside Aquarius/En-ki, this raises correlation to Inanna who equates with the Fish of Pisces/Anunitum, but Nazi as daughter of En-ki relates to the physical and Inanna of the En-lil side of the Pantheon spiritual qualities, they can be reconciled.

 

>Enki placed his daughter Nanse in charge of the shrine Sirara because it sat over the wide extent of the marsh and she had influence over the high flood of subterranean waters. Nanse was known as 'she who sets sail', and 'she who induces sexual intercourse'. She was her father's daughter.

 

The cult of Nazi relocated after her City was trashed by the Elamites;

 

>The city of Nanše, Niĝin, was delivered to the foreigners. Sirara, her beloved dwelling, was handed over to the evil ones. "Alas, the destroyed city, my destroyed house," she cried bitterly. Its sacred Ĝipar of en priesthood was defiled. Its en priest was snatched from the Ĝipar and carried off to enemy territory.

 

http://www.tellsurghul.org/Area_D.html

 

The cult of Nina/Nigin in fact re-established itself at Nina/Nineveh, and was thus the basis for Istar of Nineveh;

 

> The name Nina, was borne also by the goddess Ishtar, whose worship was the special cult of Nineveh, and Ninua may well be a hypocoristicon of Nina,. The ideogram for Nineveh, as also for the Lagash city is a fish enclosed in the sign for house, possibly indicating a fish-pond, sacred to Ishtar.

 

https://deepblue.lib.umich.edu/bitstream/handle/2027.42/77489/Ishtar.pdf?sequence=1

 

https://theodora.com/encyclopedia/n/nineveh.html

 

At the time this was established Nineveh was a Hurrian City and indeed it is Istar of Nineveh that is given in Hurrian texts as the destroyer of Ebla over the issue of debt slavery, also of course the Atargatis mythology relates to this aspect of Nina.

 

In terms of her tradition of giving oracles and dream interpretation that became the forte of the closely related cult of Istar of Arbela;

 

>Nanshe had the ability to give oracular messages and determine the future through dream interpretation (Oneiromancy). Her priests were also granted these abilities after conducting a ritual that represented death and resurrection.

 

When one considers her cult it is also clear that the role of the daughter of Enki was a major facet of the Christian message in conjunction with that of the shepherd King son of Enki, theologians have long noticed the essential pairing of a God of the pastoralists and the fisherman cult, when this is seen in conjunction with being a friend to tax collectors, fornicators, orphans and widows and helping the poor and needy on the margins of society it is clear that is the cult of Nazi who first stepped out of the warm waters of the Persian gulf over four thousand years previously.

 

In fact Nazi relocated again to the shores of Galilee;

 

>Perhaps the most prominent physical landmark around the Sea of Galilee is towering Mount Arbel. Mount Arbel is located near the sea’s western shore in the vicinity of ancient Magdala, home of Mary Magdalene.

 

>There are many caves in the cliff, some of them were used as a fort. Under the cliff, on the right side, are the ruins of the Roman city of Arbela.

 

Her magic involved water…

 

>The word of Ištar of Arbela to Esarhaddon, king of Assyria:

 

>Come, gods, my fathers and brothers, enter the covenant . . .She placed a slice . of bread on the terrace and gave them water from a cooler to drink. She filled a flagon of one seah with water from the cooler and gave it to them with the words:

 

>"In your hearts say, 'Ištar is slight,' and you will go to your cities and districts, eat your bread and forget this covenant.

 

But when you drink from this water, you will remember me and keep this covenant which I have made *"

Anonymous ID: 76e33a Jan. 8, 2018, 11:36 a.m. No.257677   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>7678 >>7900

>>257650

 

The search for Damu, the swine constellation/Delphinus, son of En-Ki and a product of Nin-Isin's medical facility…

 

>Damu is a Sumerian god, documented since the period of the Third Dynasty of Ur. He had a cult in Isin, where he was called the son of the local tutelary goddess, Ninisina. Damu is also considered the son of Urash, another name for Ninhursag-Ki, the Great Mother Earth, and Enki, god of Wisdom, Magick and the sweet fertilizing waters of the deep, the Abzu, as well as a younger, childlike version of Dumuzi the archetypal Lover and Divine Bridegroom of Mesopotamia.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damu

Anonymous ID: 76e33a Jan. 8, 2018, 11:52 a.m. No.257679   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>257676

 

But Nebo was a Semitic upstart that took over Nisaba's role, nb a contraction;

 

>The god of wisdom, Enki, organized the world after creation and gave each deity a role in the world order. Nisaba was named the scribe of the gods, and Enki then built her a school of learning so that she could better serve those in need. She keeps records, chronicles events, and performs various other bookwork-related duties for the gods. She is also in charge of marking regional borders.

 

>She is the chief scribe of Nanshe. On the first day of the new year, she and Nanshe work together to settle disputes between mortals and give aid to those in need. Nisaba keeps a record of the visitors seeking aid and then arranges them into a line to stand before Nanshe, who will then judge them. Nisaba is also seen as a caretaker for Ninhursag's temple at Kesh, where she gives commands and keeps temple records.

 

>As the goddess of writing and teaching, she was often praised by Sumerian scribes. Many clay-tablets end with the phrase “Nisaba be praised”

Anonymous ID: 76e33a Jan. 8, 2018, 12:03 p.m. No.257680   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>7887

>>257678

 

The Greeks of course also interpreted the swine constellation as a Dolphin and the basis for the Delphic oracle, seal isn't entirely unreasonable though in terms of curious hybrid.

Anonymous ID: 76e33a Jan. 8, 2018, 2:31 p.m. No.257716   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>257678

 

To put the Delphinus/Damu principle into full context, it is the upwardly rising principle from beneath the waters, the principle that raised the land of the Pegasus square and that of the upwardly rising sap of the tree, Hindu tradition covers this in the Varaha mythos;

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varaha

 

There was a lot of correlation between the Indus valley culture and that of Lagash state as they had strong trade connections through the Gulf, Indra correlates to Nindara consort of Nanse, Vishnu to Hendursaja, her accomplice and brother of Nindara, Nanse herself formed the basis for Lakshmi.

 

The boar was understood as the third incarnation of Vishnu after the fish and turtle, which are also often seen on Dilmun seals as the helpers of Enki, the third principle then and that of the Divine child is the land emerging from the waters, these also the deepest aspects of the cult of Istar of Nineveh.

Anonymous ID: 76e33a Jan. 10, 2018, 2:24 a.m. No.258013   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>8113

>>257900

 

Wadjet as the flow, transmission and distribution of energy is interesting.

 

https://cloudfront.escholarship.org/dist/prd/content/qt8np4d4hf/qt8np4d4hf.pdf?t=ny6grb&v=lg

Anonymous ID: 76e33a Jan. 11, 2018, 12:24 p.m. No.258135   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>8163 >>8167

>>258113

 

Well i outlined the basis for death and destruction at the Cosmological level and the entire board exploded and died and we currently find ourselves floating adrift in the Asteroid belt, so perhaps one can say too much.

 

But with regards to staffs, these were the symbols of office of viziers the foremost of which was Ninshubur as Orion, who as Orion represented the interests of Anu as the Bull of Heaven/Taurus and Inanna the Pleiades, the inter-mediary of Heaven and Earth.

 

The staff then represents the authority to act on behalf of those Divine forces and aspects of nature, for example it had the power to command the storm, but of course different staffs represented different Divinities and aspects of nature.

 

http://www.academia.edu/252789/The_Staff_of_Ninsubura

 

Even when held by a King in the role of Dumuzid that was still the symbol of the inter-mediary with the power to represent the interests of the Heavens, to be a shepherd to the people.

 

>Ninsubur, the good minister of E-ana, clasps him by his right hand and brings him in bliss to Inana's embrace: "May the lord whom you have chosen in your heart, the king, your beloved husband, enjoy long days in your holy and sweet embrace! Give him a propitious and famous reign, give him a royal throne of kingship on its firm foundation, give him the sceptre to guide the Land, and the staff and crook, and give him the righteous headdress and the crown which glorifies the head! From the rising of the sun to the setting of the sun, from the south to the north, from the upper sea to the lower sea, from where the halub tree grows to where the cedar grows, over all Sumer and Akkad, grant him the staff and the crook!

 

>May he act as shepherd of the black-headed inhabitants; may he, like a farmer, make the fields productive; may he make the sheepfolds multiply, like a trustworthy shepherd.

 

>"May high flood-waters flow in the Tigris and Euphrates, may the grasses grow tall on their banks, and may the meadows be covered. May the holy lady Nisaba pile high the grain heaps and mounds. My lady, queen of heaven and earth, queen who encompasses heaven and earth, may he enjoy long days …… embrace."

 

http://etcsl.orinst.ox.ac.uk/section4/tr40830.htm

Anonymous ID: 76e33a Jan. 11, 2018, 3:50 p.m. No.258186   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>8195 >>8196

>>258163

 

Yes you may well be right about the Was sceptre being the actual basis for the term vizier and there was concern with gender ambivalence in the cult of Venus as Masculine Morning star and Feminine Evening star, it related to metaphysics and serpents standing upright.

 

The land of Shubar was Hurrian, the Akkadians weren't happy with the thought of a Trans-Caucasian lady effectively running the Universe and changed the designation of Orion to the vizier of some obscure war God named Zababa, in terms of Pap-sukkal.

 

>The land of Subartu (Akkadian Šubartum/Subartum/ina Šú-ba-ri, Assyrian mât Šubarri) or Subar (Sumerian Su-bir4/Subar/Šubur) is mentioned in Bronze Age literature. Subartu may have been in the general sphere of influence of the Hurrians.

 

>The name also appears as Subari in the Amarna letters, and, in the form Šbr, in Ugarit, and came to be known as the Hurrians or Subarians and their country was known as Subir, Subartu or Shubar.

 

>Subartu was apparently a polity in Northern Mesopotamia, at the upper Tigris. Most scholars accept Subartu as an early name for Assyria proper on the Tigris, although there are various other theories placing it sometimes a little farther to the east, north or west of there.

 

Is the Giza death star thing related to Joseph Farrell?

Anonymous ID: 76e33a Jan. 12, 2018, 2:53 a.m. No.258224   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>8262 >>8267

>>258195

 

It was much more than the sourcing of martial prowess, there are scant mineral and ore resources in Mesopotamia and the Hurrians were providing these through their extensive territories in Northern Iran and Anatolia, the companion City of Uruk was Bad-Tibira, a Hurrian term meaning the City of metal working and that was the centre of the ore importation and smelting industry, it was also the City of Dumuzid as companion to Inanna of Uruk, the sacred marriage in a sense was the relationship of the Northern pastoralists and casting culture with the City state agriculturalists, without that relationship no civilization.

 

The Trans-Caucasians took the Masculine role then in that sacred marriage and the Sumerians the Feminine, given their origin from the Hattic cultures of Anatolia that could even be understood as Horus and Hathor (Hurrian and Hattic), that was the premise Egyptian culture was founded upon from the initial contact from Susa of the Uruk sphere.

 

http://grepal.free.fr/articles/emmanuelle_honore_icom_anglais.pdf

 

There is no basis for a Jewish Messiah, they took over a City in terms of Jerusalem that had been established by the Hurrians two thousand years previously and tried to make their traditions their own, they adopted Hurrian cultural values and tradition as the only correspondence to that of the Bible is sourced from the Hurrian Nuzi tablets.

 

http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2006/02/27/Great-Discoveries-in-Biblical-Archaeology-The-Nuzi-Tablets.aspx

 

https://pursiful.com/2008/02/18/a-hurrian-cadre-in-king-davids-court/

 

The Goddess Asherah is the Anatolian Goddess Ishara;

 

>The statue of Išḫara in the city Nerissa had the form of a girl and it was decorated with garments, gold and silver As a goddess of Love and sexuality Išḫara belongs to the group of young goddesses, and therefore she bears the Hurrian epithet šiduru = girl.

 

http://dergiler.ankara.edu.tr/dergiler/18/941/11714.pdf

 

The NW Semitic Pantheon then derived from Anatolia and Mesopotamia, El-lil from En-lil of Nibru/Nippur and the Hebrews are just one of his weird schemes with regards to Destiny, a challenge to Nin-Girsu, there are a lot of other Divine factors to take into account.

 

As far as the Labyrinth goes the Lord of the Great (Underground) City was Nergal, En-uru-gal to the Phoenicians Melqart meaning King of the City.

Anonymous ID: 76e33a Jan. 12, 2018, 11:21 a.m. No.258272   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>8273 >>8276

>>258262

 

You're right the Merchants became the One ring to bind them all as it were, and your having a good grasp on this it would be very useful to consider the Moloch conundrum as that relates to Melqart of Tyre.

 

The issue is this, the God of mining/smelting/toxicity/plague/weapons/death obviously tunneled down deep enough to become the Lord of the Underworld, to the fires of inner Earth as rapist, thus becoming the basis for the popularized Devil, he could also be said to be the patron of the military industrial complex and the exploitation of all natural resources, in effect makes death and destruction inevitable and for that reason it is Melkart that was consumed in the flames of his own Pyre in conjunction with those along for the ride, in that sense i posited him as the patron Deity of the Asteroid belt.

 

The traditions of the Eastern Mediterranean though are primarily of Hattic origin rather than Hurrian, and they had an entirely different perspective on the sanctity of precious metals before the age of the Merchants were they became the basis for liquid currency, the cult of Melqart derived from the Anatolian God Sandon

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandon_(god)

 

For background some extensive quoting from here;

 

Near Eastern Patron Deities of Mining and Smelting in the Late Bronze Age and Early Iron Ages’ (plate xix), S. Dalley, Report of the Department of Antiquities Cyprus, (RDAC)1987

 

>The identity of the ingot god and goddess has been suggested on indirect evidence, which dates some 500 years or more after the period of the Cypriot statuettes, as Canaanite Resheph [Semitic form r’sh’f-Reshef, Egyptian = Reshpu] and as Aphrodite, who is implied by Herodotus to be of Cypriot origin. Since the ingot god of Enkomi stands in the pose of the Smiting God, the possibility of identifying him with the Semitic god Resheph has wider implications.

 

>Akkadian cuneiform texts from Mesopotamia contain some information which is relevant to this Cypriot and Cretan problem. To take the goddess first: there is a goddess who is particularly well documented in the Old Babylonian (MBA) period, known variously as Mamma, Mammi and Mammitum. She is called “the female smelter of the gods” in two separate hymns. In a list of four (or five) smiths from Mari on the Middle Euphrates, two of the names are compounded with Mamma. In the Old Babylonian Epic of Atra-hasis the goddess Mammi plays a central role as creator of mankind, the one who mixes the raw materials clay and blood, the midwife goddess whose names or epithets are given as “mistress of the gods,” “mistress of all the gods” and NIN-TU(R), “lady of the birth-hut(?).” In the Epic of Gilgamesh X. vi.37 she is creator of mankind. Thus she has two clear attributes: as a smelter goddess and as a birth goddess. She is to be recognised by her omega shaped symbol [Ω] which is thought to represent a uterus. Her cult centre is (was) at Kesh.

 

>Although the site of Kesh in central Mesopotamia has not been identified, it is attested as a cult centre in records from the proto-literate period onwards, and was the principal shrine of the great Sumerian fertility goddess Ninhursag and of [p. 62] her hypostasis NIN-TU(R). Ninhursag means “mountain lady,” and she is attested in Sumerian as the “copper smelter of the land” and the “copper smelter of the gods.”

Anonymous ID: 76e33a Jan. 12, 2018, 11:32 a.m. No.258273   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>8276

>>258272

 

The relationship to Nin-hur-sag is simply her association with the sacred mountain and the fact that's were ores are obtained from.

 

>To take the god second: there is evidence that Nergal was the patron god of smelting in Assyria from at least the 9th century onwards. At the Gate of the Foundry Workers which was one of the main entrances to the city of Assur on the middle Tigris, two maceheads were found of the 9th and 8th centuries, inscribed with a dedication to Nergal. In a ritual instruction text on a 7th century tablet there are instructions for the end of campaigns This information implies that Nergal was the patron god of foundry workers, and the metal was stored either in his temples, or at other places such as city gates that were dedicated to him.

 

>Various cult centres of Nergal are known in Mesopotamia proper. Kutha (Tell Ibrahim near Babylon) is the best attested; there his consort was Mammitum. In Assyria he was the chief god of Tarbiţu, just north of Ninevah; there Laz was his spouse. He has shrines at Ninevah and Nimrud, although these have not been discovered. At Assur he shared the temple of Assur with his consort Allat (“goddess”). So closely connected were Assur and Nergal there that the priests from a single family served both deities.

 

>Nergal is the son of Ellil, head of the pantheon, or Anu, the sky god. His mother is not named. He was equated with Gilgamesh as the ruler of the Underworld. This is extraordinary, for Nergal is one of the great gods, whereas Gilgamesh was a hero who signally failed to find immortality. As Schretter and von Weiher have shown, there are variant writings of Nergal’s name from the MBA onwards which indicate a pronunciation Eragal and Erakal.

 

>The possibility that “Herakles” is the western, non-Semitic pronunciation of Nergal/Erakal was suggested in 1857, and no later scholarship has refuted the phonetic changes involved, nor has any Semitic inscription with the name Herakles come to light, despite the great popularity of the god in W. Asia; all Greek inscriptions on statues of Herakles name Herakles; all Semitic inscriptions on statues of Herakles name Nergal, Melqart or Resheph.

 

> For them Melqart-Herakles was a major god, the patron god of Tyre. The name of their god, Melqart, is virtually a translation of the name Nergal; “ruler of the city” and “lord of the great city” respectively; these etymologies are widely accepted. There are several further pieces of evidence that suggest Melqart and Nergal were the same god.

 

Nergal and Melqart give every indication of being a tutelary Deity, that is they were the Divine personification of the actual human treasure seeker and gold digger, the rogue that leaves a trail of death and destruction in his wake.

Anonymous ID: 76e33a Jan. 12, 2018, 12:04 p.m. No.258277   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>258267

 

Right that's basically what i'm looking at here, the distinction between Ninurta/Tessub/Tarhun/Ba'al Hadad as storm God and leader of the army and also Nergal having the same associations, often seen together there was also syncretism to some extent.

 

The differences are that Ninurta as farmer closely related to the protection of the land, though he used the same tools of warfare, he represented the maintainance of Divine order Nergal brought destruction.

 

Also Nergal was the patron Deity of executioners and torturers,

 

>An epithet of the god Nergal in Hatra inscriptions is the Iranian loan word dhšyˀ, dhšptˀ. It is used exclusively of Nergal and is related to his role of punishing divinity, in the meaning of “executioner, butcher, torturer”. This interpretation of the word as Iranian term fits excellently the role of Nergal as known to us from Mesopotamian sources. He was primarily keeper of the underworld and the god of pestilence. As the god of the underworld, he functioned as a judge. His lion-headed mace was able to punish and wreak vengeange. Despite the popular nature of the association of Nergal with Heracles and the very frequent portrayal of Heracles at Hatra in Greek guise, a continued awareness of the Mesopotamian nature of Nergal remains in the title Nergol dhšptˀ “Nergol the executioner”.

 

http://www.aakkl.helsinki.fi/melammu/database/gen_html/a0000611.php

 

The differences and essential conflict between the two was the basis of struggle between Ba'al and Mot.

 

It's a question then of who's Storm are we actively engaged with, sometimes Nergal was even given as consort of Ninurta's wife Baba/Bau, Goddess of medicine and healing the very opposite of the toxicity and plagues of Nergal, Ninurta himself was understood as a God of healing also in terms of destroying the actual cause of the malaise rather than the addressing of the symptoms through medicine, the issue is complex.

Anonymous ID: 76e33a Jan. 12, 2018, 12:30 p.m. No.258278   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>8407

>>258276

 

Ishara was the Goddess of silver and spiritual refinement and purification and lived beneath the Taurus mountains alongside Allani the Goddess of Gold, they represented the internal energies of the Earth and the stream of consciousness from within.

 

Nergal forced his way into the underworld and made himself the consort of Eres-Kigal, but that term simply means Queen of Eres, and that was the Semitic name for Uruk, and the Deity of the shrine of Eres at Uruk was Nisaba Goddess of scribes and the multiple choice question.

 

That is also the basis for the Greek Eris or Discordia, the generation of choice as the basis for discord, Allani/The Lady generates all choice good and evil, her companion Ishara rejects the problematic and consigns it back to the underworld as perfect Princess, ironically the Jews rejected Ishara.

Anonymous ID: 76e33a Jan. 13, 2018, 10:39 a.m. No.258408   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>8432

>>258407

 

That was towards developing a supposed association with the British people as;

 

>Old Cornish breithil, from *breith, speckled) or from Welsh brithyll, trout (from brith, speckled)

 

The Brythonic term took into account the fact that there was a mixture or speckling of different tribal groups, but also that readily related to the Genesis account of Jacob regarding him producing a herd of speckled cattle from the herd of Laban (meaning white), implying the Tribe of Israel was to be of speckled racial admixture, brown and white or just brown, but never just white.

 

An easy suggestion to make then that the speckled British were just the same as those speckled Hebrews and therefore the lost tribes of Israel, but of course entirely ridiculous.

 

For the Merchants it has always been about the contract or covenant much like the Devil, the classic format of the prophetic books of the Bible is that the accused are reminded of the contract they made, their transgressions against such, suitable punishment, rehabilitation and potential rewards according to future non-breech of contract. Their planned global rule would be entirely legal with the authority and force to back up the claim.

 

The contract does remove the question of choice as you are bound by the terms, the earliest contracts related to debt slavery were one would voluntarily enter into servitude for a fixed sum of gold shekels to be paid back with interest as the basis for release.

 

The oath was somewhat different as that involved questions of honour and trust and was the preferred way of those who didn't bother with contracts.

Anonymous ID: 76e33a Jan. 14, 2018, 12:18 p.m. No.258526   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>258432

 

tu-un-na-nu as correspondent to the Hurrian Hedammu, the first beast of the sea raised by Kumarbi/El and indicative of the power of Byblos.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kumarbi

 

I see were you're going with that as far Phoenician trade connections to the early Cornish Tin mining and it's an interesting angle, particularly as Hedammu was seduced by the Goddess associated with copper, Sauska.

 

https://www.ancient.eu/Sauska/

 

That connection is certainly taken into account in the legends of Jesus visiting Cornwall with his Tin trading uncle Joseph of arimathea and locating the Pendragon mythos at Tintagel, taken as the earliest speckling, even given the potential for small groups in that region having such ties to the Near East though it has little relevance for the greater population, as far as British Israelite claims go.

 

There is also the question of the Stone of Destiny and the understanding that any such cultic connections relate to the God of Destiny, El-lil, and it's perhaps understandable that people hang on to the coat tails of that, though from the Hurrian perspective it was always an evil undertaking to not only challenge Tessub, but ultimately to eradicate mankind, who he generally found a little noisy.

 

The question is or was how does one counter the force of Destiny, particularly when it is on the brink of absolute success, it's an interesting one.

 

>I will tell of Tessub, the great lord of Kummi. I will praise the young woman Allani at the Bolts of the Netherworld. In addition to them I will speak of the young woman Ishara, a skilled goddess, famous for her wisdom.

 

>Tessub and Suwaliyat went down to the Dark Netherworld, and Allani girded herself for work. She goes back and forth in front of Tessub, and Allani made a fine feast at the Bolts of the Netherworld.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%A0uwaliyat

Anonymous ID: 76e33a Jan. 17, 2018, 3:18 a.m. No.258755   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>258714

 

The legend of killing the nine sons would derive from the Blot and also relates to the tradition of Odin of course.

 

>According to the Ynglinga saga the kings Aun, Egil and Adils were buried in Old Uppsala. One interpretation is that these are buried in the three great mounds.

 

>Freyr erected a huge hof at Uppsala and made his chief residence there" The word hof/hov probably denoted "hall", but may connote "sanctuary" as well. It appears quite frequently in Swedish place-names, where it sometimes denotes "banqueting hall

 

>Every ninth year there is a blót of nine days, a common feast for everyone in Sweden. Then they sacrifice nine males of each species, even men, and the bodies are hung from the branches of a grove near the temple. No one is exempt from this blót and everyone sends gifts to the shrine, even the kings.

 

>n order to mollify the divinities he did indeed make a holy sacrifice of dark-coloured victims to the god Frø. He repeated this mode of propitiation at an annual festival and left it to be imitated by his descendants. The Swedes call it Frøblot

 

http://www.germanicmythology.com/works/uppsalatemple.html

Anonymous ID: 76e33a Jan. 17, 2018, 4:05 a.m. No.258757   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>8773

>>258752

 

The cult of Eres-Kigal wasn't well developed in Sumer itself, the title infers Queen of Eres were that was the Semitic name for Uruk, which more generally is considered related to Inanna, but the shrine of Eres related to Nisaba.

 

http://etcsl.orinst.ox.ac.uk/section1/tr122.htm

 

In relating Nisaba to the Goddess of inner Earth the association is through gold were she was the Goddess of golden grain as Virgo and through extension the gold within the Earth, but the tradition originated and was much more fully developed in Anatolia with regards to the Sun Goddess of the inner Earth at Arinna in terms of Hattic tradition, the objects illustrated relating to her cult, and Allani of Hurrian tradition.

 

http://www.academia.edu/11007004/The_great_king_Zuzu_of_Alahzina_the_Goddess_Allani_and_the_Stormgods_of_Kussara_and_Alala%E1%B8%AB

 

It is the Goddess Allani that corresponds to the Celtic Alauna in terms of an energy grid across the land, her cult can be traced thus;

 

>Thereafter Elen thought to make high roads from one stronghold to another across the Island of Britain. And the roads were made. And for that reason they are called the Roads of Elen of the Hosts, because she was sprung from the Island of Britain, and the men of the Island of Britain would not have made those great hostings for any save her.

 

>" 'Elen of the Ways' who later became conflated with Elen of the Hosts. The idea of reindeer ties in nicely with the Sarn Elen; we can imagine the tracks formed by deer as they moved between grazing lands:

 

>"…the antlered Goddess Elen, whose trackways lead us through the frozen forest of our winter dreams"

 

http://www.andrewcollins.com/page/articles/elen_1.htm

 

>One of my remaining geographical goddess stories for investigation was that of the River Ellen, to the west of the county. Some would have you believe that this is a direct lift from the Welsh figure, Elen, a semi-mythical woman much confused with St. Helen, who was, in legend, responsible for a network of straight roads still existing in Wales. However, it turns out that Cumbria’s Ellen is derived from the word ‘alauna’, which, according to the Romans, was the name the Britons gave to Maryport: ‘Alauna Carvetiorum’, or the Alauna of the Carvetii, the local pre-Roman native tribe.

 

>Alauna’ is not a rare name. There’s another place anciently called Alauna in Northumberland (Learchild, or ‘Alauna Votadinum’ – the last element being a tribal name), and yet another example at Watercrook near Kendal. Alcester in Warwickshire, and its river, the Alne (and indeed other english Alnes), also derive from the same root. The River Allen and Allan Water in Scotland are the same, too

 

>Popular 19th century theory, Ekwall’s 1928 English River Names and indeed the 1911 Encyclopaedia Britannica would have you believe that these Alaunas (Alaunæ?) were named after Alaunus, a ‘gaulish god of healing and prophecy’ with inscriptions found at sites in southern France and western Germany. This requires Alaunus to have changed sex when he became British

 

https://esmeraldamac.wordpress.com/2013/11/18/popular-history-abhors-a-vacuum-but-accurate-historians-cant/

 

What she does note is that there was also the God Alaunus which the Romans related to Mercury, DEO IALANO CONTRE SANCTISSIMO, the most sacred and inimical god Ialanus. The Proto-Indo-European root of the name relates to flowing or streaming, or raising and nurturing, Alaunus as Mercury would correspond with the tradition of associated networks, in his capacity of network administration perhaps, but the focal points upon such are Feminine, suggesting that Alauna was the expression of the network itself.

 

It should also be taken into account that the seven spiritual archetypes related to the planets were understood as arising from within the Earth and descending also there to be regenerated.

Anonymous ID: 76e33a Jan. 17, 2018, 4:52 a.m. No.258759   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>8771 >>8810

>>258752

 

Marduk/Amar-utu (Amarru calf of the Sun) is simply an Amorite tutelary Deity, the Divine personification of the Amorite

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amurru_(god)

 

The tradition was all about syncretism and the association of every Divine archetype with the idealized Amorite

 

> In the first centuries of the second, many Mesopotamian cities were controlled by dynasties of Amorite descent. The whole complex process is reflected in several compositions dealing with the god Martu, a Sumerocentric eponym for the Amorite parvenus. In the so-called Marriage of Martu, he is presented as a powerful but crude barbarian seeking a bride among the local gentry. His people are mocked for their nomadic ways, eating raw meat, ignorance of the gods and their temples, and the inability to recite prayers. The text’s conclusion is broken, but presumably Martu succeeded in his suit, and so at last won a place in polite society. There are also two hymns to Martu, much like those for other Sumerian gods, which seem to show his integration into the Mesopotamian divine order. While keeping his savage power, he is accepted as a son of An, favored by Enlil, and ranked among the great gods. As such he now enjoys the perquisites of civilization, including a ‘normal’ cult:

 

https://chs.harvard.edu/CHS/article/display/6343

 

For this reason Marduk should never be taken seriously, the Hebrews did similar with Yahweh, invented a Deity that was the Divine projection of themselves.

Anonymous ID: 76e33a Jan. 18, 2018, 1:43 a.m. No.258816   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>8958

>>258773

 

This is true, the basis for the Dumuzid Kingship of Uruk remained with the Caucasians and can still be evidenced in Alanic times, particularly through the goldwork and motifs of the Sarmatians, 5,000 of which were brought over to Britain and settled as veterans in NW England, a speckling.

 

http://www.heroicage.org/issues/2/ha2tf.htm

 

http://roman-britain.co.uk/places/bremetenacum.htm

 

>Ala Primae Sarmatarum - The First Wing of Sarmatae. This was one unit of perhaps seven, totalling 5,500 tribesmen in all, who were drafted from among the savage tribes living beyond the Danube and sent to Britain by Marcus Aurelius in 175AD. These people had previously held Roman client status, but at this particular time were not under direct Roman control. It has been suggested that Ribchester later became a Roman military horse-breeding/training centre, which drew-upon the particular tribal skills of the Sarmatians.

Anonymous ID: 76e33a Jan. 18, 2018, 2:09 a.m. No.258817   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>258771

 

Yes kenning as to know something directly in the same sense as music, the Art of Zin.

 

>The Hittite term hunzinar comes from Hattic 'large lyre', cf. w. Sem. kināru/ kinor

 

>The large lyre was called hunzinar and the small one ippizinar in Hittite. The word zinar is probably Hattic. In fact the words zinar and kinir show a shift of k > z, which is seen in Luwian words derived from the Hittite.

 

>'Then the great master of ceremonies goes out to the forecourt and says to the herald: zinar, zinar. Then the musicians lift the Istar instruments. The herald marches in front of the musicians who carry in the Istar instruments.'

Anonymous ID: 76e33a Jan. 18, 2018, 2:42 a.m. No.258818   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>258810

 

There is connection between Nergal/Herakles/Melqart and Marduk in that both archetypes developed as Divine representation of manifest phenomena, an interpretation of the powers involved.

 

In the case of Marduk he represented the growing power of Amorite Babylonia, the earliest City God was likely the shamanic healer son of Enki named Asalluhi which remained the primary name of Marduk, but in conjunction with the Babylonian conquest of all of Mesopotamia he also assimilated Enlil and Ninurta and chopped the head of Anu, allegedly, his sidekick the scribal God Nebo wrote these supposed changes in the Divine order into being, he himself was a change in the Divine order as scribal Deity, adjusted the narrative, this set something of an unfortunate precedent.

Anonymous ID: 76e33a Jan. 23, 2018, 4:01 a.m. No.258967   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>8968

>>258958

 

The doctrine of the New Atlantis or re-discovery of such, the opening quote reminded me of American Gods by Neil Gaiman.

 

As the land under the influence of Neptune that would also correlate to were the light first emerged from the waters, the origin of the Asar and the sages, in theory, with America it is always about making waves.

 

The Indo-Iranian expression ‘child of the waters’ is paralleled by the Sumerian expression

dumu abzu ‘child of the waters.’ This epithet is applied to several deities associated with water: Enki’s son, variously named Asar(i),Asariluhi or Asaralimnuna, known as the ‘light of the gods’; Dumuzid (dumu zi(d) ‘the true child,’ Dumuzid abzu ‘the true child of the waters’, an aspect of the goddess Nanše, “the power to new life in the watery deep”

 

>He is the son of the god of subterranean waters, Enki, and is described not only as the ‘great ruler of the abzu and, in Akkadian, as the ‘light of the gods

 

Iranian and Indic are in concord with regard to an apparently inherited numinous force or deity by the name of Apām Napāt usually rendered the ‘child of the waters.’

 

>The Sumerian god of the waters known as Nudimmud may also belong here if a pre-form

*Ne(t)tunud has also been reshaped, on the analogy of nouns to the attested Old Sumerian

Nute(m)mud

Anonymous ID: 76e33a Jan. 23, 2018, 4:17 a.m. No.258968   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>258967

 

Forgot the link on that article;

 

https://www.scribd.com/document/45692129/Whittaker-Milking-the-udder-of-heaven-2009

 

He also researches Sumerian having an Indo-European basis;

 

http://www.academia.edu/750431/Traces_of_an_early_Indo-European_language_in_Southern_Mesopotamia

Anonymous ID: 76e33a Jan. 26, 2018, 4:57 a.m. No.258990   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>8995

>>258987

 

>The genuine contributions to learning made by Olaus Wormius have in more recent years been supplanted by a fictional character given his name. H. P. Lovecraft mentioned him as a translator into Latin of his notorious fictional grimoire, the Necronomicon.

 

http://www.fact-index.com/o/ol/olaus_wormius.html