>>13546

>No baker wants to ghost during non-gy shifts.

No joke there.

Early in the board's history, there simply weren't many bakers to work with on day shift.

From experience, regular baking hours during earlier volunteer tenure were done while at work (employer didn't give a flying fuck as long as I got my regular assignments done).

Handoffs usually occurred when I had to leave for home. Impossible to bake behind the wheel.

Ideally, the handoff was a good one, when it happened, but after several calls for a handoff over multiple breads and a need to get home with no backup from Anons, ghosting became imminent; more frequent occurrence back then.

>>13503

Big red text and a clear conscience - pretty much. "Did what I could, have to go home. Let the Anons sort it out."

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Amazing more shills didn't completely fuck things back then.

Thankfully, with increased eyes on the board, more Anons stepped up as bakers during day shift (God bless RGB) and non-gy ghosting became less frequent.

>>13562

With late night baking, it makes more sense - more Ameribros asleep and American bakers crashing as well. Advocated strongly (still do!) for other bakers around the world to bake fresh during "late" American hours.

Was around February-March 2019 when the international threads really kicked off, largely owing to Q posting in them and the fact that the effort had indeed gone worldwide; mission sort-of accomplished on that front.

Regardless, was not uncommon to get into work early and pick up a super-slow ghost kitchen, sometimes right at the heel of a bread. Scrambling and succeeding on a last-minute bake is one hell of a way to start the day.

>daytime ghost thing is very diff

Different, but not without precedent.

The more Anons realize and act upon the fact that, yes, any Anon can bake, the less likely daytime ghosting will occur in the event no regular volunteers are present.

Suspect bystander effect plays a large role.

>last June, lots of board issues when I started

Any standout issues?

Was not present April 2019 - April 2020.

Been doing research/due diligence in reading up, but I would like to know more from your perspective.

>>13578

"Baker's Union" stems from late 2017, if memory serves.

Same shit, different year.

Arguments re: accountability, exclusivity, curation - the usual.

Assuming you and >>13583 referring to the Notables Creek incident re: FJ takeover.

Kind of astonishing that he - his BV crew, really, though that doesn't make him less complicit - waited so long to implement that attack after browbeating the keys away.

FJ either atoning or in zugzwang.

The bitter irony of them complaining about a "union", having become one themselves months prior…

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Props to all fighting that fight.

Doc, gyb, were you aware of board leadership changes (8bit withdrawal; FJ/BV inserts) prior to baking?

How much did Anons really know about who was on staff?

>>13603

More context re: earliest emergence of "Baker's Union":

Around 2017, the term was used as a means of rallying anyone who regularly baked to a point of community. There was a connotation of positivity, intended as a means of support.

Owing to the near-constant state of paranoia and high-and-mighty "y u no bake this right, baker is a shill, look at me for calling him out, gimme dem feelz" mentality, this positivity was short-lived.

Combination of board culture and shill influence.

Since, any sign of coordination between volunteers is immediately met with "muh Baker's Union".

The cogent, non-vainglorious arguments against a "union" are that, yes, any Anon can and should be able to bake, without a need to sign up for anything or give up anything more than the time required to bake; and, yes, shills have attempted to fuck with the kitchen in the past - giving them an avenue to insinuate themselves in a pseudo-"official" way could spell disaster (plot twist - a few did that anyway!).

Those who believe every spelling error or missed call is immediate grounds for a hijack attempt do not make these arguments; insert anecdote about monkeys being sprayed with water here.

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Too much opinion in the above few sentences.

Happy to discuss later (off to workfag).

Firstly, apologies for all the IP hopping.

Weird mechanics today owing to phonefagging.

>>13626

Back.

Re: >>13615, CAP 5:

The idea of "new names" springs from extended time spent in the kitchen between October 2018 - March 2019.

Plenty of rallies. Good times.

Not the healthiest thing in the world, though, putting in those kinds of hours.

Not 18-20 hours - impossible. Double digits most days though.

Again, not healthy.

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Paranoia is an infectious disease.

Easily mistaken for diligence.

Disastrous when mistaken for righteous action.

Fatal to any kind of team effort.

Pinnacle of vanity, truth be told - what is paranoia but absolute certainty that the world, indeed, revolves around you?

Again, not healthy.

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In all honesty, FJ is not the primary driver of the faggotry shown after taking up the mantle of BO.

Don't misunderstand - he is demonstrably guilty as fuck for being a tyrannical psychopath that nearly demolished this effort to fight the very same kind of corruption he knowingly implemented and enacted.

That said, he is not the only party involved.

The other BV, Pen, who had been part of /qr/ since its inception, had been begging 8bit for the keys well before 8bit ever withdrew and conferred responsibility to FJ. Prime driver of paranoia that convinced FJ to swing a proxy iron fist.

May not surprise you that two other BV's, instated just prior to 8bit's withdrawal, had joined in on the browbeating and powergrabbing behind the scenes as well. One of them was a "regular" baker beforehand, who it seems has not reappeared since 8kun fired up.

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Q's intervention stopped the crack from propagating further.

Canary in the coal mine, and the ultimate check against FJ craving ~~penis~~ power again.

Did FJ act out any time after Q called him out, or did he go full laissez-faire prior to 8ch shattering?

>>13629

>one BV who was pretty malicious

Can only speculate…

>3 days prior to deplatforming.

…Christ.

Don't hate him either, truth be told.

Based on the caps, they (FJ/BV's) made a monster for themselves to pretend to fight against.

It appears they made me out to be some kind of villain post-April (for leaving myself, suspected. Not my fault - can't say no to the COC, and not about to fuck that up any time soon). Owing to similarities in times/consistency, they assumed you (and others, apparently) and I were the same, gyb.

Literally tilting at windmills… while I was far away/incapable of hitting the boards, let alone baking.

…How pathetic is that…

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For what it's worth, Pen did hate Bakers - believed they had too much control over the breads, particularly with respect to Notables.

Of course, the bitter irony of him begging for control, on top of bringing on a "regular" baker as co-BV, cannot be overlooked as mere vainglory or cognitive dissonance.

Not to the extent his/others' actions affected the board, anyway.

>>13614

Ever have that trivia moment where you're sure you know, but you have to check to be sure?

Went and looked on history of Notables implementation.

Started Bread #755 with collections of #754, #753, and #751.

(Was really close with #760!)

"Rudimentary" is a polite description; Notables have come a long way.

Orders of magnitude, indeed.