8kun.top host tracking bun

all links PB

>>29777

>VanwaTech was removed from its network around the time of the Jan. 6 hearing on Tuesday.

>>29810

>I have some traceroutes from a few months ago to 8kun.top I can do some right now and compare

>>29811

>>29812

>v445261.hosted-by-vdsina.ru

>this trace route was done on June 2, 2022

>>29815

>just now

>>29817

>now I'll run a fresh one for today

>v441479.hosted-by-vdsina.ru

>different IP and unique prefix

>but same destination

>>29828

>something something I'm not fully correctly understanding.

>>29840

>Yea but, they were (allegedly) only there from sometime in June till the July shutdown,

>which nobody except for those people caught.

>>29845

>there arent any magic hops in there

>can someone tell me where vanwatech is?

>>29854

>is it related to:

>Dallas Level3 node is "allegedly" the node responsible for DDoSing Gregg Phillips livestream yesterday

>>29857

>>29860

>>29859

>>29858

>re: https://vdsina.ru/

>>29861

>>29867

>I still have some blank IP's with no descriptions to check that are right before the last hop

>this is the one from todays trace

>>29870

>I still have some blank IP's with no descriptions to check that are right before the last hop

>this is the one from todays trace

and here are the lookups for the IP's between Cogent Communications and vdsina.ru from June 2nd trace

185.15.209.28

185.15.210.61

ISP: MIRholding B.V.

Domain: mirhosting.com

Location: Netherlands

>>29877

>Look at Usage Type

Usage Type: (DCH) Data Center/Web Hosting/Transit

>>29867 (pb)

>>29868 (pb)

>Looks like a pass thru node connection

>>29870

>vdsina.ru

I am not even sure thats russia

at least not physicaly located in Russia

yeah its a .ru domain

but the IP address for the hop in the traceroute points to the Netherlands

v441482.hosted-by-vdsina.ru [195.2.92.96]

195.2.92.96

>>29927

I think its had its run, and done its job

if anyone needs the info its bunned nicely in plenty of breads now

ditch it

>>29926

>v441482.hosted-by-vdsina.ru [195.2.92.96]

>195.2.92.96

^^^those are from todays trace^^^

heres the string from Jun 2nd trace:

v441479.hosted-by-vdsina.ru [94.103.82.74]

94.103.82.74

all details exactly the same as June 2nd trace

same ISP

same Domain

same location

same (exact) GPS coords

Netherlands

notRussia

>>29929

>Netherlands

>notRussia

https://vdsina.ru/pricing/standard

Data centers in the EU and Russia

We provide a choice of several locations for hosting virtual servers

DataPro

-Moscow, Russia

Serverius

-Meppel, The Netherlands

Meppel, The Netherlands

YEP

thats the one

>>29931

>Meppel, The Netherlands

thats a proof, frens

8kun.top

comming to you from a datacenter in Meppel, The Netherlands

affectionatly named:

Serverius

>>29932

>affectionatly named:

>Serverius

Serverius yields some hits on qresear.ch

here is a traceroute from some anon circa Jan 17, 2021

interesting serverius named node in the trace

also

final hop is the same vdsina.ru domain

>>29933

I have not established the sauce for the connection yet

but, observably:

Vanwatech is -obviously- using vdsina.ru, specifically, their Serverius data center in Meppel, The Netherlands for the hosting of 8kun.top

I am going to need to see some actual evidence for these claims that 8kun.top links back to physical servers in Russia, or Lithuania, as is claimed in the Krebs article

It seems unlikely that Vanwatech randomly switched to some other datacenter provider (Psych Networks? in Los Angeles, CA) just to be IMMEDIATELY shut down at this new CA based datacenter by a phone call campaign

so that they could then just switch back to the Netherlands

a phonecall campaign fromWHO?

who the fuck noticed the switched from the Netherlands to Los Angeles?

(if that even happened)

-it wasnt any of us

And why switch from a known rock-solid provider out of the Netherlands right before the Jan 6 hearings?

All of this is suspicious as fuck

I am going to need to see some actual trace routes from when 8kun was allegedly routed through some Los Angeles based data center

>>29938

>Serverius data center in Meppel, The Netherlands

Serverius possible connections to Looking Glass?

Serverius possibly DoD servers?

>>29939

>not seeing serverius from my end though

hmmm, interesting indeed, ip lookup confirms

not moscow

not meppel netherlands

vdsina.ru only has 2 physical locations for standard VPS/VDS virtual servers

one in Moscow

one in the Netherlands

you see IP: 109.234.38.4

that shows:

Netherlands

Region: Noord-Holland

City: Duivendrecht

Still in the Netherlands

not Russia

but, odd that you see 8kun at a different phyiscal location than I do right now

>>29946

interesting

the only stateside hops I see are my own ISP in my home state

as soon as I leave my ISP's networks I hit a Level3.net node in stockholm,

then Stockholm Telecity1 Customer Network node

then vdsina.ru

>>29946

>Serverius just seems like a big-boy IT company,

whatever they are

vanwatech is using them for the hosting os 8kun.top, that is confirmed

>not particularly nefarious

kek

I am not making any claims yet

>>29942

>City: Duivendrecht

looks like vdsina.ru has some network infrastructure pointing to Duivendrecht as well

will file a more complete report of the return flight later

but

potato is back in DC

oddly

his flight back home from SA had a stopover at RAF Mildenhal Air Base, just outside Cambridge, UK

why the fuck did Potato stop here?

-no callsign

-lots of radar shut off

-squawk codes could use tracking +translation to Q drops

https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=adfdf8&lat=51.996&lon=-0.286&zoom=7.9&showTrace=2022-07-16&timestamp=1657995441

>>29976

>why the fuck did Potato stop here?

checking the timestamps for takeoff and landing

he was only on the ground at RAF Mildenhal for an hour MAX

>>29976

>lots of radar shut off

HUGE KEKS

Bidans return flight

-US Air Command decided to turn the radar back on at 17 hundred hours zulu time

I mean

come on

17 baby

/message well received

>>29983

>100th Air Refueling Wing

filling up the tank?

>>30031

historic Route 66 shirt?

nigg confirmed

Jim is currently in the 'hung out to dry' phase of the OP

I bet he us having all kinds of fun DM's with his newfound Q frens

>>30048

>they Notabled Jim's every post in the bread

now that is -fucking- cringe

>>30051

makes me feel about 1000 time more comfy about the LokiNet project....

.....not

>>30055

kek

sus coin

acurate

>>30064

>CM was going to launch an 8Chan satellite to bypass censorship........

so much vaporware

so many years ago now

would anyone here trust a CM 'comms platform' project at this point without some kind of clear distancing from his own father?

>>30071

that topkek

>>30072

thats an interesting update

the signal is spreading

Potato Flys Home

2022-07-16

Hex: ADFDF8

Registration: 82-8000

First Leg: SA to UK (RAF Mildenhal)

Radar off for [Heels Up] out of Jeddah, SA

Radar on over Adriatic Sea near Italy

-Radar turned on at 17:20:00 Zulu time (damn close to 17:17)

-callsign: 'empty callsign' (not AF1)

-First squawk code: 2041

-Squawk change at Italy/ Austria boarder

-Second squawk code: '0612

-Squawk change at UK coast (English Channel)

-Third squawk code: 0446

-[Heels Down] at RAF Mildenhal at Time: 19:19:20 Zulu

-[Heels Down] for ~1hr, most likely refueling?

RAF Mildenhall is a Royal Air Force (RAF) station located near Mildenhall in Suffolk, England.

Despite its status as a Royal Air Force station,

it primarily supports United States Air Force (USAF) operations,

and is currently the home of the 100th Air Refueling Wing (100 ARW)

Second Leg: UK (RAF Mildenhal) to Washington, DC

-[Heels Up] at RAF Mildenhal at Time: 20:21:37 Zulu (taxi'd to runway at 20:17, kek)

-callsign: 'empty callsign' (not AF1)

-First squawk code: 4227

Radar off crossing from Ireland to Atlantic Ocean

-Radar turned off at 21:17:38 Zulu time (21:17 ...lots of 17's)

Radar on crossing Cananda/ Maine boarder

-Radar turned on at 01:57:14 Zulu time

-Date is now 2022-07-17

-callsign: 'empty callsign' (not AF1)

-Second squawk code: 0703

HOLY FUCK, Potato actualy displayed 'AF1' callsign!!!

-and the habbening is FULL of comms

-ONLY displayed AF1 callsign over the STATE OF NY (which president is from New York?)

-AF1 callsign appearsEXACTLYat 2:45:45 Zulu time45:45

-which president is #45 again?

-coincidentallythey decided to do this on the17thday of July (2022-07-17)

-Squawk code does not change

-Squawk code: 0703 going in and comming out of NY

-what is Q #703?

-last timestamp with AF1 visible is 2:54:45 Zulu time54:45(mirrored)

Radar off on approach to Joint Base Andrews in DC

-Radar turned off at 03:25:38 Zulu time

-no timestamp for [Heels Down] in DC because radar off

well fuck, anons

any comments on Potato displaying the AF1 callsign over the Continental United States?

-thats a first right?

https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=adfdf8&lat=41.169&lon=-76.033&zoom=6.2&showTrace=2022-07-17&timestamp=1658026168

>>30080

>bigger habbenins in the works

>>30082

>any comments on Potato displaying the AF1 callsign over the Continental United States?

>-thats a first right?

kek

when did Scavino post that meme of POTUS walking up the stairs to AF1?

recommendation from techfag

-site is acting fucky

-new posts wont auto-update

-hitting the update button doesnt do anything

-try to refresh the page and you hit the Vanwatech error page

open a command prompt window

(in windblows, open with admin proveleged so it auto-starts in the system32 directory)

enter this string WITHOUT QUOTES:

"ipconfig /flushdns"

this will clear the you saved list of IP address's associated with website url's

and will force you to get a new 'fresh' IP address for 8kun.top the moment you hit enter

this has been working for me when I get stuck at the Vanwatech page, and refreshing wont clear it

it will sit there failing to load

and as SOON as I hit enter on the /flushdns the page loads just fine

>>30082

>any comments on Potato displaying the AF1 callsign over the Continental United States?

so

I posted this on Truth Social

and

for keks

I tagged the Air Force

I think they fucking responded to me

am I just sperging out here?

https://truthsocial.com/@SeanMDavis3/posts/108669142527225547

>here you can see 'empty callsign' on both sides of New York State boarder

>-flight was only 'AF1' over New York State "for some reason"

>@Airforce any comment?

...[30] minutes later...

U.S. Air Force

@Airforce

Just aircrew things. 😉

Follow us @Airforce for more! 🇺🇸 #Airforce #USAirforce

https://truthsocial.com/@Airforce/posts/108669271168919384

...???...

attempting to enhance the patch

(internally keking at patchfag/babyfart for being a nigger)

>>30106

>Just aircrew things

>17 tokens (characters)

nice catch

>>30107

>attempting to enhance the patch

resized a little bit

perhaps aids in perspective

>>30109

bottom banner says:

"(some number)th Airlift Squadron"

top banner is going to be the squadron motto

I think its something like:

"Flex the Wind"

but that doesnt get me any hits so its probably wrong, kek

and for reference sake

When we tracked Potato's flight TO SA

and ALSO called out no AF1 callsign

kekbees called out US Mil on the issue

and it seemed like we got a reply then as well

pic related

https://truthsocial.com/@SeanMDavis3/posts/108640906862652175

that was BEFORE Bidans return trip...

U.S. Air Force

@Airforce

An Airforce starry night. 🤩

Follow us @Airforce for more! 🇺🇸 #Airforce #USAirforce

https://truthsocial.com/@Airforce/posts/108640875820403470

>>30116

>and it seemed like we got a reply then as well

Dark to Light theme

aircraft is aC17

kek

>>30118

kek

yep

scrolling airlift squadron patches

LOTS of kekworthy stuff

quite a few with a "pelican" theme

aircraft with a pelican beak holding lots-o-stuff

morale unit patches are kekworthy as fuck

operation iraqi freedom had a lot of sweet patches

and in case things were not exciting enough;

8kun.top hasmoved

odd new IP seen as the last hop in a fresh trace route for 8kun.top

looking into it now

but this is odd

here is the text:

tracert 8kun.top

Tracing route to 8kun.top [23.163.176.2]

over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 5 ms 4 ms 4 ms OpenWrt.lan [192.168.1.1]

2 * * * Request timed out.

3 10 ms 9 ms 9 ms 172.102.104.100

4 * 9 ms 10 ms ae8---0.scr02.lsan.ca.frontiernet.net [74.40.3.49]

5 11 ms 11 ms 11 ms ae1---0.cbr06.lsan.ca.frontiernet.net [45.52.201.143]

6 9 ms 9 ms 8 ms be6679.rcr21.b020604-0.lax01.atlas.cogentco.com [38.88.245.25]

7 10 ms 11 ms 11 ms la2.gslnetworks.com [103.137.13.168]

8 9 ms 9 ms 12 ms lax.scrub.gslnetworks.com [103.137.13.205]

9 143 ms 143 ms 148 ms 103.137.13.51

10 166 ms 167 ms 167 ms 31.217.251.115

11 226 ms 234 ms 244 ms 61138.cust.gslnetworks.com [103.137.13.153]

12 256 ms 236 ms 243 ms 23.163.176.2

Trace complete.

>>30121

>23.163.176.2

thats the last IP in the trace

lookup says...

https://www.ip2location.com/demo/23.163.176.2

>>30121

>61138.cust.gslnetworks.com [103.137.13.153]

second to last hop

thats australia

gslnetworks.com.au

STREAMLINE SERVERS PTY LTD - Anycast

31.217.251.115

third to last hop

that Los Angeles, CA

gslnetworks.com

GSL Networks Pty Ltd - Anycast

103.137.13.51

fourth to last hop

back to australia

gslnetworks.com.au

STREAMLINE SERVERS PTY LTD - Anycast

103.137.13.205

fifth to last hop

australia

gslnetworks.com.au

STREAMLINE SERVERS PTY LTD - Anycast

103.137.13.168

sixth to last hop

australia

gslnetworks.com.au

STREAMLINE SERVERS PTY LTD - Anycast

38.88.245.25

seventh to last hop

first hop outside of my own ISP

Los Angeles, CA

cogentco.com

Citizens Telecom Services Company DBA Frontier Communications

weird

Frontier is my isp

Cogent Communications is something I have seen in between me and 8kun.top in all of my historical traces....

Cogent Communications is a DBA of Frontier?

...possbily

but it looks like Vanwatech is hoping us around australia now instead of the netherlands

and we are landing at an actual named vanwatech ip

not the VDSina.ru ip we were landing at before

>>30126

>looks like Vanwatech is hoping us around australia now

using: gslnetworks.com

previous traces for reference

>>30165

>Why does my ID keep changing?

I think because 8kun.top is hoping around all over the place

its not bouncing through the netherlands as of this morning

was bouncing back and forther between Los Angeles, CA and Australia

I have to keep flushing my dns cache or I get stuck at the vanwatech error page

>>30180

>does changing servers count as being towed from place to place?

kek

I would wager so

being towed to "safe harbor" ?

>>30189

>welcome to early 2021

yep yep

this has happened before

this was happening a few days ago

right when the site was coming back up after the Jan 6 hearing knock-out

it was doing exactly this

>>30201

>this trace is from a few hours ago

looks like were back to the netherlands

back through the vdsina.ru domain>>30200

>right when the site was coming back up after the Jan 6 hearing knock-out

>it was doing exactly this

all links pb

>>29319

>UID Fuckery Tracker

>>29330

>pics related

>>30205

>previous posts text still in the text box

ffs

fuck this site

>>30211

>yeah, this place is fucked bigly in an IT way

confirmed

>>30218

>no sign of it during my hops

interesting

this place is gettin wierder and wierder

>>30232

kek

US Naval Institute keeping the lines open

more interesting US Naval Institute

U.S. Naval Institute

@NavalInstitute

#OTD in 1926 during the U.S. occupation of Haiti, Marine Warrant Officer Faustin Wirkus was crowned Faustin II, king of the island of La Gonave, by the natives who believed he was the reincarnation of Emperor Faustin I. He reigned for 3 years before the Marines reassigned him.

https://twitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1549107698049978368?cxt=HHwWgMC80c3PxP8qAAAA

>headline: THE SPY WHO DEFIED THE F.B.I.

>reference to Haiti

>'The bloody life and forture of gangster AL CAPONE'

interesting

U.S. Naval Institute

@NavalInstitute

#OTD in 1958, the destroyer HMAS Vendetta (D08) rammed the Alfred Dock caisson after engaging the engines for the first time during builder's trials. A sailor had mistakenly relayed an order of "half astern" as "half ahead." The accident added 3 months to the construction time.

https://twitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1549211886712913922

>moar vessel ramming COMMS

>accidental FRIENDLY FIRE ramming (Q team hiting 8kun?)

>vessel named 'Vendetta' does the ramming (grudge?)

>caused by mis-COMM-unication (J-crew fake Q's?)

>delays construction of Destroyer 3 months (Q drops that were supposed to re-start have been delayed?)

interseting in relation to current 8kun.top habbenings

>>30261

>do you have a hook up for your whole house

not yet

but a 'generator transfer switch' is one of my next wiring projects to tackle

the generator is absolutely big enough to power the whole home

but its an octopus of extension cords until I get the transfer switch installed at the main panel

>>30259

this is pretty disturbing

even if he did post it on his own telegram

thats a fucking wierd thing to post

>>30269

>Daniel Scavino Jr. is in Manhattan, New York.

further confirmation that Dan is at POTUS side at all times

>>30275

>Bethesda Naval Hospital....the first U.S. Secretary of Defense, James Forrestal, was suicided by nefarious forces. Threw him out of a 13th floor window

US Naval Institute has made previous COMMS about Forestal

dasting connection

>>30279

yeah he knew too much

WWII was one HELL of a psyop

mebe ol' Forestal didnt think it was the greatest idea in the world to allow the Nazi's to set up shop in the United States

homeboy got mk-altered with some of sandoz pharmaceuticals finest prodect

and then

for some reason

he did a flip

just to be very clear

he was absolutely stable until (((they))) started feeding him el es deeeez

supply chain fuckery...

I have a fren that works on tug boats in Hawaii

tug boat company holds the largest contract on the west coast for tug services

he tells me they were just put on a ration for purchasing of engine oil for their diesel engines

they are only allowed to purchase 400 gallons

each tug they operate requires 200 gallons for an oil chage

they change the oil about every 3 months

fren tells me that his tug company is going to have to start shutting down some parts of its operation in about 3-4 months if they dont get more engine oil

It isnotbeing reported on

this is all I could find relating to the story:

EXCLUSIVE RESEARCH: Diesel engine oil additive manufacturers that have declared Force Majeure or experienced disrupted operations in 2022

https://www.naturalnews.com/2022-06-23-diesel-engine-oil-additive-manufacturers-that-have-declared-force-majeure.html#

>>30292

LIVE NOW

I have been noticing a kind of synchronized posting on Truth Social from each service branch around the same time in the AM pst

here is this morning

>>30303

>here is this morning

here is a couple days ago

>>30304

just crossed 10,000 watching

>>30317

May she forever rest in peace.

Godspeed, sir

>>30322

absolutely they censor content

-anything illegal, obviously

-anything that is not "family friendly"

its not 4/pol/ without mods, guys

its a FREE SPEECH, "family values" platform

think of it like

home soil

inside the castle walls

best behavior +mind your manners

posting "faggot this" and "faggot that" and "everyones a fucking nigger" is going to get your post censored

Is this what dailybeast is calling out?

or are they referring to like "actual" censorship of new stories

>>30099

>airforce AF1 comms (topkek)

>>30107

>>30109

>>30115

>>30118

>>30119

>but what about that fucking patch

PATCH IDENTIFIED

22nd Airlift Squadron confirmed

motto = OVER THE HUMP

"...

The 11,000 to 13,000-foot, jungle-clad Owen Stanley Range of New Guinea, known as "the Hump,"[note 1] was commemorated on the unit emblem, approved on17 June 1944, and still in use to this day.[2]

..."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/22nd_Airlift_Squadron

@airforce Truth Social account COMMS confirmed

>>30345

>how did you end up finding it?

group dig on Truth Social

mutlitple anons found it at the same time

kek

want to have even more fun?

I found the flight that picture was taken on

okay

so

That dude in the Truth Social post has a 22nd Airlift Squadron patch

22n Airlift Squadron flies C-5 Galaxies

So, what has the 22nd Airlift Squadron been up to recently?

this:

Travis Aircrew delivers missile defense satellite

Published July 18, 2022

"...

U.S. Air Force Capt. Justin L. Wilson, 22nd AS C-5 evaluator pilot, led the mission.

“We on-loaded the satellite in its specialized container with its support equipment at Moffett Federal Airfield, California, and delivered it to Cape Canaveral, Florida, for its eventual launch,” said Wilson.

The mission occurred May 31 to June 7.

..."

https://www.travis.af.mil/News/Article/3096385/travis-aircrew-delivers-missile-defense-satellite/

okay

so we have a timeframe

and we have departure and arrival airfields

but

whats the fucking tailnumber?

this looks like a nice resource:

The Chronological History of the C-5 Galaxy

https://www.amc.af.mil/Portals/12/documents/AFD-131018-052.pdf

look at that, ALL of the tailnumbers for the C-5's at Travis Airbase (where the 22nd is stationed)

because kek likes me

the first fucking tailnumber I tried resulted in pics related

tail number: 87-0044

flying to and from the exact airfields from the mission in the article on the exact dates of the mission

folks

thats our aviator

>>30368

thanks for posting these anon

check the @airforce Truth account this morning

think mirror

>>30374

>Imagine being this dumb

double vaxxes and tripple boosted

eagerly awaiting her next booster

gets short of breath climbing even a single flight of stairs now

not concerned about it

>>30384

OMFG this is real?

The Kevin Sorbo one.

...and the Lou Ferrigno one as well.

wow

that is fucking fire

>>30398

agreed

hence

zero delta's/ AF1 pics or bust

and I have a feeling

based on last drop re: [Wheels Up]

and POTUS (now having been delayed a week) rally in AZ may be the first sighting of Trump Force One N757AF

would be interesting to get pics from N757AF's first flight with POTUS on-board

one would presume taken from Dan's phone

kek

anons can dream

>>30400

kek

>>30402

>I personally think the holdup is the direct messaging.

as in, DM's on Truth?

kek @possibly calling the feature 'whispers'

>>30400

something perhaps interesting

the airforce truth with the guy from (now discovered) 22nd airlift squadron

that squadron was just 'in the news' performing a mission delivering a cybersecurity satellite for launch in FL

that flight (which I am 99% sure is the actual flight the Truth Social post image was taken on) was squawking 1029 for the last leg

I looked up some possible Q drops that might connect to that number for shits and giggles

129 is perhaps interesting

POTUS silent on Truth for the last 1.5 hours

>>30411

>the zero delta could be coming.

also true

patiently tracking

>>30411

if this OP zero-delta's with POTUS and ONLY POTUS

I will build the proof immediately

by the way

has ANYONE figured out how we get seconds place timestamps from Truth Social now that qagg.news went shoah

>>30420

>https://qaggregator.news/

WINNING

thank you anon

seems pretty fake and gay

I

...slant I

>>30441

keks with extra salt

>>30446

well

there was this one time

at Cicada camp

but those drops are so thecret you can only see them with remote viewing

>>30451

>probably a flag of the Philippines

if you did a trace route

there would be AT LEAT 3.33 hops in the state of Arizona

and hour since the OP and not even 100 posts

/yawn

>>30455

>Just real funny.

kek

agreed

>>30462

>OSS is always right

god damnit

kek always find a way to toss a (You) your way

>>30467

>on the move

>misspellings matter

>disinfo is essential

>Kew

>>30469

>Once we asked for a ZD "Q" stopped posting

finger is poised over the reply button

partner agent is furiously refreshing truth social

they are feeling lucky

tbh

Italian Prime Minister resigning today +Italian parliment folding is way more dasting than this faggot

>>30507

hell yes

def gonna watch that

>>30575

TOP KEK

>>30575

funny enough

I have noticed the same thing around certain "areas" around where I live

when I am out driving, attempting to post here from the cell

there are certain areas that are saturated with IP's that are all global banned on 8kun for very similar threats of violence

ALL of it "MAGA RIOTS" style

there are some areas I literally can not post from

I have to drive far enough away

cycle airplane mode to get the phone to hit a new cell tower

and then try again from the IP's provided from cell towers outside of that zone

>>30589

>when millions/billions of people watch it, it has a higher chance of happening

its absolutely this

they "plant the seed" first (something that "becomes" popular)

then they "water the seed" (re-enforce the popularity +adoption of this thing/ idea)

then they "harvest" the energy when the fruit is ripe for the picking

Its my belief that numerology play into this paradigm such that:

They plant a seed

in so doing they set an intention

part of their intention will be some set of symbolic numbers/ letters

these are often referred to as "sigils" in the 'craft'

At the initial planting stage, this sigil will be inserted many places

subliminaly

and clearly out in the open

this sigil will be used in the watering phase as well

branding/logo's/etc

once the intention has been set, and the sigil has been propogated sufficiently

the "caster" of the given "spell" will then "observe" events as they occur

when the caster obsserves the "random occurance" of the pre-selected numbers/ letters just "pop up" around the intended sphere of influence

then the caster knows that the seed is "growing fruitfully"

that is to say

there isnt some illuminati number house that consciously places events on symbolic dates/ timestamps

I think the fact that a particular event does/ or doesnt line up with a pre-selected symbolic set of numbers/ letters is an kind of "guage of the current consciousness" in relation to the spell being cast

the more often, and more consistently the pre-selected numbers/ letters that are part of a specific spells sigil "pop up" out of the ether

the "stonger" that spells current effect on the intended target set

>>30594

>then they "harvest" the energy when the fruit is ripe for the picking

a critical mass (I dont know the number, but I have a feeling there is a fairly universal metric for making this determination) of "random occurances" of your pre-selected numbers/letters (sigil) would indicate the target set is ripe for harvest

>>30600

>Which implies they already have a system in place and know how to use the collective consciousness to achieve their desired outcomes

that would be correct

6000 year old death cult

"Babylonian Mystery Schools"

"Occult Black Magic"

>>30603

its all good anon

it can hit you like a pile of bricks sometimes

the weight of realization

no appologies necessary

we are all waking up together

>>30607

>but I never thought the cabal was weaponizing fear, hate and so on

weaponizing?

that isliterallywhat lower demonic entities consume for life energy

its called "loosh"

they use fear

not becuase it is the most powerful driver of consciousness (its not, that place is held by Truth)

but because it generates that which they need to continue their existence on this plane

lower forms of emotional energyaretheir food

>>30618

"the left hand path"

>>30598

>I am not talking about the newtonian paradigm though. I am talking about a quality of consciousness

right

the newtonian paradigm came AFTER the mystery schools "figured this out" (i.e. how to manipulate collective consciousness)

much of modern science-ism is merely a re-packaging of that which was discovered long ago

except, based ONLY in the physical

a purely physical explanation to deceive the masses into believeing incorrectly how the world operates

Sir Francis Bacon, the father of the scientific method, believed in the concept of Ether.

Ether:

A non-physical realm of pure consciousness from which all "form" eminates

it can be defined in many ways, but it relates to a non-physical space, that is influenced by consciousness and itself has influence over manifestation in our physical experience

This concept, 'ether' was present in MODERN science up until about the 1920's

and was fully erradicated from "accepted science" by about the 1950's

thinking about things in terms of purely newtonian cause and effect is a MASSIVE element of the deception we are waking up from

>>30615

>Again I just never thought about it in terms of quantifiable belief/emotion manifestation through consciousness.

precisely

because our modern "schooling" wont allow us to think that way

I argue, for the specific reason of HIDING this plain fact from our very eyes

we see it plainly

but hesitate to name it for what it is because of decades of "school programming" about how the physical world works

There is no unseen mover!

No spooky actions at a distance!

• 'cause Einstein says so

>>30624

>otherwise known as serving Satan.

weather knowingly or unknowingly

when you walk that path

you serve the master of that path

absolutely

>>30627

a great example of a modern "scientific thinker"

one whom many 'in the community' still reference regularly

that absolutely dealt with the concept of ether

>>30629

kek

"google says"

>>30629

>It's called .... hive mind

the statement is approved by kek

>>30629

I think all "inspiration" comes from the ether

I have experience too many times now, multiple different people comming up with the same idea around the same time, with ZERO connection to eachother to explain the related discoveries

I think when you are in a deeply 'creative' state, what you are actually feeling that makes you call that state "creative" is a direct connection to the ether

and when you have that "light bulb moment"

the realization was something sitting in the ether, waiting to be pulled out

you (for whatever reason) took on a resonance that MATCHED that thing (whatever it is) sitting in the ether

and

by the law of quantum entaglement

by virtue of shared resonance

the idea and your concious mind become the 'same place at the same time'

and boom

you have a thought you have never had before in your entire life

and perhaps

on the other side of the globe

some other person ALSO has the same exact thought for the first time in their life

and perhaps it is the first time that thought has even been thought on this plane of existence

thus, something NEW was just born into existence

I think "everything" that has ever happened and ever will happen exists in the ether

some call this the 'akashik records'

but I dont think every person who connects to the ether connects to ALL THINGS

I think the ether has levels of potential

like some things have a higher degree of potential than others

and I have no idea how or why

I just think that is the state of things

and I believe what a specific individual receives from the ether is dependent on the concept of "relevence"

you dont get access to things that are not relevent to your current resonance

Nothing on adsb for Trump Force One (N757AF) yet

I have a feeling Trump is going to leave for AZ from Bedminster NJ

If I dont see N757AF leave Louisiana at some point in the next few hours I am going to assume Trump is flying on a different plane to AZ

kek

another round of watching the local airport close to Trumps stage timeslot to scan for private G5's

>>30641

>And it's physically effortless

this

I was just having a discussion about this with my father

every time we have had a "personal best" in any sporting pursuit

it felt like we were running on air

bicycle racing its the days you dont even feel your legs

in fighting its the days you feel invincible

not because you are struggling so hard

whenever I have "struggled" and "strained" to force myself to "to better" than I had in me on a given day

I have come up short

the harder I try to squeeze those last couple of tenths of a second, the more full seconds slip out of my grasp

but, the days that feel like its, just as you said, "effortless"

those are ALWAYS the days I hit a new record

or beat an opponent I normally loose to

In sports it is almost universally referred to as being "in the Zone"

I absolutely believe this "zone" is a connection to the ether

and again, it is dependent on relevence and resonance

when you are in a sporting pursuit and you connect to the ether you will get different "inspirations" than when you are in a music pursuit and connect to the ether

but you are connecting to the same "non-physical place of pure consciousness"

Going to take a moment to point out:

You couldnt discuss this topic on /qresearch/ during dayshift

the sliding/shilling/religion lawyers would drown out any meaningful realizations that could have occured

this is STRICTLY a /graveyard/ shift discussion topic

having fond memories of many graveyards gone by

the conversations we have here about these topics are no less revealing than the letters between socrates, plato and aristotle

and so many others over the ages

we are the mystery school now

no more blackmail required for entry

thank you for sharing what you actually think

as vulnerable as that can be

even on an anonymous mongolian basket weaving forum

>>30645

fuck anon

that is deeply profound

I have ABSOLUTELY felt the "lust" to putMYring back on

and following the path of that LUST for my own state of perfection has NEVER been fruitful

thats how I injure myself

thats how I rationalize spending less time with the ones I live in the pursuit of "training"

for me, at least;

it when I get "lost in the moment"

when I dedicate myself to the good, the true and the beautiful

even when that means I have to sacrifice things I have 'told myself' that I wanted

that is when, almost by some act of magic, the ring will pop on

fleeting as it is

almost like as soon as you notice its there

it runs away from sight

its almost like

you are only GIVEN this thing when you are in a place and state where you can do GOOD with it

AND

conversely

if you REALY WANT to do BAD with it

there is a fucking PRICE

and if you pay the price

you get the ring

every fucking time

and [these people] know exactly what the price is

and which motherfucker to pay it to

>>30647

>Also (((they))) seem to think that doing this avoids karma.

A great point I had not addressed yet

(holy shit, "I" had not adressed.... fucking ego man... I typed that, and then immediately noticed how cringy it looked, kek)

yeah

they "believe" that if they TELL YOU TO YOUR FACE what they are going to do to you

and you still "take the deal"

then the "karmic consequences" are absolutely 100%ON YOU

and I believe that too

like, literally

they are just little scheemy fuckers about it

and do not genuinly give you informed consent

if theyACTUALLYgave informed consent

then I totally believe they would be absolved of karmic debt

for example

"Hello fellow anon. I would like to offer you this free piece of cheese.

If you eat the cheese, you WILL get sick, and may or may not die.

But its FREE cheese.

Your choice to eat it or not.

You could totally go toil in that field like you have been doing.

FREE (poison) cheese offer still on the table."

clearly stated

face to face interaction

both parties know they engaging in an offer in commerce

If you eat that cheese

that shit is on you

literally

And I dont even think what they are doing by making such an offer is immoral

I think its allowed here

I cant explain that very well

but I believe it to be true

but;

the subliminal messaging in the current full-scale MKUltra psyop that is "media" in the 21st century does not, in my opinion, qualify as "informed consent"

>>30649

personally

its been a very individual thing

I tend to stick to individual pursuits

but fighting, for example, requires the opponent, at least in the context of a sparring match

and there is an interesting melding of minds that happens in a fight

>Never have I thought about mal-purpose when I'm "in the zone".

I have absolutely received "malicious" inspirations

it is dependent on my state

but I have received "wisdom" about how to act out incredibly dark things

I dont know if that is from trauma in my past

or if that is literally from connecting to the ether while having a "lower" resonance at the time

I suspect the latter

I really believe in the concept of relevence

you connect to what is curently relevent to you

I believe "what is relevant" to you depends on your life path generally, in combination with what you set your intention to generally, in combination with what/how you are feeling at the exact moment you do it

which is I believe explains a large part of the "mechanics" of a given "ritual"

you have to set an intention towards a specific thing to gain acess to a specific wisdom

and you literally have to be in a certain emotional/ physical state

which is why I think self-harm is so prominent in the "dark arts"

you have to be in pain to gain access to certain pieces of "dark wisdom"

>>30652

>Ego wants no ego? Always ego always.

massive keks