Strelok ID: 919680 June 16, 2019, 6:27 a.m. No.678912   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>8980

>>678902

>>678902

>varmint gun

>.30-30 v .45-70

For everything you want to drop, a .357 would do comfortably, and would get you more rounds in the mag tube.

If you're dead set between the two of them, go .30-30. Hope you're planning on getting a reloading setup for it.

Strelok ID: 919680 June 17, 2019, 2:23 a.m. No.679114   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun

>>679035

I won't try to say your wrong for wanting to expand your caliber selection, but at the same time it feels like you're stretching yourself thin for not stacking your guns to your pre-existing ammo. I've got some land in the boonies myself, and have both a S&W 686 and a winchester 1873 clone in 357. Posting a vid that kinda outlines why it's a good pairing, and why I think for your next step, it'd be a reasonable next purchase.

Otherwise, >>679111 brings up some great points: the 30-30 and the 357 both fall in a pretty similar range of game, with the big difference being effective distance. A 357 will drop an elk, but past 150 yards, you're gonna be far less lethal. A 30-30 however, would be as effective at 400 yards to the 357's 150 yards. Neither load however, is gonna guarantee a kill without decent placement, whereas a 45-70 could comfortably kill an elk with any hit save for extremely poor placement.

Strelok ID: 919680 July 17, 2019, 8:36 p.m. No.684605   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>4642

>>684588

>ackshually

I don't wanna mince hairs here, but in order to get it to fit into an AR compatible format, they used a different casing. I has a longer profile, but uses the same loads, the same grain tips, and executes these with the same velocities and penetration. It's the same shit, different skin.

As to whether or not a living human bean could handle the recoil in a revolver setup (what it sounds like you're going for), yeaโ€ฆit's got comparible kick to a 44 magnum in a 10" barrel. It's got far less diameter to throw downrange, so the burn is gonna be much more efficient with the longer case, and you can load it lighter if you honestly plan on using it for self defense (just up your grain to 200, and enjoy the balance of a shot hitting your assailant at 1600fps with way hilarious knockdown potential).

 

I'll be completely honest with you however, you're wasting your money if you're just looking for a self defense gun. It's gonna be much bigger than a shorter barrel 357, it's gonna costs far more than most revolver offerings; you could get a very lightly used 44 magnum for substantially less. It's gonna be heavy on your hip, be a bitch to sit down, and ultimately you'll find yourself wearing it less and less. I'd just get a concealable 357 in a lighter frame, and keep some 38s available for range time. The whole point of going for a maximum is for the flat trajectory across long distances. This is the biggest boon, and one you wouldn't even get to utilize since you'd be shooting at much closer distances than what it was designed for. If you feel a 44 isn't enough protection, go to a 454 instead. You'll probably be paying comparible prices at that point tho.

Strelok ID: 919680 July 18, 2019, 5:43 a.m. No.684645   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun

>>684643

There's a lot of retarded comments all springing up within minutes of one another right now. I'm willing to believe it's some random newfag who doesn't know dick about guns using a VPN, than I am to believe our streloks all just went full retard at the same time.

Sorry if that bothers you.

Strelok ID: 919680 July 30, 2019, 2:54 a.m. No.686992   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun

>>686954

Since most statistics regarding officers tends to be fucked up and wrong, I'd be willing to believe that the 68 deaths were from officers riding said horses/mules and falling off. Of those, probably only 7 was while on duty. Just like I don't believe that brown recluse death happened while in the line of duty.

 

Seriously, why is there zero oversight to cop statistics? Who's making all this money to skew shit as much as possible?