>>628555

They make a 9" barrel for Glock 40.

One of my backburner projects is to make detachable should stock for various semi-long barrel handguns that would double as a water/dust proof container/holster.

The idea being like you said a "woodsgun" that you don't need to worry about in rough but with 9" barrel and shoulder stock it should be pretty good. The container would also of course hold extra ammo, etc, maybe even scope.

Guns on my list for this would be Glock 40 in 9", Deagle 44mag in 10", and Ruger Blackhawk in 357/9mm and 22lr/22mag in 6.5" and 9.5".

Paper mockup says a holster for 6.5" Blackhawk about right size for shoulder stock.

Yeah, I know I can't do it in CA (though maybe for Hollywood use), and need an extra $200SBR tax elsewhere.

seems like old Russian 7.62x25 is about perfect for submachine gun, and able to be normal pistol mag so could be used in that config of SMG such as Uzi.

Seems ahead of its time before the PDW craze AND able to defeat common IIIA body armor.

Why did it fade away?

>>654213

>>7.62x25 is about perfect for submachine gun

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>Well, that's not really true.

yeah, but for SMG/PDW ain't it all about balance between power and recoil, with x25 sitting between 9mm(too little) and 30 carbine(too much)?

The x25 is just BARELY short enough to fit into a pistol grip mag, and using a grip mag means the whole gun can be shorter. Plus the x25 will be about the softest shooting round that is threat to Level IIIA soft body armor at close range.

357 is gonna be problematic in SMG since its designed for revolver. 9x25 Dillion sounds neat and on my list in Glock 40 with 9"barrel, but they say Dillion is fading, whereas x25 Russian has massive history behind it.

If it ain't broke don't fix it.

>>655297

good points, like x25 being too big as double stack.

so what do you recommend? 9mm Dillion?

Sounds good. IMO the military should adopt the 10mm Glock family, since they also shoot .40 with same mag, etc, and Glock 40 comes with off the shelf 9" barrel in both 10mm and 9mm Dillion and there are off the shelf "stocks".

Did I mention one of my back burner projects is to make weather proof Holster/Stock combos for a variety of longish barrelled hand guns? As a holster you'd push a button or flip a lever and the main door would snap open and another spring would "present" the gun for easy grabbing of grip. Then, if needed, you'd take the hard case out of the soft bag it was riding in and attach it to bottom of backstrap of gun for a stock. My mockups say the length of such a hard holster for 9" barrel Glock and/or Blackhawk 357 6.5" barrel is about perfect for semi-short stock if attached to bottom of grip.

>>654213

>>>654022 (You)

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>Good luck. i suggest looking up ways that existing stocks are attached if you haven't already done that.

>>654022 (You)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7K2S__gA1lg

this model just shoves into the back-strap cavity, and I guess gets naturally re-shoved with every shot. But you could drill a hole in back of back-strap and include a button in the insert to "lock" it into the gun if desired, so you could throw the whole thing down a flight of stairs and it would stay together. Army likes that kind of thing. I also notice in the video he seems to like shooting with the stock attached but not using the stock, maybe just enjoying the extra mass and "moment arm" to keep the Glock from flipping. IMO it should be easy to incorporate a proper Arm Brace feature into a shoulder-stock/holster hard case. Probably just 1 or 2 firm but flex plastic or plastic coated spring-steel straps that would normally lie against the hard case but you could slide your forearm between them and case. I guess they'd also be good for hanging off Molle.

>>661389

>big mess that little can be rationally done without going into complete unfucking of all the bullshit that has piled up

what "big mess"?

I have heard that some consider the Gen3 to be the best, and that everything after such as duplex main spring didn't really add anything, and that Gen4 G19 have issues, etc.

Maybe plastic gun not the choice if you want gun that can take military strength abuse AND remain in inventory for 50+yrs.

>>636178

>7.62x25 sounds like it would allow pistol and PDW/SMG to use same ammo, which is what they had in old days with that round. Only issue like you said before is just a bit too big for double stack pistol mag (for all you people with little rat-claw hands)