>>114064

tb

>>114036 ob

>But "the law" doesn't do anything

>>114059 ob

>the law is a social contract that starts with a shared moral code.

>without this contract, as I keep trying to tell you, there would be no Constitution and no 2A and your guns would be long gone. like they are everywhere else in the world.

>without a shared morality, no social contract can be sustained.

>and without religion, there can be no shared morality.

for example, one of you says religion is for betas, that chads gets laid without it, and also that killing is inherently wrong and we know that intuitively.

Without religion there's no basis for marriage.

What happens when chad fucks your gf?

Is killing still wrong?

>>114067

>Only the ones with a permit.

in a lawless state there are no permits.

It's another topic but I agree with what you're saying about marriage.

The point about chad fucking someone's gf, is some guys will kill chad for it and some won't, and killing won't be considered illegal or immoral in any absolute sense.

Whereas under Christian law, there are absolutes about not killing and not screwing your neighbor's wife and they are coded in the legal system. There's clear agreement on what you can and can't do, and society has been relatively stable for 2 thousand years.

Without religion, what you'd have instead is people killing each other arbitrarily, blood feuds, blood in the streets, society in disrepair. Your gf couldn't go to the store by herself. etc. And the elite, having a strong legal system and infinitely more arms and resources, would easily conquer you.