The Nazis won the War in many senses, ways and aspects – but it’s all outside the purview of mainstream historical thinking

https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-12-11-nazis-won-the-war-in-many-senses.html

The Nazis won the War in many senses, ways and aspects – but it’s all outside the purview of mainstream historical thinking. You’ll have to dig deep to see the truth of it.

(Article by Makia Freeman republished from HelenaStales.Weebly.com)

The shocking fact is that top Nazi leaders, technology, money, weapons and people (engineers, scientists and technicians) were safely escorted out of Germany before May 1945, the end of World War 2 in Europe.

Both before and during the War, the Nazis had established bases outside of Germany, and in 1944, aware that defeat was looming, they found a way to secretly get their money out. When I say that really, the Nazis won the War, I don’t mean Nazi as figurative term or as a general term to describe fascists or authoritarians.

I mean the actual original Nazis of the 3rd Reich from 1933 – 1945 in Germany, the leaders of the NSDAP (translated as the National Socialist German Workers Party), as distinct from the rank-and-file Germans who followed them, and of course the rest of the Germans who didn’t.

The Nazis always had friends in high places right from the start, as we will see, and these same powers ensured that Nazi personnel, technology and ideology lived on in other places and ways (whether through invitation and infiltration, or discreet and discrete continuation) – as it does until this day.

How the Nazis Won the War: The Bormann Organization, Reich in Exile and Hidden Multinational Corporations.

The Nazis may have “officially” lost World War 2, but the top ones escaped – and their influence continues to this day. In addition to infiltrating the ranks of the CIA, NASA and other US Government agencies (by invitation), in-exile Nazis set up a massive economic network comprised of 750 corporations in neutral countries.

This wasn’t due to Hitler, but rather Reichsleiter (Empire director) Martin Bormann, an organizational genius and the personal secretary of Hitler. The Bormann Organization controlled Germany’s major corporations and had considerable influence in America.

Bormann, known as the “Brown Eminence”, successfully fled Europe for South America and administered a “Reich in Exile” in the years following the war. Nazi gold was taken to New York law firm Sullivan and Cromwell (where Allen Dulles worked, who went on to become the CIA director and JFK assassination mastermind).

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>>115067

Have often wondered who the real residents of Jerusalem were post WWII, suspected similar to Operation Paperclip.

Perhaps why saved for last?

>>115069

N(azi) World Order

Except Q said it wasn't NAZI, subgroup, but which

How And Why Israel Was Founded In 1947 Illuminati, Nazis & The Illegal State of Israel

https://www.newyork.org/history/how-and-why-israel-was-founded-in-1947

South America 2008 (159)If we wish to end the Israeli/Palestinian conflict, we need to know who created Israel and why. In 1917 British Foreign Secretary Arthur Balfour penned a letter to Zionist Second Lord Lionel Walter Rothschild in which he expressed support for a Jewish homeland on Palestinian-controlled lands in the Middle East.

This Balfour Declaration justified the brutal seizure of Palestinian lands for the post-WWII establishment of Israel. Israel would serve, not as some high-minded “Jewish homeland”, but as lynchpin in Rothschild/Eight Families control over the world’s oil supply. Baron Edmond de Rothschild built the first oil pipeline from the Red Sea to the Mediterranean to bring BP Iranian oil to Israel. He founded Israeli General Bank and Paz Oil and is considered the father of modern Israel.

The Rothschilds are the planet’s wealthiest clan, worth an estimated $100 trillion. They control Royal Dutch/Shell, BP, Anglo-American, BHP Billiton, Rio Tinto, Bank of America and scores of other global corporations and banks. They are the largest shareholders in the Bank of England, the Federal Reserve and most every private central bank in the world. They needed a footprint in the Middle East to protect their new oil concessions, which they procured through Four Horsemen fronts like the Iranian Consortium, Iraqi Petroleum Company and Saudi ARAMCO.

Rothschild’s Shell and BP formed these cartels with the Rockefeller half of the Four Horsemen- Exxon Mobil and Chevron Texaco. This new alliance required a “special relationship” between Great Britain and the US, which still exists today. Rothschild and other wealthy European shareholders could now utilize the United States military as a Hessianized mercenary force, deployed to protect their oil interests and paid for by US taxpayers. Israel would serve the same purpose in closer proximity to the oilfields. The Israeli Mossad is less a national intelligence agency than it is a Rothschild/Rockefeller family security force.

The Rothschilds exert political control through the secretive Business Roundtable, which they created in 1909 with the help of Lord Alfred Milner and Cecil Rhodes- whose Rhodes Scholarship is granted by Cambridge University, out of which oil industry propagandist Cambridge Energy Research Associates operates. Rhodes founded De Beers and Standard Chartered Bank.

The Roundtable takes its name from the legendary knight King Arthur, whose tale of the Holy Grail is synonymous with the Illuminati notion that the Eight Families possess Sangreal or holy blood- a justification for their lording over the people and resources of the planet.

According to former British Intelligence officer John Coleman, who wrote Committee of 300, “Round Tablers armed with immense wealth from gold, diamond and drug monopolies fanned out throughout the world to take control of fiscal and monetary policies and political leadership in all countries where they operated.”

Rhodes and Oppenheimer deployed to South Africa to launch the Anglo-American conglomerate. Kuhn and Loeb were off to re-colonize America with Morgan and Rockefeller. Rudyard Kipling was sent to India. Schiff and Warburg manhandled Russia. Rothschild, Lazard and Israel Moses Seif pushed into the Middle East. At Princeton, the Round Table founded the Institute for Advanced Study (IAS) as partner to its All Souls College at Oxford. IAS was funded by the Rockefeller’s General Education Board. IAS members Robert Oppenheimer, Neils Bohr and Albert Einstein created the atomic bomb.

In 1919 Rothschild’s Business Roundtable spawned the Royal Institute of International Affairs (RIIA) in London. The RIIA sponsored sister organizations around the globe, including the US Council on Foreign Relations. The RIIA is a registered charity of the Queen and, according to its annual reports, is funded largely by the Four Horsemen. Former British Foreign Secretary and Kissinger Associates co-founder Lord Carrington is president of both the RIIA and the Bilderbergers. The inner circle at RIIA is dominated by Knights of St. John Jerusalem, Knights of Malta, Knights Templar and 33rd Degree Scottish Rite Freemasons.

The Knights of St. John were founded in 1070 and answer directly to the British House of Windsor. Their leading bloodline is the Villiers dynasty, which the Hong Kong Matheson family- owners of the HSBC opium laundry- married into. The Lytton family also married into the Villiers gang.

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>>115071

> if you think Satan "likes" the Jews better than the rest you def need a perspective stretch

Don't think it has anything to do with true juis tbh, just those that name themselves such falsely. Could be wrong.

>which makes it about the three Abrahamic religions, oil, money, power

Still boggled as to how three religions from the lands of goatfuckers have so much influence, and so young...only 2000 or so years. (/not religous | religion has nothing to do with God)

Of course mainly rip offs from previous religions...going back to Mesopotamia and likely earlier.

>>115072

>Balfour

About controlling the oil for the war machine to conquer the planet?

https://farkash-gallery.com/our-shop/rare-newspapers/rare-newspapers-rare-newspapers/un-general-assembly-resolution-for-the-creation-of-isreal-jerusalem-post-1947/

>>115075

> been working much longer than 2k years, stretch...................................

dis is known...humans have been around a lot longer than normies believe

hundreds of thousands of years

>Satan has man tied up "of the world"

>God offers "being in it, not of it

^

Finding the evidence to make it consumable by the masses is of interest.

The "plan" likely includes all of this.

https://takemeback.to/year/1947

How And Why Israel Was Founded In 1947 Illuminati, Nazis & The Illegal State of Israel

https://archive.vn/jlavC

The Real Story of How Israel Was Created

https://archive.ph/FSUC2

1 December 1947: The partition of Palestine

https://archive.vn/yv7kW

1946

https://archive.ph/p6WLl

1946, as the first full year after the Second World War, saw another global conflict open up – the Cold War.

While the Allied Powers had been victorious over their Axis enemies, the world began to divide between East and West. It was in this context that Winston Churchill gave his famous “Iron Curtain” speech on the 5th of March at Westminster College in Fulton, Missouri.

It was this year that the first meeting of the United Nations was held. Shortly after this first meeting in London, the League of Nations transferred its mission to the UN and was disbanded.

In a project of the US Army Signal Corps, Project Diana, brought the United States actively into the Space Age. In this experiment, radar waves were bounced off of the Moon, proving that readily available technology allowed for communication in space between the Earth and the Moon.

1947

https://archive.ph/xLPQK

1947 was also the year that a major political shift occurred in the United States. On the heels of World War II and in the shadow of the developing Cold War, the US took a major step in creating the “national security state” –a major increase in the size and scope of the central government in Washington, DC.This was brought to bear with the National Security Act of 1947, which established what would eventually be called the Department of Defense, established the National Security Council, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA). The effects of this Act have been felt in the United States and abroad for decades.

1948

https://archive.ph/ST1FS

This began with the Marshall Plan of the United States. Authorizing billions of dollars in aid to over a dozen countries, the aim of this program was to help facilitate the recovery process for countries that were devastated by the war. At the same time, the world was now in a geopolitical bipolar environment. There were now only two great powers – the United States and the Soviet Union. Having witnessed the spread of communism, the United States did not wish to see Western Europe slip into the communist, Soviet orbit of influence. The idea was that if the United States gives a significant amount of economic aid to her Western allies, those countries would be less likely to collapse and spark a communist uprising. ooops

The end of World War II also brought with it another step toward the dissolution of European empires and colonialism in general. With that, there was a very significant development this year in the Middle East that, in part, occurred because of the lessening grip of European rule in the region. In May of 1948, Israel declared independence, and this sparked the 1948 Arab-Israeli War. During this conflict, the countries of Egypt, Transjordan, Syria, and Iraq sent military forces against Israel. When this occurred, formal British control over the region was truly finished.

1949

https://archive.ph/wip/RyDAP

As it was the title of the Truman administration, and a time of progress for US welfare initiatives, this time is sometimes known as the fair deal. These 365 days bore witness to the first network detective series, the first female US treasurer, the first women to graduate from Harvard, and the first Israeli election. Some notable inventions of these twelve months include the instant cake mix, radio carbon dating, the crash test dummy and the Zamboni. While the ratification of NATO promoted peace on one side of the world, all was not quiet on the Eastern front. China’s Red Army moved on to attack Nanjing. After declaring victory, Mao Zedong moved to proclaim his country a people’s republic. China was not the only nation to change its name either; it was in 1949 that Siam became Thailand.

Coincidental timing NATO, and PRC?

>>115080

Yeah Rome is a whole other dig...esp the similarities in it's fall and current climate.

Those who forget their history...

The Treaties of Rome (1957)

http://www.historiasiglo20.org/europe/traroma.htm

THE TREATY OF ROME

https://netaffair.org/documents/1957-rome-treaty.pdf

>>115082

>they are related

^ oh I know

>think of the concepts in the Bible

>"nothing new under the sun"

Indeed, wheel of time keeps on turning

> chaldeans

Looked into Chaldean a lot - promoted looking at that form of numerology (before it was changed to Western)

If my ancestry digs are accurate have traced back to the city of Ur in the region of Sumer, southern Mesopotamia. (Chaldean https://www.bible-history.com/geography/ur_of_chaldees.html)

https://www.worldhistory.org/ur/

>>115082

>"nothing new under the sun"

Sun has been the primary "god" worshiped since long before Christianity.

Son-sun/Sol-Soul is still worshiped primarily in Christ?

Nothing is new, the names have been change to protect the guilty.

<They sure bred fast after that flood

>>115085

>and the father of Abraham was from Ur as well, coinkidinks?

Perhaps anons were called upon for a reason (multiple)

The date for ancestor was around 6500 (iirc) years ago (if accurate)

>dasting, where from?

https://youtu.be/x9-UZCUnQD0

Data modeling, looking for other sauce, which is out there. The discoveries in coal mines and other evidence likely supports some estimates.

Shows 27mil ~2000BC

https://www.census.gov/data/tables/time-series/demo/international-programs/historical-est-worldpop.html

https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/world-population-by-year/

>>115087

>tyvm

o7

>gotz to nabbenin for a bit

>still hoppin IRL back soon enough

Got to head out too, cya soonish

13.5 mil! ~1600-1100BC

<pic related

https://prezi.com/ukcjv0kubxx7/the-shang-population/

https://www.timemaps.com/civilizations/shang-dynasty-china/

>>115088

The Demographics of Dynastic China

https://www.thoughtco.com/demographics-of-ancient-china-117655

As of 2016, the population of China was 1.38 billion people. That phenomenal number is matched by enormous early population figures.

Censuses were taken as a rule by ancient rulers beginning in the Zhou Dynasty, but what the rulers were counting is somewhat in doubt. Some censuses refer to the number of persons as "mouths" and the number of households as "doors." But, conflicting figures are given for the same dates and it's possible that the numbers refer not to the total population, but taxpayers, or people who were available for either military or corvee labor duties. By the Qing Dynasty, the government was using a "ting" or tax unit to count in the census, which is based on a head count of population and more on the ability of the population to support the elites.

Xia Dynasty 2070–1600 BCE

The Xia dynasty is the first known dynasty in China, but even its existence is doubted by some scholars in China and elsewhere. The first census was said by Han dynasty historians to have been taken by Yu the Great in about 2000 BCE, with a total of 13,553,923 people or possibly households. Further, the figures are likely Han Dynasty propaganda

Shang Dynasty 1600–1100 BCE

No surviving censuses.

Zhou Dynasty 1027–221 BCE

Censuses became normal instruments of public administration, and several rulers ordered them at regular intervals, but the statistics are somewhat in doubt

1000 BCE: 13,714,923 persons

680 BCE: 11,841,923 persons

Qin Dynasty 221–206 BCE

The Qin Dynasty was the first time China was unified under a centralized government. With the ending of wars, iron implements, farming techniques, and irrigation were developed. No surviving censuses.

Han Dynasty 206 BCE–220 CE

About the turn of the Common Era, population censuses in China became statistically useful for the entire united mainland. By 2 CE, censuses were taken and recorded on occasion.

Western Han 2 CE: persons per household: 4.9

Eastern Han 57–156 CE, persons per household: 4.9–5.8

2 CE: 59,594,978 persons, 12,233,062 households

156 CE: 56,486,856 persons, 10,677,960 households

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Sources

Duan C-Q, Gan X-C, Jeanny W, and Chien PK. 1998. Relocation of Civilization Centers in Ancient China: Environmental Factors. Ambio 27(7):572-575.

Durand JD. 1960. The Population Statistics of China, A.D. 2-1953. Population Studies 13(3):209-256

>>115089

>can be a stepping stone for many, has been for me.

Agreed. Have no issue with people having religion as their vehicle so long as they don't seek to force it on me.

No issues with talking to god (the source) without an authority figure in the way, myself.

Plus trust issues with humans (especially those claiming they are an "authority" /always have).

>>115093

>well, kind of obvious what that's about, isn't it?

^truth

The Xia Dynasty of Ancient China

https://www.thoughtco.com/xia-dynasty-117676

The Xia Dynasty is said to have been the first true Chinese dynasty, described in the ancient Bamboo Annals called the Ji Tomb Annals, dated to the late third century BCE; and in the Records of the Historian Sima Qian (called the Shi Ji and written about 145 BCE). There is a long-standing debate as to whether the Xia Dynasty was myth or reality; until the mid-20th century, no direct evidence was available to support stories of this long-vanished era.

Some scholars still believe that it was invented in order to validate the leadership of the Shang Dynasty, for which there is abundant archaeological and written evidence. The Shang Dynasty was founded in about 1760 BCE, and many of the attributes ascribed to the Xia are different from those ascribed to the Xia.

Legends of the Xia Dynasty

According to the historical records, the Xia dynasty is thought to have lasted between about 2070–1600 BCE, and it was said to have been founded by a man known as Yu the Great a descendant of the Yellow Emperor, and born about 2069. His capital was at Yang City. Yu is a semi-mythical figure who spent 13 years stopping a great flood and bringing irrigation to the Yellow River Valley. Yu was the ideal hero and ruler, said to have been assisted in his work by a yellow dragon and a black turtle. Many of the tales about him are cast in mythology, which doesn't necessarily rule out the possible reality of a sophisticated society predating the Shang.

The Xia dynasty is said to be the first to irrigate, produce cast bronze, and build a strong army. It used oracle bones and had a calendar. Xi Zhong is credited in legend with inventing a wheeled vehicle. He used a compass, square, and rule. King Yu was the first king to be succeeded by his son instead of a man chosen for his virtue. This made the Xia the first Chinese dynasty. The Xia under King Yu probably had about 13.5 million people.

According to the Records of the Grand Historian (the Shi Ji, started around the second century BCE (over a millennium after the end of the Xia Dynasty), there were 17 Xia Dynasty Kings. They included:

Yu the Great: 2205–2197 BCE

Emperor Qi: 2146–2117 BCE

Tai Kang: 2117–2088 BCE

Zhong Kang: 2088–2075 BCE

Xiang: 2075–2008 BCE

Shao Kang: 2007–1985 BCE

Zhu: 1985–1968 BCE

Huai: 1968–1924 BCE

Mang: 1924–1906 BCE

Xie: 1906–1890 BCE

Bu Jiang: 1890–1831 BCE

Jiong: 1831–1810 BCE

Jin: 1810–1789 BCE

Kong Jia: 1789–1758 BCE

Gao: 1758–1747 BCE

Fa: 1747–1728 BCE

Jie: 1728–1675 BCE

The fall of the Xia is blamed on its last king, Jie, who is said to have fallen in love with an evil, beautiful woman and become a tyrant. The people rose up in rebellion under the leadership of Zi Lü, the Tang Emperor and founder of the Shang Dynasty.

Possible Xia Dynasty Sites

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Sources

Dai, L. L., et al. "An Isotopic Perspective on Animal Husbandry at the Xinzhai Site During the Initial Stage of the Legendary Xia Dynasty (2070–1600 BC)." International Journal of Osteoarchaeology 26.5 (2016): 885–96. Print.

Han, Jian-Chiu. "Comment on 'Outburst Flood at 1920 BCE Supports Historicity of China’s Great Flood and the Xia Dynasty'." Science 355.6332 (2017): 1382–82. Print.

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Wu, Wenxiang, et al. "Comment on “Outburst Flood at 1920 Bce Supports Historicity of China’s Great Flood and the Xia Dynasty”." Science 355.6332 (2017): 1382-82. Print.

>>115123

>would pull my child outta there so fast it'd make yer head spin

<the quicker fixer upper

Doesn't discriminate between politicians, lawyers, teachers, doctors...

not u doc

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>>115130

The snake, the staff, and the healer

https://hekint.org/2021/08/13/the-snake-the-staff-and-the-healer/

Introduction

In some ancient cultures, especially around the Near East, the snake was involved in healing. Today this seems counterintuitive. There are as many as 130,000 deaths from snake bites worldwide each year and three times that number of amputations and severe disabilities. Ophidiophobia is one of the more common phobias, even though the fear of a snake is rational. Antipathy towards snakes is best summed up by the message on a large billboard in outback Australia: “If you have been bitten by a snake, first make peace with your God, then go to the hospital.”

Greek mythology

Asclepius was the god of medicine in Ancient Greece. He represented the healing aspect of the medical arts (along with Apollo) and was known as Paean, the Healer. His daughters included Hygeia, the goddess of cleanliness, and Panacea, the goddess of universal remedy. Asclepius used a snake-entwined staff as part of his medical toolbox, which is today a symbol of medicine and part of the flag of the World Health Organization.1

Israelite history

The association of snake, staff, and healing dates back at least to the Old Testament. In the Book of Exodus (4:2), in the episode of the burning bush, God miraculously transforms Moses’ staff into a snake and then back into a staff.

The Old Testament records a curious story of the serpent and a pole. The Ancient Israelites had been punished for slander with a deadly plague of snakes. God then told Moses to place an icon of a copper snake high on a pole so that whoever looked up would be healed and not die (Numbers 21:4–9).

Why the snake?

Ever since Eve’s transgression in the Garden of Eden, snakes in Judeo-Christian tradition have been associated with lies, evil, and temptation. But in other cultures, such as indigenous North America, snakes symbolize fertility, rebirth, renewal, and even immortality

The significance of the serpent has been interpreted in many ways:

The snake sheds its old skin and the new skin symbolizes rejuvenation.

The snake represents both life and death. For an apothecary physician in ancient Greece, medications— pharmakon—meant both “poison” and “medicine.” Today the snake’s venom is milked to make anti-venom and other medications. A Freudian interpretation would suggest a life-giving symbolism.

In the Old Testament the copper serpent held high on a pole was meant to lift the people’s eyes and heart to heaven, to God who alone controls life and death.

These interpretations bespeak belief, faith, and magical thinking, which can be effective as placebos even without double-blind randomized studies. Nevertheless, we have not accounted for why the snake, of all the world’s dangerous animals, should be used as a symbol for healing. A clue might be found in the Old Testament’s prescription of copper to make the snake icon.

The periodic table

Copper, silver, and gold are in Group 11 of the periodic table and are known as the coinage metals because of their former numismatic use. They were likely the first metals discovered, since all are readily accessible in elemental form. They are relatively inert, corrosion-resistant, malleable, and excellent conductors of electricity.

Since copper, silver, and gold are soft metals, they must be alloyed with other metals to afford greater usability and durability. Copper is used as wire to conduct electricity, as a building material, and in metal alloys such as bronze and brass.

Why use copper to make the snake-icon?

In the Old Testament, the Hebrew words for snake and copper share the same three-letter root— n-ch-sh —suggesting a common meaning. Many biblical translations use the word “brass” in describing the snake icon, although philological purists prefer a copper snake.

The linguistic connection between copper and snake is possibly because of copper’s innate physical and chemical characteristics:

Copper can be drawn out into thin, flexible, strong wire. Similarly, a snake is long and muscular.

Copper is an excellent transmitter of electrons and data. Many biblical commentators note that healing did not occur from looking at the copper snake (it had no power), but rather because it encouraged the people to look up and see that God provided the healing. The copper snake acted as a conduit and a messenger.

There is a third word in Hebrew built on the three-lettered root n-ch-sh.

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>>115130

In ancient Egyptian culture, serpents symbolized health, healing and protection / A twelfth-century limestone capital featuring interlaced serpents

https://www.givemehistory.com/symbols-of-healing

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>>115130

Symbol of transformation, rebirth, healing, immortality, passion, fertility, rain, storms guardians, evil, metamorphosis, charm.

https://www.ancient-symbols.com/symbols-directory/serpent

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>>115130

Snake

The ancient Chinese referred to the snake or serpent as Little Dragon Chinese symbol and its moulted skin as Dragon skin. Depending on the situation, the snake has a variety of meanings in Chinese culture. The snake is a sign of sinisterness, indifference, and evil in its negative interpretation. It is also exceptionally cunning and manipulative. Beautiful ladies who are cold or merciless are known as “beautiful snakes” in China. On the other hand, snakes have a positive connotation as symbols of luck, authority, and the pursuit of love and pleasure

https://www.yoair.com/blog/anthropology-ancient-chinese-symbols-and-their-meanings/

snek

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<Fix'd

>>115143

>u prolly right about dat

>notice: no images of actual event

Only an idiot or FED (redundant)would wear an organization name on jacket to an "ambush".