Moar proof NSA_TRAF_CAM pics were hand-held
and well away from the trafcam from where anons once thought they were taken.
(This is a re-post of a study by a UK anon using lamp and signal poles to line up where position(s) of the Embankment pics were taken.)
The EMB-CH pics have varying vantage points. So there is a range of camera 'movement' within the set.
First draft of a pair of infographics for figuring the location of the camera for the EMB and CH PICs. The following is a walk through, which over-explains because of the weaknesses in the graphics so far. Will adjust with feedback.
SV MAY 2012 provides best open source view of lamp posts, sign posts, and other landmarks without traffic in the way. With these images can come fairly close to a Q match on the ground. Not so much on the bridge. That's ok because can line up the landmarks very close to how they line up in the Q pics. And can move about up and down the streets to doublecheck details. As I write this am thinking of a simple vid to illustrate. For now this pair of graphics shows the approximate location beneath the Q vantage point on the bridge. And, as a further reference, the second graphic shows the reverse view, looking back at that position.
The key marker on the ground is the differently colour pedestrian crosswalk across Northumberland on the hotel side of Victoria Embankment. Perhaps ironically, on the ground at that corner are the words Look Right with an arrow pointing in the direction that one would need to move the SV vantage point so as to more closely match the Q vantage points. Kek.
Another marker is the stop line on that side of Northumberland at the junction. It can be 'extended' toward the ground entrance to the bridge's elevator and thus extrapolated upward to the footbridge level. In this way it becomes evident that the traffic camera is too far away to be the Q vanatage point, or range as per the way this was figured and illustrated.
The set of pics of the junction and of CH show movement in the camera position. Some slight and some quite a lot. Obviously, LISAMI6 and CH3 show the greatest difference in positioning of the camera or cameras. Later will illustrate the CH pics and how the camera position for those actually extended the range within which that camera movement took place. For now, the red shaded areas show the estimated range for the set of pics.
Here is a guide to the pair of infographics on the bridge vantage point.
A. The roadside monument lines up with The Eye, almost. The camera position is off by a few steps. Given the close matches with other landmarks, this is a fair Q match.
The red arrows indicate the direction in which the vantage would need to change to even more closely match the London Pics. How much change remains an open question, natch, hence the range shown. The takeaway is that this range's boundary is several steps away from the post on which the traffic camera is perched.
B. Lamp posts line up almost 'on top of each other' with the foremost obscuring that behind, farther up the kerbside.
C. The gap between the post and the concrete edging or base under the fence at Whitehall Gardens is the marker. The positioning is very close to a match.
D. The white sign on the fence is rectangular, long side on the horizontal. The lampost intersects at about the middle of the length of that sign, in the Q pics, but is off a step or two in the best matching SV image. Again, the red arrow points in the direction for the needed correction in vantage.
The RED bracket shows the range of camera movement; and the white bendy arrow shows where the camera position would have been, just off frame in this SV image; the position would have been overhead on the footbridge. A vid would illustrate this notion more clearly than text description. The stop line on the road is highlighted in yellow.
These markers can be compared with the second infographic. Throwing in a third image that shows the camera position on the ground level. Later will do same for the CH pics. (End)