Anonymous ID: 0e82a0 July 28, 2019, 11:33 p.m. No.31715   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1718 >>1721 >>1727 >>1734 >>1739 >>1742 >>1743 >>1750 >>1911 >>1923

Some excerps from Resigned Willow Creek Community Church Resigned Senior Pastor Bill Hybels book where he addresses Pornography.

https://twitter.com/tripleoxymoron/status/1091946085180833793?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1091946085180833793&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwatchkeep.blogspot.com%2F2019%2F02%2Fbill-hybels-admits-to-purchasing-and.html

 

Where does one buy popular magazines and rent videos with CP in it. That shit is illegal yet this man says in his own book after admitting he was a deviant and wife almost divorced him that he was easily able to obtain this stuff. "For Research" because Dr James Dobson told him to educate himself.....

Incidentally, Bill resigned as the Mega=Churches Senior Pastor, Heather J Larson resigned as the Lead Pastor Steve Carter resigned as the Senior teaching Pastor and the whole fekken Board of Elders resigned as well. Almost a year ago, August 8th. He was in my opinion, the very first Mega-Church casualty in the Q movement. I am wondering how deep this goes, money laundering, trafficking, et al? They are openly friends with WJC, Killary, Hussein, Michael, Oprah, Bono, the Pope to mention a few and of course have missions in Africa and Churches in the WCA Willow Creek Association, all around the world.

 

Bill's wife Lynne,

https://twitter.com/lynnehybels?lang=en

mysteriously got an eye problem announced on Feb 21 and announced she won't be twatting much any moar. Then in March 19 she Twatted about a Year Long Radical Sabatical with a [now] dead link to her own website. Her last twat was June 30 this year where she twatted, E and a gif with that witch Meryll Streep. VERY Strange that she go silent despite her husbands sexual accusations. She has over 5000 tweets and is a Social Justice Warrior with ties to George Soros and just goes SILENT.

Their Daughter , Shauna Niequist

https://twitter.com/sniequist

is a very out spoken family oriented "Book writer"/Reviewer and twatterer and over this past weekend she posted on FB the most beautiful story about family and her children's 4 grandparents and the wonderful weekend they spent together. Just no pictures, odd. All the pictures of her Father have been scrubbed. I wonder if he went away...? She also looks like she aged alot in her last pic on twatter with her Mom. Mom actually looks better than her, IJS. Her Husband, Aaron Niequist is also on staff at WCC. He is also a social Justice/ New age Religion teacher...

 

I sit here waiting for moar news and dig where I can but there is a lot moar out there. I wish someone else would start digging in WCC.

Anonymous ID: 0e82a0 July 28, 2019, 11:42 p.m. No.31718   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1725 >>1727 >>1732 >>1874 >>1923

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Should a pastor ever own a private jet or a luxury yacht?

 

Remember the controversy Tony Campolo caused back in the day when he announced that you can’t own a BMW and be a Christian? Well, the recent revelations about Bill Hybels’ treatment of female colleagues raise the question about whether a pastor should ever own a private jet or a luxury yacht.

 

 

Many years ago I recall a Baptist minister telling me how, after moving into the manse or parsonage of his new church, he noticed there were metallic handrails sticking up out of the middle of the back lawn. When he asked the church elders what the handrails were for, he was informed that the church had purchased the property years earlier at an extremely good price but it had a swimming pool in the backyard. The elders felt that it was too ostentatious for a pastor to have a swimming pool, but the house was so cheap they couldn’t pass it up.

 

Their solution: purchase the property, but fill in the pool and plant lawn.

 

Those handrails remained poking through the grass as a tangible reminder of two things – the church’s thriftiness and its modesty.

 

The story about the underground pool always got a laugh and a roll of the eyes every time he told it. Those were the days when pastors were expected to display unstinting prudence and discretion. Even though the Baptists demurred on the Catholic vow of celibacy they shared their belief in a vow of poverty (or at least the appearance of such).

 

Similarly, I know one minister who was astonished and delighted to discover he had won a luxury vacation after renewing his subscription to a news magazine. His elders debated long and hard whether he could even take the holiday (was it the rewards of gambling?) and finally agreed he could as long as he kept the destination secret from the congregation.

 

It’s not like that anymore, is it?

 

We’ve all seen that clip of Kenneth Copeland and Jesse Duplantis defending their need for a private jet in order to serve God. But even those of us forced to schlep it on commercial airlines still consider the days of austerity in the ministry behind us. Most ministers wouldn’t be hiding their holiday destinations from their congregation anymore. Most churches wouldn’t be insisting on sub-standard housing for their pastors. It is generally assumed that ministers of religion are entitled to a decent salary and nice things.

 

And yet, has something been lost in this move away from austerity and frugality in the ministry?

 

I’m not proposing that we start filling in our swimming pools (not that I have one), but I do think it’s worth asking whether there’s a happy medium between that pastor who had to hide his vacation destination and Creflo Dollar asking for a $65 million jet.

 

I raise this because of the recent revelations about Bill Hybels, the former pastor of the megachurch Willow Creek, by former Zondervan president, Moe Girkins.

 

While insisting that Hybels made no overt sexual advances towards her, Girkins revealed some interesting aspects of the pastor’s work life.

 

In 2008, Moe Girkins secured a book contract with Bill Hybels. He then insisted that he work personally with Ms Girkins on the project, which they did at various times in his church’s private jet, at his beach home, on his yacht, and at restaurants near Hybels’ summer home.

 

On one occasion, he docked his boat at a slip near her home and asked her to pick up a bottle of wine and some dinner while they worked on the book.

 

Girkins also reveals the sexually inappropriate ways he spoke with her during those meetings, but my point here is to raise questions about the ostentatious lifestyle of a megachurch pastor who owns his own jet and yacht.

 

Are some pastors just too wealthy?

 

https://mikefrost.net/should-a-pastor-ever-own-a-private-jet-or-a-luxury-yacht/

Anonymous ID: 0e82a0 July 29, 2019, 12:07 a.m. No.31734   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1923

>>31715

"In the year 2000, in a move that now screams of incredible irony, Hybels invited then president Bill Clinton to join the global leadership summit, during the Monica Lewinski investigation. The Bills sat across from one another, the pastor offering solace (and… what? acceptance?) to the president. And yet behind the scenes the two were far more alike than we had imagined. Both were using their positions of power to mask corrupt character and decrepit behavior."

https://jmichaelrios.wordpress.com/2018/08/10/i-used-to-know-what-was-wrong-with-willow-creek/

Anonymous ID: 0e82a0 July 29, 2019, 12:18 a.m. No.31739   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1923

>>31715

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Follow God, not Bill Hybels

August 12, 2017 by Dave Wells

 

In Bill Hybels opening talk at this year’s Global Leadership Summit (GLS), he listed 10 Rules of Respect, adding that they are great words for leaders to live by. Really?

 

The first thing that jumped off the page is that Hybels makes no mention of God or Bible Scripture. Does Bill Hybels actually believe that he can say it better than God? I’m absolutely sure that he cannot.

 

PROOF

 

 

Here are Hybels ’10 rules’ followed by Bible Scripture. You decide who said it better.

1) Hybels: “Set the example of how to differ with others without demonizing them.”

GOD: “Let no corrupting talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for building up, as fits the occasion, that it may give grace to those who hear.” (Ephesians 4:29)

2) Hybels: “Model how to have spirited conversations without drawing blood”

GOD: “Let your speech be alway with grace, seasoned with salt, that ye may know how ye ought to answer every man.” (Colossians 4:6)

3) Hybels: “Never interrupt others who are talking and do not dominate the conversation.”

GOD: “Hear counsel, and receive instruction, that thou mayest be wise in thy latter end.” (Proverbs 19:20

4) Hybels: “Limit your volume level and refuse to use incendiary or belittling words that are guaranteed to derail a discussion.”

GOD: “He that keepeth his mouth keepeth his life: but he that openeth wide his lips shall have destruction.” (Proverbs 13:3)

5) Hybels: “Set the example of being courteous in word and deed

GOD: “And whatsoever ye do, in word or in deed, [do] all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through him.” (Colossians 3:17)

6) Hybels:”Never stereotype.”

GOD: “Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.” (John 7:24)

7) Hybels: “Apologize immediately when wrong instead of denying or doubling down.”

GOD: “If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.” (1 John 1:9)

8) Hybels: “Form opinions carefully and stay open minded if better information comes along.”

GOD: “He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him.” (Proverbs 18:13)

9) Hybels: “Show up when you say you’re going to show up and do what you say you’ll do.”

GOD: “If a man vow a vow unto the Lord, or swear an oath to bind his soul with a bond; he shall not break his word, he shall do according to all that proceedeth out of his mouth.” (Numbers 30:2)

10) Hybels: “Set rules of respect for everyone in the organization and enforce them relentlessly.”

GOD: “Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.” (Matthew 7:12)

Anonymous ID: 0e82a0 July 29, 2019, 12:18 a.m. No.31740   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1923

To make matters worse, every year Hybels adds a bevy of popular speakers who are typically outside the realm of the church. You won’t hear God or Bible Scripture from them either.

 

Here’s this years list:

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1) Sheryl Sandberg, COO at Facebook, woman’s rights activist, believes abortion is ‘comprehensive family planning.’

2) Laszlo Bock, Sr. VP Google,“All it takes is a belief that people are fundamentally good.”

3) Fredrik Härén, business creativity expert, “I am rooted in the world!”

4) Bryan Stevenson, black activist, lawyer, BLM supporter “If you tell a lie, you’re not just a liar. If you take something that doesn’t belong to you, you’re not just a thief. And even if you kill someone, you’re not just a killer.”

5) Marcus Anthony Lemonis, CEO Camping World, “We are all entitled to our own opinion. Here is mine. I am my own man, with my own belief system.”

6) Juliet Funt, daughter of Allen Funt (Candid Camera), “Our teachings have impacted some of the top brands in the world including Nike, P&G, Wells Fargo, Hershey’s and Hyatt. We’ve enabled them to feel fueled, focused, and ready to create the spectacular.”

7) Marcus Buckingham, author, “Talent is the multiplier. The more energy and attention you invest in it, the greater the yield. The time you spend with your best is, quite simply, your most productive time…Spend the most time with your best people.”

8) Angela Duckworth, professor of psychology, author of “Grit: The Power of Passion and Perseverance.” Says grit is the key to success in work and life.

 

In Conclusion

 

Simply put, the Church does not need the likes of Bill Hybels or the Global Leadership Summit, but you know what?

 

GOD SAID IT BEST

 

“[T]he whole world lies under the sway of the wicked one.” (1 John 5:19)

“[D]o not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God…. Abhor what is evil. Cling to what is good.” (Romans 12:2, 9)

“Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world — the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life — is not of the Father but is of the world. And the world is passing away, and the lust of it; but he who does the will of God abides forever.” (1 John 2:15-17)

“Jesus answered, ‘My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so that I should not be delivered to the Jews; but now My kingdom is not from here.” (John 18:36)

“Friendship with the world is enmity to God.” (James 4:4)

https://compassiondave.wordpress.com/2017/08/12/follow-god-not-bill-hybels-and-his-global-leadership-summit/

Anonymous ID: 0e82a0 July 29, 2019, 12:56 a.m. No.31750   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1923 >>1952

>>31715

Aaron Niequist, Shauna's Husband.

Save us Robert Mueller, Kek

 

Bill's wife Lynne and Grandson @ a movie about witchcraft aaaand dressed like a witch. Nothing here, it's just a movie,Right?

"Quite the Adventure"