>>42646

Oh, so maybe the bus stop S was changed? Sorry, yes it was back in 2018.

I guess we should stick to referring to the location as: 4 Victoria Street, London. Thanks, Anon. Guessing the Q pic was taken during POTUS' 2-day working trip on 13, 14 July, 2018 and posted 28 JULY, 2018. We think this pic is not associated with any of the other London pics timewise.

Oh, an interesting piece of info was just shared on UK thread re the PICCADILLY PICS. An anon noted that an ongoing train transit strike caused London to bring out some old vintage buses at the beginning of February 2014 and thru April 2014, like the vintage red bus seen in Q's London Piccadilly pic. Anons noticed that there are none of the usual advertisements seen on the regular buses. This seems to fall into place with our current timeframe estimate, perhaps even helping us to narrow it from a beginning bookend of October 2013(the LG G2 phone ad) to now having a bookend starting at FEBRUARY 2014 to when a ticket kiosk appears near one of the subway entrances in May 2014 on StreetView. Anyone else thinking FLYNN?

CAMBRIDGE DINNER? Will come back with sauce on London Train Strike/Use of old buses to assist.

SAUCE ON 2014 LONDON TRAIN STRIKE WHICH CAUSED THEM TO BRING OUT OLD BUSES TO HELP-

SUPPORTS THEORY ABOUT WHY OLD RED BUS IS SEEN IN Q PICCADILLY PIC WITHOUT THE USUAL ADVERTISEMENTS ON THE SIDE:

(Anon's original post follows.)

Something I just randomly stumbled across, the old style bus in the Q pic from Coventry St.

Why is that there? If it is a private hire/party/tour/tea/weddings why are there no ads on it? During the tube strike of 2014 old buses were bought back into use. Starting Feb 2014.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-26061749

https://www.alamy.com/1940s1950s-vintage-model-type-rt-bus-in-use-during-tube-strike-in-image68910019.html

https://www.focustransport.org/2014/02/classic-buses-cover-for-tube-strike-day_7.html

https://twitter.com/tfl/status/461098956739854337

>>42640

>I can check the other shots in Gulag Earth pro to see if there is anything interesting . It goes back to 1945 which is aerial photo.

Can't do ground level though so likely not hugely useful unless you need a specific date not easily found elsewhere.

Hey Anon, I just had a thought. Could you bring up some views of Hyde Park, London in DECEMBER 2013. Would be nice to see the layout versus streets surrounding Hyde Park. Maybe just a best image? Would be most appreciated for use by the UK thread.

Thanks in advance, if you can. Cheers, Anon.

>>42658

Thanks, anon. Can see the area used for Winter Wonderland. Was looking at the different entrances to the park. Thanks for your help. Current discussion on London pics is: We agree WW was 2013; Red bus/Piccadilly pics COULD be around FEBRUARY 6(based on Red bus oic. Very unusual for a bus to be without advertisements. Could be explained by the tube strike in FEBRUARY 2014. The Flynn Cambridge dinner was, I think FEB 6. Kinda looks like Flynn at Piccadilly.

The LisaMI6/NSA Traffic/CH pics do fit into a Winter 2013/2014 time frame but we can only be sure of construction/shrouds on a Westminster that looks like around OCTOBER 2013. But anons have seen historic evidence of advertisement banners for Christmas parties on the railings of the TATTERSHALL CASTLE that start in October. But the LisaMI6 pic shows no such banners on railings. So we are led to think it might have been taken after the holidays. So maybe JAN or FEB now. There is a special event caught by the pic though which could narrow the time in those two months to maybe a 48-hr time frame in either JAN or FEB. It is a Waning Gibbous moon. Ask an astronomer where in the night sky you can expect to find a Waning Gibbous Moon at midnight in the Northern Hemisphere, and they will tell you the Southeast at midnight. It is based on the angle of the sun to the moon that allows one to predict where a certain phase of the moon can be found at a certain time. Can sauce tgat later when the time comes. But for now, am looking at JAN 19/20 or FEB 17/18 as possible matches for our Moon seen in the ROT1 pic(the one with London Eye and the Moon). March was eliminated due to a fatal motorcycle accident on 3/6 that caused them to change the sign in front of the Corinthia Hotel. I kinda favor February 2014 for the Embankment pics because of them trying to frame Flynn at Cambridge even back then. Anons will post in General soon but only the parts we can prove. Maybe will mention some theories. Cheers, Anons.

>>42659

Wanted to bring anons up to speed on the actual (and fascinating) science that determines where and when the different phases can actually be expected in the night sky.

This goes to my whole theory on why we are seeing a WANING GIBBOUS Moon in the Q NSA_Traffic_Cam_LONDON_2847 pic. In Q's pic, it appears the 2 restaurant ships are closed for business. The RS HISPANIOLA closes each night at 11pm.

The PS TATTERSHALL CASTLE's closing hours were M-TH 11pm; F,S 3am, Sun 11:30pm. The best estimate for where the WANING GIBBOUS Moon pictured in the Q pic for FEBRUARY 2014 is on the 17th or 18th. Both of these dates fall on a Monday and Tuesday. So, in Q's pic, the restaurants are closed but it's not so late for cars to still be on the road. In modeling the different dates, In modeling different dates, for comparison, I chose close to midnight.

But most important is that, for that particular Moon phase, you will see it in that part of the night sky around that time.

Attaching some charts which show where the Moon is in the sky for different phases of the Moon. In Q's pic, sometime after 11pm, we see the Moon at a SOUTHEAST bearing of approximately 135 degrees.

Am posting some other pictures from open source of the Moon behind LONDON EYE just to show anons how big the Moon appears compared to London Eye and to prove that we are actually seeing the Moon in Q's 2847 pic.

>>42659

Anons, here is a REALLY TRIPPY COINCIDENCE about Q's LONDON 2847 pic, which faces due South by the way. I may have posted this already. If so, apologies. But for the dates I was suspecting for a close match for a Waning Gibbous Moon after 11:30pm for London, DIRECTLY TO THE SOUTH, in the constellation of Hydra, is a Deep Space Nebula called "NGC 2847". It is invisible to the naked eye and you would need a telescope to see it. I can't prove anything but do you ever wonder why Q named that one specific NSA traffic cam pic with 2847?

Posting a night sky model for FEB 17, 2014 which shows NGC 2847 due South under the constellation of Hydra.

>>42659

The pictures above are part of the reason why we were able to bookend the LisaMI6 pic to between late October 2013 to March 6, 2014. There is a white construction shroud on a small tower at Westminster Palace (appears to the left of Big Ben in the Lisa pic) which appears in that form at the end of October when we may expect Christmas party banners to have already appeared on the railings of the TATTS.

Discussion of the practice of using banners hung from the railings of the TATTERSHALL CASTLE which advertise for Christmas Party bookings for the restaurant tends to lead to the apparent lack of said banners in the Lisa pic. This is circumstantial evidence that the Q pic was therefore taken after the Christmas holidays that Winter, either January or February. Also, easily found are numerous website versions on Wayback Machine also advertising Christmas party bookings. The Alamy stock photo was TinEyed to mid-October 2014. Another example of the practice of employing banners to advertise Christmas Party bookings was also found, I think an earlier year(from memory). All if the above seems to lead to JANUARY or FEBRUARY 2014. We eliminated MARCH due to the fatal traffic accident involving a motorcyclist striking the very sturdy traffic sign in front of the Corinthia Hotel on March 6, 2014. The sign was later replaced with a safer collapsible sign. Until it was replaced, the sign was covered with a memorial which continued even after the sign was replaced. From January and February there are 2 days in each of those months when, by eyeballing the Moon's shape during the Waning Gibbous phase , you can choose from. Anons can choose for themselves which is the best approximation of the time of the Waning Gibbous Moon is. My choice for February is because of the ALTITUDES of the Moon were found to be lower in the sky, to match the Q photo(ROT1)in February than the altitudes in January. This is also a scientific fact that he Moon is highest at the Winter Solstice(DEC 21) and gets progressively lower until the Summer Solstice. The rule is: When the Sun is highest in the sky(Summer), the Moon is at its lowest. When the Sun is lowest in the sky (Winter), the Moon is at its highest.

Also included some photos of other advert banners for night club nights and comedy nights, etc.(the kind seen in the LisaMI6 pic).

UK Anon's vid shows a green ticket kiosk appearing in a SUMMER 2014 vid capture, and in another vid there is no ticket kiosk in SUMMER 2013 (as in the Q F Surv pics at Piccadilly Circus). A sample of dig being done on the Q London pics. A preview for QRB.

Another preview for QRB. Another very short vid capture to show a great deal of painstaking research being done to narrow the "book ends" on the Traffic Cam pics, e al. This shows a white construction shroud on the same small turret at Westminster Palace as seen, we think, in the Q traffic cam pics. This from a tourist vid. One, among many sources investigated. All point to Winter 2013/2014.