Washington State passed an Act prohibiting the open carry of certain weapons at public permitted demonstrations and the state capitol.

Sen. Kuderer, 48th District, claimed a misunderstanding that the State Patrol had asked for an Emergency Clause when it had not, restricting the citizens opportunity to gather signatures for a referendum. Sen. Mike Padden (R) argued regardless of the mistake the People were given false information and acted upon it, because of this he did no concur moving the Act forward.

History

Summary of Engrossed First Substitute Bill:

It is unlawful for any person to knowingly open carry a firearm or any weapon:

• while at any demonstration being held at a public place — this prohibition applies whether the person carries the weapon on their person or in a vehicle;

• within 250 feet of a demonstration at a public place after a duly authorized state or local law enforcement officer advises the person of the demonstration and directs the person to leave until they no longer possess or control a weapon—this prohibition does not apply to any person possessing or controlling any firearm or other weapon on private property owned or leased by that person; and

• on the west state capitol grounds, in any building on the state capitol grounds, in any state legislative office, or at any location of a public legislative hearing or meeting during the hearing or meeting.

Federal, state, and local law enforcement officers and personnel are exempt from the prohibition when carrying a firearm in conformance with their employing agency's policy.

"Permitted demonstration" means a gathering of 15 or more people at a single event in a public place for which a permit has been issued by a government agency or has been designated as permitted by certain local government officials.

"Public place" means any site accessible to the general public for business, entertainment, or other lawful purpose. It includes, but is not limited to, the front, immediate area, or parking lot of any store, shop, restaurant, tavern, shopping center, or other place of business; any public building, its grounds, or surrounding area; or any public parking lot, street, right-of-way, sidewalk, public park, or other public grounds.

A person violating these prohibitions is guilty of a gross misdemeanor.

PRO: The purpose of openly carrying a weapon at a protest is to intimidate people who are exercising their First amendment rights. It only serves to increase the risk of violence or death. We have seen armed groups engaged with peaceful protesters sometimes with deadly consequences. The most alarming trend is the increase of armed vigilante activity and intimidation with firearms. This bill is a common sense approach to ensure that weapons are not used to intimidate peaceful protesters. This bill is modeled after an existing law in the pro-gun state of Alabama. The bill does not prevent someone with a concealed carry permit to carry concealed. There is not a conflict with the Second Amendment. You are just limited to how and where you can exercise the Second Amendment similar to existing restrictions for courts, jails, and such. This is a reasonable restriction on the Second Amendment.

CON: Many citizens choose to exercise the right to open carry firearms every day without incident. Others find it necessary to openly carry in order to deter criminal behavior in their neighborhoods and businesses especially when there is an absence of law enforcement resources. The definition of demonstration is unconstitutionally vague where anyone at anytime for any reason expressing views or grievances that have the effect of attracting a crowd somehow constitutes a demonstration. There is no definition of a crowd. It is unconstitutional to remove one person's Second Amendment constitutional rights solely on the basis of another person, three football fields away, exercising their First Amendment rights. The enforcement of this new law is ripe for abuse and certain communities could be targeted.

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Changes to Bill

EFFECT OF HOUSE AMENDMENT(S):Removes language "as described in this chapter" when referring to a firearm or other weapon.

•Defines a "gathering" as a demonstration, march, rally, vigil, sit-in, protest, picketing, or similar public assembly, within the definition of a "permitted demonstration."

•Conforms technical differences of language in different sections providing exemptions for law enforcement and armed forces.•Adds a severability clause.

•Specifies that the open carry of a firearm or other weapon is prohibited within 250 feet "of the perimeter" of permitted demonstrations.

•Provides that nothing in the act applies to the lawful concealed carry of a firearm by a person who has a valid concealed pistol license.

•Adds an emergency clause and provides that the act takes effect immediately.

•Provides that the person must be knowingly at or within 250 feet of a permitted demonstration, or knowingly in the specified capitol campus grounds or buildings or other state legislative locations, in order for the criminal penalty to apply.

SENATE BILL REPORT ESSB 5038 As Amended by House, March 28, 2021

http://lawfilesext.leg.wa.gov/biennium/2021-22/Pdf/Bill%20Reports/Senate/5038-S.E%20SBR%20HA%2021.pdf?q=20210402185240

Senate Floor Debate

April 20, 2:30 pm

The Washington State Senate convenes for floor debate on pending legislation (concurrence/dispute calendar), including ESSB 5038 (Open carry of weapons) and E2SSB 5141 (Env. justice task force recs). (AFTERNOON SESSION)

ESSB 5038 Open Carry of Weapons Final Passage

WWW.LEG.WA.GOV

Washington State Senate

28 ya

21 na

reached constitutional majority - passed

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Transcript

SEN. PATTY KUDERER [D]

48th District, Bellevue

Washington State Senate

Thank you Mr President this bill will help ensure the safe exercise of our First Amendment rights by extending current law restricting where someone may carry a weapon to demonstrations in the Capitol campus and it applies to open carry only the health amendment made that crystal clear and they added clarity by providing a perimeter standard for the two hundred fifty eight and also made it certain that before anyone can be charged with a violation of this law that it will absolutely be knowing and intentional.

00:11:20

And and made a representation that the Washington State Patrol had requested that emergency law.

They also added an Emergency Clause I want to touch on briefly the emergency clause came about as a company started with a conversation I had Senator Hunt that was misunderstood by me and relayed to the other chamber.

00:11:20

And and made a representation that the Washington State Patrol had requested that emergency law.

00:10:25

Thank you Mr President this bill will help ensure the safe exercise of our First Amendment rights by extending current law restricting where someone may carry a weapon to demonstrations in the Capitol campus and it applies to open carry only. The House amendment made that crystal clear and they added clarity by providing a perimeter standard for the 250ft and also made it certain that before anyone can be charged with a violation of this law that it will absolutely be knowing and intentional.

00:11:01

They also added an Emergency Clause I want to touch on briefly. The Emergency Clause came about as, started with a conversation I had Senator Hunt that was misunderstood by me and relayed to the other chamber.

00:11:20

And and made a representation that the Washington State Patrol had requested that emergency law.

00:11:28

That was a misunderstanding I take responsibility and apologize to Senator Hunt and also to Captain [?] and also to Mike the Chair of the House Judiciary Committee. I will say that they all were very, very gracious in understanding how that could happen in a remote session like this it was unintentional but what is interesting about it Mr. President is once it was pointed out to me it became clear that this was a very much needed Amendment because we have what, have had a ninety days where there could have been armed protests and that would have led to the potential for some violence and possibly someone getting hurt so the Emergency Clause was added and sometimes mistakes turn out to be the right thing and in this case I believe that is true and we are recommending a concurrence. Thank you Senator.

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SEN. MIKE PADDEN (R)

4th District, Spokane Valley

Washington State Senate

00:12:30

Thank you Mr President and I'm going to recommend that we do not concur with this and primarily because the saga of the Emergency Clause because folks had the wrong information that the State Patrol wanted an Emergency Clause when they didn't. And while I certainly understand and accept the explanation of the gentle lady from the 48th District, still folks had the wrong information and there was no request by the State Patrol for the Emergency Clause and of course the Emergency Clause has a lot of consequences that prohibits the people, I don't know if they want to or not, but if they wanted to have a referendum they couldn't do it because of the Emergency Clause. So all this was never intended, never intended by the Senate, never even brought up when Law and Justice Committee dealt with

00:13:29

legislation and when the folks that the good Senator talked to, apparently all the ones from from her party, folks on the other side really felt that the fact that the information was false tainted that part of the bill. And so I think that's a big problem, inadvertent though it may be, and even though I am not questioning at all anybody's motives, it's just the results that false information was given, and the State Patrol did not not want an Emergency Clause. I have not seen anything or they have not changed their position that they want do want an Emergency Clause because we don't need an Emergency Clause. We want the people to have a chance if they so desire to get a signature, plus like I say there is no emergency.

00:14:30

So there is just no reason and strongly urge that we do not incur. Thank you very much Mr President.

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damn soapbox

WA Governor Inslee’s informant army – here’s the public records request snitch list

Governor Inslee's informant army - here's the snitch list

Glen Morgan Executive Director and Founder of We the Governed

Washington State Governor Inslee wants to create an army of informers who will turn in their neighbors to the state so he can punish them for being insubordinate to his virus proclamations.

This article has NOT been approved by Inslee’s Ministry of Covid Compliance.

*Update: Please note, I have to keep updating the download location due to heavy volume and it appears those sites get taken down.

There have been multiple concerns raised in Washington State recently by the “snitch on your neighbor” websites and other efforts made by local government to create on-line tools to report your neighbor and local business for violating Washington State Governor Inslee’s Corona Virus Lockdown proclamations. In some cases, like the Bellevue Police Department clearly stated last month, this was a way to reduce the workload of the 911 call center who were being inundated with panic calls from citizens who spent their days cooped up at home with the only entertainment (in between Netflix binging) available appears to be spying on their neighbor and reporting all potential “violations” to the police. For those who already had conflicts with their neighbors, this was a great way to escalate the ongoing fight. It is not a great way to build harmony, and it certainly doesn’t help the police stop the real criminals.

Washington State Governor Inslee decided to create a state wide “Inslee Ministry of Covid Compliance” where bored citizens could also report the businesses they felt were not obeying Inslee and those who were not properly subordinate to whatever whimsical proclamation Governor Inslee kicked out next. This produced a bonanza of complaints, and thanks to Washington State’s public records act (RCW 42.56), this is the first installment of the list of Inslee’s informant army. Download the 146 page PDF file yourself here. Or, you can download a more useful Excel file here. Or, you’ll have to send me a message and I’ll email it to you. Note, there appear to be over 7,000 entries. Most people who filed complaints also included their email and phone number, which is now part of this public record (a fact Inslee conveniently left out and probably did not communicate to the complainers).

Sign at May 9, 2020 protest on Capital Campus

I’ve expressed concern in years past for turning neighbor against neighbor by allowing anonymous complaints to be weaponized as the basis for tortuous harassment by code enforcement officers, central planning departments, and the various environmental groups who must justify their existence by hurting and harassing as many people as possible. Of course, it was always “for the environment,” “for the pocket gopher,” or “global warming” or some other excuse. I’ve detailed a variety of stories related to the ridiculous outcome of that process here, here, and here. I’ve always been concerned about how encouraging these complaints between neighbors and enemies causes a breakdown in community, reduces the ability of people to work out their differences (which only become chasms when the bumbling power of the state gets involved), and how it creates pointless divisions in communities and among neighbors escalating minor neighbor annoyances into Defcon 1 bitter battles.

However, this new state-wide informant line is particularly concerning because Governor Inslee’s proclamations have been sudden, random, and a substantial portion of the population will not accept his goal of destroying their business, livelihood, or future. Additionally, this is the Governor who early released 5,000 violent felons so they could continue to inflict additional bonus violence and harm on the law abiding people of the state – including murders – just because his Dept. of Corrections had a known software glitch which they didn’t fix for years. Ooops, Inslee’s bad – oh well, not like there are any consequences for him, just the rest of us suckers who live here. The Governor was eager to release another 1,000 felons to prey on the unarmed and vulnerable early last month including sex offenders and other criminals because they might catch the virus in prison. At the same time this Governor has also been doing everything in his power to restrain and deny the citizens of the state the right to defend themselves.

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So, while releasing violent felons on the law-abiding citizens of the state is state policy, and police resources have been stretched thin dealing with a substantial increase in crime in many parts of the state, the Governor also wants to use police powers to threaten businesses and citizens who don’t follow his proclamations – regardless of how irrational and illegal they might be. When the opportunity to join Inslee’s Informant Army was presented, thousands jumped at the chance to turn in their neighbors for being “insubordinate” to Governor Jay Inslee.

A few notes about the complaints:

● The spelling is so atrocious in many cases it makes it difficult to even understand the complaint (If you are doing that on purpose – good one, but I suspect literacy is just on the decline these days)

● Many complaints are filed by business competitors trying to harm each other

Some complaints appear to be from workers who believe they can make more on unemployment

● Often, it appears, that if someone didn’t like the business in the first place, this was a good way to pile on and throw something more at it.

● I liked the innovative complaints on all the private aircraft taking off from Renton airport (and elsewhere). Very detailed.

● It was a nice touch to see people file complaints on Inslee himself using this system (no reason to stop)

● Spying on your neighbors can be fun

Some favorite quotes from the snitch list:

Here are some of my favorite quotes from the Ministry of Covid Compliance snitch list (I’ve censored the full names and home addresses)

Line#7547 – Seattle – “Owner b* a** has no respect for the governors proclamation, and has told his employees he will spit in jay inslees face if he tries to close his business. In addition to refusing to close there is no social distance being practiced” – “Pete”

Line #7525 – Pasco – “This business is still operating and has the order to stop. Owner said he will not be told what to do when it comes to operating his business.” – “Heaven”

Line #7517 – Bainbridge Island – “Reported to city of Bainbridge code compliance. Illegal tree cutting and landscaping activity for 9 days. Claus *, home owner said he doesn’t care about non essential work order stoppage, it doesn’t apply to him or anyone who wants to come work for him. City

compliance officer has visited site and recommended I follow up on this form. Also cutting trees without permit is R* Y with same operation at **** wing point drive. He was also spoken to by compliance officer” – “Catheri”

Line #7474 – Seattle – “They are working on the house next door. The workers stated that the mandate is not being enforced so they are starting work back up on all their job sites. They say the small risk of a fine is worth it. What’s the point of a mandate that isn’t being enforced?” – Unknown

Line#5983 – Port Orchard – “Owner is having daily morning meetings in person with up to 70 people in order to distribute roofing jobs. Thinks the pandemic is a joke, saying he would bring out his AK-47 before they stop him from working.” – Unknown

Line #65 – Moses Lake – “Many people lined up and “waitresses” walking out to cars and getting orders about 2 feet from the driver! Coffee is NOT an essential business.” – “Molly”

Line #121 – Airway Heights – “(Sign) out that says Fuck coronavirus we are open 8-8” – “Unknown”

Line #135 – Olympia – “They have been seeing patience daily since the mandate. I have pictures of vehicles/licenses.” – “Brent”

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Line #164 – Seattle – “I am a King Co Sheriff’s deputy. Last week I warned this business about being open during the restrictions. Today I walked into the business and they had a full staff of 4 workers and were giving a body massage to a male client. The male was naked with a towel on (foot massage?)

I told the owner X* C* to close the business. King Co Case # C20013297” – “Robert”

Line #201 – Bellingham – “Business is operating as usual. I asked owner and he told me he wasn’t going to close. Belligerent about government can’t tell him what to do.” – “Unknown”

Line #208 – Spokane Valley – “They are still operating and only plan on closing if they get caught.” – Unknown

Line #212 – Bellingham – “Please tell the stand alone gun shops that they are not to sell guns during the shelter in place order. I understand that multipurpose shops like TENEX and Coastal Farm and Ranch are able to still sell as are pawn shops (financial institutions) , but am still seeing lots of background requests for stand alone gun shops.” – “Morgan”

Line #251 – Colfax – “Non essential business still working and bragging about it.” – Unknown

Line #349 – Aberdeen – “I just know they are open. They have an employee that goes out in the public everyday. They lock doors Sometimes but all you have to do to get in is make an appointment.” – “Cindy”

Line #566 – Tulalip – “Cabela’s in Tulaip just re-opened this morning (4/3/20). I was in the store today. I was told by Cabela’s staff they are an essential business, they only follow Federal rules. Also said this: “We are on tribal land and can do anything we want.” – “Thomas”

Line #666 – Graham – “Coffee stands are NON-ESSENTIAL Businesses. They do NOT provide a full meal, just muffins and cookies and ALL Coffee stands should be required to shut down.” – Sara

Line #827 – Arlington – “We hear guns Being fired everyday at this private gun club. Did not see this on the list of essential businesses.” – “Helen”

Line #831 – Arlington – “More GREAT news. Norpoint gun Range in Snohomish County has re-opened it’s doors! Please stop by and support them, and thank them for taking a stand against the illegal edicts from Governor Inslee that forced them to shut down in the first place.”i have screenshots if you need them. they want to test to see if enforcement has teeth, I think.” – “Christi”

Line #1043 – Port Orchard – “Large gatherings of people. Only golf course in western washington that remains open. Owner and Management laughs at Governor Inslee’s Order and is defiant. Total disregard for social distancing.” – “Unknown”

Line #2051 – Bellevue – https://www.wadesguns.com/ site says they are purposefully defying Governor’s shutdown orders. https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/some-washington-gun-dealers-keeping-stores-open-defying-inslees-order-amid-coronavirus-outbreak/” – “Lauren”

Line #2068 – Lynnwood – “This business is openly defying the ban and even bragging to the media about it. The owner has a history of openly and broadly defying local laws and ordinances and is a menace to the community. She is encouraging people to gather in groups and defy all the governor’s orders.

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/some-washington-gun-dealers-keeping-stores-open-defying-inslees-order-amid-coronavirus-outbreak/?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=owned_echobox_tw_m&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1585772151” – “Unknown”

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Line #2551 – Coupeville – “Owner Terri Montana REFUSES TO CLOSE GYM DOWN!!! When asked why She will not for the protection of the community, her exact words were “Governor Inslee can’t tell me what to do!!” And she further said that the laws do not apply in island county! Carage the nursing home in Coupeville which has an outbreak of coronavirus patients and staff is just a stones throw away and Coupeville fitness has members from Carage families and staff!!! PLEASE CLOSE THIS BUSINESS FOWN AND SEND HER TO JAIL FOR NIN COMPLIANCE!!! There were at least 15 members in there this morning just inches apart from each other!!!!!!!!” – “Diane”

Line #3380 – Vancouver – “I’ve reported this establishment previously, they are still gathering in fairly large groups. It is my understanding churches and religious groups are not exempt from Gov. Inslees non essential stay home orders. I have photos of the parking lot full, people in the parking lot and entering the building” – “Kate”

Line #4389 – Olympia (specifically about Jay Inslee) – “This jack-ass is destroying businesses while shielding his favorite cash generators. As in Boeing, Pot shops and his DNC and vice president campaign” – “Dan”

Read the complaints for yourself by downloading the list here.

https://www.wethegoverned.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/The-Snitch-List-Gov-Inslees-Covid-Compliance-informant-Army-.pdf

Or, an Excel file here. https://app.box.com/s/lo27ss9r61sro5c2jwhlpkn379en3sgu?fbclid=IwAR1HMuewg4AJRAjaiULaqSFURNTVoC7QBQAB8YahSNLp56QOrRek7QXIz5k

Again, if you want a more useful Excel file, it is quite large, I can email it to you if you send a message.

Now, I think I’m going to get on that complaint website and file some complaints against Inslee, the Department of Ecology, and all the genius politicians and bureaucrats who thought this was a good idea in the first place.

OUR CONSTITUTION BEGINS WITH THE PHRASE “WE THE PEOPLE.” IT WAS THE FOUNDER’S INTENT THAT GOVERNMENT BE CREATED BY THE PEOPLE, TO SERVE THE PEOPLE. IT WASN’T THEIR INTENTION FOR THE PEOPLE TO SERVE THE GOVERNMENT. IT WAS ALWAYS INTENDED THAT GOVERNMENT WHICH FAILED TO SERVE THE PEOPLE SHOULD BE “ALTERED OR ABOLISHED.” UNTIL WE RETURN TO THE FOUNDER’S INTENT, WE REMAIN WE THE GOVERNED…

https://www.wethegoverned.com/governor-inslees-informant-army-heres-the-snitch-list/