Interview by Jean-Pierre De Villiers with Nick Hudson, organizer of PANDA

PANDA = Pandemic Data & Analytics

They fight against lockdowns, mask mandates, mandatory vaccination.

https://youtu.be/hYtLT3pUEo4, 45 mins

5-4-2021

PANDA was established in South Africa, grew from there

was in response to growing covid hysteria, from early on

Thought economic consequences of lockdown - much worse than effects of virus

Everything that was being done in SA was being done in connection with WHO, Gates, GAVI

So they became internationalized

Want to replace bad science with good science

People haven't given themselves permission to question lockdowns

Every previous pandemic response policy was violated by late March

No cost-benefit analysis of lockdowns - not just economic but others

They tried to quantify those costs in a paper -

but later, realized there was a more basic issue: the wrongness of lockdowns.

Govt's have hired psychologists to purposely make people afraid.

Masks have no impact on transmission - only on the psychology of the public.

Constant reminder of "newly and deadly virus" (but it's not new or particularly deadly).

"Lockdowns have not resulted in the savings of lives. It's terrible."

Fear is more dangerous than smoking in terms of a person's health - a year of fear.

An artificially created co-morbidity.

Doesn't believe this is a conspiracy, but it's worse than that.

• We've cultivated a culture of "Safety-ism"

• There's been a going away from debate, freedom of express (cancel culture)

• Ideology of centralization - world control

• Malthusianism - belief that population growth must be stopped

What about forcing people to get vaccines?

NO. Also against vaccine passports.

Thinks we need to be kind to those who are afraid, patiently educate them.

But also ridicule those who make silly policies.

Laugh together.

We want people to just get moving again, don't want to arouse fear.

Calls this the fight agains the "mal-archy" (malarkey)

Don't be afraid of risk. Life is full of risk. Restore agency to your life.

"Life without risk is not worth living."

Another video with Nick Hudson (March 2021):

https://vimeo.com/532172876

26 mins

removed from YT after a half a million views

PANDA started out as a conversation among 4 friends - md, lawyer, investor, economist

Nick is the investor.

>>50995

listening to the March 2021 Vimeo talk by Nick Hudson

The ugly truth about the Covid-19 lockdowns

https://vimeo.com/532172876

This vid is even better than recent interview

Excellent, excellent slides - great REDPILL.

This guy is really good at tearing apart the illogical arguments used by Fauci and others. He's an actuary - and you have to be really good at statistical analysis for that.

Premise behind current covid policies:

You are presumed to be sick unless you can prove you are healthy.

Ridiculous.

Asymptomatic transmission.

Also ridiculous.

Lockdowns

Bruce Elwood goes to China and says then that everyone should follow their response to the virus. NO.

Previous policies w/pandemics

Isolation of the sick and hand washing are what work - not lockdowns.

Sweden vs UK (no lockdown vs lockdown):

NO DIFFERENCE in incidence of daily deaths.

S Dakota vs N Dakota

South Dakota did BETTER than N Dakota.

Dangers of lockdowns

suicides, educational disruption, lockdowns make things worse (well-known data)

Dangers of Masks

Before June 5, universal masking was discouraged by WHO; suddenly reversed their policy.

Very, very flaky science. Contradicts everything we know from studies of using masks to try to reduce flu transmission.

Masks v No Masks

States with and without mask mandates: NO DIFFERENCE

Big vaccines

BIG PHARMA pushing this narrative for profiteering.

'''Looming vaccine passport - and fear of future (long covid, reinfection, variants...)

FEAR pushed to an absurdity. We must push back against it.

The very underpinnings of our civilization are under threat here.

"We've been pushed up against a precipice."

Read the Great Barrington Declaration.

https://gbdeclaration.org/

>>50995

Nick Hudson:

Doesn't believe bad covid policies are due to a conspiracy, but to these factors:

• Cultivation of a culture of "Safety-ism"

• Departure from real debate, freedom of expression (cancel culture)

• Ideology of centralization - world control

• Malthusianism - belief that population growth must be stopped

Interesting argument

Why?

Because it nicely sidesteps the msm attack against "conspiracy theorists"

Hudson says "no conspiracy" but lists ideas and developments that promote bad covid policies

NOT NECESSARY to say it's organized, right?

Shift the narrative to looking at the value of these ideas and developments.

Very, very smart.

>>51000

Notes from 18-min interview w/Sidney Powell:

interviewer talks too much, kek - she's scared.

Re Rudy Giuliani:

SP: obvious that it's a "politically targeted hit job"

outrageous double standard: dems vs repubs

there's nothing to find but dems are determined to use DOJ to harass their political opponents

desire for revenge

interviewer: same thing with Joe DiGenova and Victoria Toensing; and an innocent couple accused of having Pelosi's laptop

SP:

"They've turned this into a Gestapo state."

if FBI barges into your home: "Exercise your right to remain silent - don't say a single word. Lawyer up."

Southern border:

What happens to these young children?

When alone, they say they don't know anyone here. We don't know where they're going. Breaks my heart.

SP:

"It's all human trafficking. The Biden admin is empowering human trafficing to grow enormously..they aiding, abetting and encouraging it."

"It's horrific - everything we're experiencing now is horrific....just the fact they're saying 'Biden is president' is a lie."

What can we do?

SP:

• Maricopa audit.

• Georgia fraud evidence.

• There's more evidence coming out about foreign involvement in fraud.

• Every dept, even DOJ, failed to act.

• Shaving votes: Antrim, GA, others

What can we realistically hope for?

SP: Courts with enough guts and integrity to apply the facts.

Two routes:

1 - in states that were blatantly fraudulent: this requires that the people demand investigations

states should recall their electors

2 - court action: the court [SC??] should set aside the election due to fraud - should re-instate President Trump

Recently: Trump said election is the BIG LIE

Cheney claimed the opposite

SP:

She's a fraud - and not alone.

[speaks of Obama fraud - problem is not new]

Trump did a brilliant job of turning things around but the cabal was determined to get him out of office - determination shown by extreme acts like the murder of Loeffler's aide in GA and the lead investigator after that. Both of those were 'message killings'.

How about Ashli Babbitt? Why can't we know what happened?

SP: "Because we're living in a communist totalitarian regime right now that is trying to consolidate its power."

Checks on computers using for voting should be checked the next day after the election. "Anyone who fights transparency in this election are liars and fraudsters - they ar part of the problem."

>>>/qresearch/13590686

Schiff: Trump Is ‘Pathologically’ Continuing to ‘Endanger Our Democracy’

House Intelligence Committee chairman Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA) said Wednesday on MSNBC’s “Andrea Mitchell Reports” that Facebook upheld its ban on former President Donald Trump because he was “pathologically” continuing to “endanger our democracy.”

Mitchell said, “I want to ask you about the decision by Facebook this morning. The oversight board acknowledging that Donald Trump created an environment it called a serious risk of violence on January 6 with his posts. They opposed an indefinite suspension of his accounts. The former president issued a statement in response saying that free speech was taken away from the president of the United States because of what he called the radical left lunatics are afraid of the truth. Is Facebook violating Donald Trump’s constitutional right to free speech?”

Schiff said, “No. The First Amendment protects Donald Trump and every American from the government regulating speech. It doesn’t say that private companies need to use their platforms to air patent falsehoods that endanger the country that incite insurrection. So no, I think Facebook is trying to have a consistent policy. At least its oversight board is trying to make sure that it is consistent in how it treats people.”

He added, “The President here is continuing to go out and push the big lie about the election, continuing, I think, to endanger our democracy by doing that. So he continues to make the case that he would violate the policies if they readmitted him. And I think frankly, pathologically, he is incapable of changing. So this is a temporary ban. It will likely be, if we are fortunate, a permanent ban because the president will not stop the lies about the last election or lies about the next one. He will incite people if that’s what’s necessary to suit his narrow personal interests. And that should violate any good corporate citizen’s policies.”

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2021/05/05/schiff-trump-is-pathologically-continuing-to-endanger-our-democracy/

>>51010

mirror, mirror adam schiff

you project your fondest wish

hoping you'll escape the light

knowing you're not in the right

dunno how to cleanly fight

evil is a loathsome dish.

>>51011

hello gb

howsa?

hope things ok, get enough sleep?

think this was posted but not sure as an mp4 - sweet, sweet timing, kek

Dan Scavino

“Travel and tourism is on fire in Portland...” @tedwheeler

https://twitter.com/DanScavino/status/1389779291173531648

>>51014

no, never enough sleep

nappening happening?

GOOD - go for it, friend

>>51017

all we talk bout round here are crises and naps

helluva time to be alive

kek

>>51031

same guy as this but a different interview

good he's getting the word out

>>50858 Dr Peter McCullough: Gov't is scrubbing unprecedented number of injection-related deaths

>>51046

Melinda Gates Commits $375 Million for Population Control

gosh, why bother when they've got the covid vaxxes?

only a partial solution?

(not the final)

>>51013

hey doc

u around??

>>50980

great - tagged muhself 'stead of doc

doc, doc?? u der?

>>51060

new ip

just checkin'

>>51057

everybody i know got a sad story

people sick or worse

that's a huge number already and getting higher

that doc says they usually pull a vaxx when it kills 50 people - guess they're going for 50,000 with this one

>>51065

i gotta sleep

but why doncha just note and bake?

got more than enough

>>51059

moar - or fewer?

people don't talk much about population control

it's 'population studies' or sumtin

claim that population needs to be higher some places and lower in others

just a pr gimmick - they know we know what population control really means

>>51071

fastest bun in the west

(west part of the east that is)

>>51074

i guess u not perfect yet

but takes time to do a bun like this

nice work

Sidney Powell made some big stmts today

not pullin any punches

>>51074

gettin muh wire crossed

dat for doc

>>51076

>>51074

take it easy, we puttin out good stuff

>>51084

can repost nb, but here

>>51084

>fortify

what a word -

shades of TIME magazine!!

fortify -

a word very *carefully' chosen for both its positive connotations (reminds us of vitamins and strength) and vagueness. If challenged in court (or the court of public opinion), they can claim it meant to solidify/fortify the PROCESS - but the word really applied to the RESULT. They were rubbing our faces in it.

But no one can prove it - the perfect double entendre.