Anonymous ID: a6e982 July 14, 2019, 1:29 p.m. No.6929   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>6985 >>6988 >>7002 >>7243

something is off about Epstein's arrest and purported incarceration.

My gut is telling me he is not being held where we are being told.

He was taken into custody by Port Authority WHILE ON THE PLANE.

He never touched American soil as a free man. His plane did.

He never went through customs.

I don't know what is wrong with this but something is off.

The press conference said "HE" came into our jurisdiction but "he" didn't , only his plane did.

Anonymous ID: a6e982 July 14, 2019, 1:55 p.m. No.7002   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>7157

>>6929 (me) Epstein is being held in a location that has a jail-within-a-jail.

I am not convinced that he is being held under normal status.

This jail is under Homeland security control. Port Authority arrested him and they are a Congress created body. This gives POTUS Presidential powers over P A .

POTUS signed an emergency declaration a while ago about Human Trafficking as well as later, an EO about asset seizure. ( 2 different Presidential actions )

I posted about this a couple nights ago when it got stuck in my craw. It's still stuck and deeper!

We are over looking something and it is probably right in front of my face like always! I can never see the elephant because there is a peanut in front of it sort of thing.

It has somethign to do with the power of Port Authority due to their Congressional appointment, POTUS powers, and the specific jail.

>>6985

>>6988

Anonymous ID: a6e982 July 14, 2019, 2:40 p.m. No.7098   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>7099 >>7123

Epstein left for Paris on June 14th where he owns property ( according to the indictment )

Epstein spends more than half the year abroad ( according to the indictment ) ( important as it relates to companies or entities who do not reside substantially in USA )

Epstein had his plane boarded and was arrested on his plane at a private airport under Port Authority control .

Port Authority was created by Congress and placed under Homeland security. ( Cabinet seat of Homeland Security grant POTUS article 2 powers )

Epstein was not legally on American soil until he walked off the plane.

Epstein would have required extradition from France for an arrest of his "person" unless he walked through customs and was in US territory

France didn't extradite him and he didn't enter US territory yet. His plane did.

C'mon anons help me out here! This is about enemy combatant status.

Esptein is an American Citizen captured but not on American soil.

Anonymous ID: a6e982 July 14, 2019, 3:05 p.m. No.7146   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>7123 The civil seizure portion of this indictment gave Port Authority the right to board the plane. This makes sense to me now.

They were the competent authority to open the door and arrest Epstein.

Epstein himself was not on American soil at the time of arrest.

This is enemy combatant status.

Anonymous ID: a6e982 July 14, 2019, 3:40 p.m. No.7210   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>7211 >>7216 >>7218

>>7202

yes that is true but I think there is more to it than that.

I'm not sure how to marry the facts of his arrest with the 2 presidential actions related to human trafficking but I know they apply. Thise are the article 2 powers POTUS used at the time.

I also know this is directly related to enemy combatant status and LG questioning of Kavavaugh

Anonymous ID: a6e982 July 14, 2019, 3:46 p.m. No.7223   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>7232

>>7216

he could be held at that location because it is a location that has multiple purposes. It is not a standard jail and multiple authorities hold their prisoners there. It does not follow 1 set of rules because it houses prisoners of many types. I think he is being held as an enemy combatant but I lack the legal skills to put it all together with logical bullet point sauce

~ lawfag jr here

Anonymous ID: a6e982 July 14, 2019, 3:51 p.m. No.7234   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>7246 >>7252

anons are getting off track from my point. Citizenship only matters for Epstein as it relates to the Supreme Court challenges. He is in fact an American Citizen and that part is irrelevant. ( sorta)

Military tribunals for American citizens who are captured on American soil is still somewhat unsettled law.

American citizens

(who are enemy combatants ) captured on foreign land is however settled law.

Anonymous ID: a6e982 July 14, 2019, 3:58 p.m. No.7254   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>7232

USA is. We got him and he is a US citizen. He ran an international child sex trafficking ring . He lives over half his time abroad so that subjects any and all properties to our jurisdiction.

We even have power over his personal stuff due to something called " Reverse Piercing of the Veil" It is a Florida case authorizing personal property seizure in certain circumstances where corporations are shielding assets fraudulently or shielding personal assets from fraudulent means

Anonymous ID: a6e982 July 14, 2019, 4:09 p.m. No.7277   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>7325

>>7252 POTUS EO changed that. His EO was enough. It set the stage for Military tribunals and we all knew it then. We just didn't have a tangible example. I think this is our tangible example .

I know what I am thinking in my head and I know what my research memory is telling me. I lack the ability to go back to everything I search up last year and pull it together in a format that makes for easy reading for others.

Digging searches are

  • enemy combated questions from LG to Kavanough

-POTUS 2 not just 1 , presidential actions about human trafficking

  • Stateless person laws

  • civilian tried in military tribunals

-Rumsfeld V. Hamdi case

  • in flight arrest ( anon up thread provided info )

  • Article 2 presidential powers for declaring an emergency

Probably more but I can't remember all of the subjects I researched. I knew this was coming but I never knew HOW. This fits all the squares and checks all of the boxes. I truly believe he is being held as an enemy combatant

Anonymous ID: a6e982 July 14, 2019, 4:16 p.m. No.7294   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>7286

this is important info for anons to file in the back of their minds. It will be important later. Epstein's arrest was at around 10:30 pm local time as I recall. Customs was open for business but h e was arrested BEFORE entering customs

Anonymous ID: a6e982 July 14, 2019, 4:35 p.m. No.7335   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>7425

>>7325

I'm sorry, I must have done a poor job explaining. The EO's don't pertain to enemy combatant status. They are part of the picture. They are what Article 2 powers POTUS enacted.

I was trying to list off all of the subjects I researched that formulated my thoughts. Each one plays a role. Some roles are bigger than others but they all play a part in a complex subject about when and where you can use military tribunals on American citizens.

I am not a legal expert by any stretch of the imagination, I am lawfag jr.

I do understand how to stack up laws, doctrines, and caselaw to write a successful brief.

The "stacking of " knowledge gained from these is where I feel comfortable that POTUS used article 2 powers in arresting and prosecution of Epstein

Anonymous ID: a6e982 July 14, 2019, 4:37 p.m. No.7339   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>7327

yes that was the authorization of military force . Itg was passed by House and Senate and signed by Bush jr on sept 18 2001

The House is trying to strip POTUS' powers from this currently.

The language is broad . Obnoxiously broad.

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/PLAW-107publ40/html/PLAW-107publ40.htm

Anonymous ID: a6e982 July 14, 2019, 4:44 p.m. No.7364   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>7371

>>7345 I'm comfy here. I care about real work getting done. I appreciate the patriotism and guidance from Q. I am free to go where I want when I want. I came to chans because I didn't fit in with normal society and found a home with people just like me. I am comfy knowing I don't fit in here either. Neither do any of you, so we have that in common.

Shills pop all of my balloons and rain on my parade of having a place I don't fit in like everyone else doesn't.

Anonymous ID: a6e982 July 14, 2019, 4:59 p.m. No.7415   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>7446

~ lawfag jr. Judges have a way of saying " Get this shit the fuck out of my courtroom " without using those words. They do it all of the time. Flynn's Judge did it and was desperate at the time because Flynn said he was not coerced and wanted to go through with the sentencing. That Judge later cam back and apologized for insinuating Flynn committed treason. Do anons remember that hearing? That is a prime example of a Judge playing a rle in order to get the case out of his courtroom and/or force the 2 sides to settle it. That Judge wants NO part in sentencing Flynn!

Epstein's Judge asked him if he wanted a 3 day stay of a bail hearing. The MSM told the World it was standard. ( nothing standard about that! ) True he had the right to request it. 3 days has been up and Epstein's lawyers didn't have him in front of the Judge. In fact. they filed financials late! They filed a brief that suggested he be released and used seized. property as an offer of collateral. If you read in between the lines of their brief, you will see they are really pushing the jurisdiction subject.

His original bail hearing Magistrate kicked the can out of his courtroom and to another Judge.

As a jr lawfag, I am going to enjoy watching the lawyer-ing that goes on here.