Stanley Praimnath
hit by a plane while sitting in his office and survived
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The essay by Gerard Holmgren
"The Surprising Adventures of Stanley Praimnath"
or "I then jumped over a Hedge 9ft. high"
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I THEN JUMPED OVER A HEDGE ABOUT NINE FEET HIGH
The Surprising Adventures of Stanley Praimnath
© Gerard Holmgren: Oct 25 2006 This article or any part of it may not be reproduced without express permission from the author in writing. This prohibition excludes quotation for reasonable reference purposes, providing that the article is linked to.
The claim made in the title comes from a novel by Rudolp Erich Raspe entitled The Surprising Adventures of Baron Munchausen.
It is just one of the many surprising exploits narrated by the Baron. Of course, the novel is a lot of fun but not meant to be taken seriously. It seems however that when equally surprising assertions are made by people claiming to have seen a plane fly into the South Tower of the WTC on Sept 11, then the standards of plausibility are somewhat lowered by those eager to lap up "eyewitness accounts" of the event. This article examines the surprising adventures of one Stanley Praimnath in the WTC on Sept 11 2001.
For those not already familiar with the reason for this article, analysis of the videos of the alleged plane strike and the resulting forensic scene proves conclusively that no big plane flew into the South tower (or the North tower, but this article deals with an alleged witness report to the former ).
The plane which we saw on TV hitting the the Sth tower was a fake - a cartoon, an animation, a computer generated insert. Whether the South tower was hit by some other kind of much smaller flying object or whether it was merely an internal explosion is still a subject for debate, but whatever caused the explosion it was not a large passenger jet. The Flight UA 175 to which the impact is attributed is better described as Cartoon 175.
Due to the inability to make any coherent counter argument on the basis of video or physics evidence, the large plane theorists obsess with witness reports, ignoring both the fact that witness reports don't support any such conclusion anyway, and even if they did, where witness evidence contradicts video and physical evidence, then it is the latter which is more reliable.
Even in cases where witness testimony must be relied upon because is the only form of evidence available, it is normally required that a witness report should be intrinsically plausible. Witnesses to a large plane hitting the WTC however, seem to enjoy an exalted status, aloof from the rigorous cross examination and detailed deconstruction normally applied to something which purports to be important witness evidence relating to a crime.
Stanley Praimnath is a case in point. The witness report attributed to this individual is the equivalent of the above claim attributed to Baron Munchausen. This has not stopped it from being triumphantly presented to me via email debates as proof that a big plane hit the Sth tower. Such presentations have been frequent enough that I felt it necessary to write this article.
First, here are some sources for the Praimnath report. His story is all over the web, so I've selected just a few here, giving priority to those which best fulfill some combination of the following 4 requirements.
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The earliest. 2. From recognized news outlets. 3. Contain significant variations from other versions. 4. Praimnath directly quoted rather than described as a narration.
1.The Independent Terror in America: Escapees - One week on, survivors tell. Sept 18 2001 by Thomas Sutcliffe
2.The Power of Prayer Sept 18 2001
3.Community People News Undated but the copyright notice indicates 2001/2
4.The Age June 1 2001
5.CNN Saturday Morning News Sept 7 2002
6.An Improbable Escape CNN Sept 9 2002
7.Sept 11 One year On The Guardian August 18 2002
You can read these accounts yourself, and search for more if you like, but below is the basic outline of the story that Praimnath tells, bearing in mind that it differs somewhat from one account to another. Where a significant point is contained only in certain accounts or contradicted by other accounts, I have inserted the number of the relevant account in brackets, to make it easier for you to get an overview of which account says what.
He worked on the 81st floor of the South Tower. He was on the phone and he looked up and saw a big plane heading towards him. He said "I've got to go. There's a plane aiming for me." He dropped the phone and jumped about 6 feet across the room to his desk. Just before doing this he was "eyeball to eyeball" with the jet - "the biggest thing I've ever seen". He was close enough that he could see red letters on the fuselage and the wing (2), and the writing on the underside (1) and then it banked and headed directly towards him (4). In accounts 5 and 6, the plane is heading straight at him from the moment he sees it, and he freezes in repose. After jumping across the room he dived under his desk -which as it turned out, was about 130 ft from where the nose hit. In account 7 he was already at his desk. .One account (3) says that he first placed his bible on the desk before crawling under it, although another account (2) indicates that the bible was already on the desk. He curled up into a fetal position under the desk and started crying and praying. All this happened before the impact. When the impact happened he was miraculously protected as the wing sliced through his office. Later, in watching the video of the impact, and seeing a slight deviation that the plane supposedly made just before hitting the building, he came to believe that the prayer he said just before impact induced God's hand to spare him by causing that slight change of direction which saved his life. In other accounts he says that cried out to Jesus just as the plane hit.(3).
In some accounts (3) he immediately started crawling through the rubble in an attempt to find his way out before someone arrived to help him. In other accounts, he is trapped under a collapsed wall (1), and had to be pulled free by his rescuer. In others, the exits are blocked so he punches a hole in the standing wall (2,4,6) which separates him from the staircase, to allow his rescuer to get to him. In accounts 3 and 5, the hole in the standing wall was already there.
When he made it down to the concourse, he was trapped by flames and so after wetting himself under the building's sprinkler systems, he ran through the flames to safety. I don't find any account where he talks of having suffered any burns.
It's difficult to make a precise examination of a story which keeps changing it's important details (which doesn't do it's credibility a lot of good to begin with.) So for the purpose of the examination below, I'm going to take one version which represents a reasonable composite of those above and treat that as "the story".
It was originally published by CBN. We don't know the exact date, because the original CBN link is now dead, but we know that it was prior to March 11 2002, because a blog with that date refers to and links to the CBN dead link. The blogger (who is not disputing that a plane hit the tower) makes some good points about the implausible nature of Praimnath's story.
The blog quotes only a small part of the CBN article,so here is a later posting which contains more of it.
Brotherhood Forged in the Carnage of the Twin Towers
On the anniversary of 9/11 a hero and the man he saved talk about their bond. David Smith reports.
An interesting anomaly. The linked article attributes Stanley's story as told below to "the anniversary of 911" - that is Sept 11 2002 - but we know from the blog reference that CBN published this much earlier. There isn't anything particularly suspicious about this, it's probably just the normal poor standards of verification of the media in not giving good information about their original sources. So the anomaly isn't important to our analysis. It's just that I'm a stickler for keeping theg the highest possible standards of source verification and taking a note of any anomalies as routine process.
So here is the plane strike part of Stanley's story as quoted from the article linked above.
[['I was looking towards the Statue of Liberty and telling her no, I'm fine. Something caught my eye: a giant airplane, with U on the tail. I said, "I have got to go. A plane is aiming for me." I dropped the phone and jumped towards my desk, which was six or seven feet away.
'I said, "Lord, I can't do this. You take over," and I went into the foetal position. I just huddled under my desk and prayed and cried.
'Just before I jumped there I saw this plane eyeball to eyeball, the biggest thing I've ever seen coming towards me. But it was happening in slow motion, giving me time. I could hear this ripping engine sound, and the bottom wing just swiped right through my office. It crash-landed and the bottom wing was stuck in my office door 20ft from where I was. Everything looked like a demolition crew ripped the entire floor apart.
'I thought, if I don't get electrocuted, the plane is gonna blow, I'm gonna die. If that don't get me, the air pressure's going to suck me out. I'm trapped under the only desk that stood firm - my Bible's on top of that. ]]
First let's look at the timing elements of this story. The mythical plane is generally claimed to have been doing about 500mph. That's about 250 yards a second. From the time between dropping the phone and the plane hitting, what does Stanley do? He jumps 6 or 7 feet across the room and dives under his desk. For a person of average athleticism this takes about two seconds if they move quickly and efficiently - which you certainly can't do if you're still watching the plane instead of the desk under which are aiming to dive. Then he huddles into the foetal position and says a prayer. How do we know that he says the prayer before the plane hit ?
For this we have to add something from the original CBN article which was omitted from the linked article above. Unfortunately, I have not been able to find a copy of the CBN article , otherwise we would be able to see all of this text in one place. But the CBN article contained the identical text quoted above, plus this.
[[Later on, when I watched TV, I saw the plane swerve, that little turn that it made, whatever reason it did that for. I was able to rationalize that I said what I did when I prayed that prayer. I knew beyond a shadow of a doubt that my Lord's giant hand pushed this plane a fraction of an inch.]]
You can find this part of the text referred to in this blog (scroll almost to the bottom to the Post entitled "God Saves One Man, Leaves Others to Die".
rest can be read here
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