Anonymous ID: a53350 Aug. 28, 2020, 4:45 a.m. No.10450550   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun

Anon's 2 most important things to know about Marxism

 

Religious: Marxism is derived from a dialectic in Creatology that imputes to "The One"/"God"/"Geist"/etc an inner 'schism', an inner 'division', an inner 'uneasiness', an inner 'conflict', that 'needed' the creation of the empirical universe, whereby the path to "wholeness"/"completeness"/"fulfillment"/etc is through a history of necessary evil and necessary good clashing perpetually until at last there occurs an 'inevitable' cataclysmic apocalypse of maximum depravity, pain, and destruction, after which the 'historical process' will have finally 'worked itself out', and humanity will have finally 'reabsorbed' back with "The One"/"God"/"Geist", and all Humanity will rejoice and history will come to an end.

 

[This is contrasted with orthodox Judaism/Christianity/Islam that holds the event of Creation was an event of God's Love and Benevolence for his creations (humanity). Imagine if the world believed the Creator and everyone and everything in the universe were metaphysically divided as long as the universe exists!]

 

Economic: Marxism is derived from a false description of the origination of money incomes in human civilization. Marx, following Adam Smith, believed that in the "early and rude state of society", if there ever was such a time, that the very first monetary incomes earned were wages, and that later on with the introduction of people acting in the capacity of "capitalists", there was a reduction in wages and introduction of profits. This is the conceptual framework of Marx's exploitation theory which is what EVERY Marxist institution depends on and takes for granted as true. The reality is that PROFITS were the first monetary income. In the "early and rude state of society" people made products directly from the material world around them, and sold them as commodities. The monetary incomes earned on the sale of commodities is product sales revenues, not wages. Since there were originally no money costs of production, all of the sales revenues were profit. Then, once people became wealthy enough and saved money for investment, instead of using it to consume right away, money began being used to pay people not for their commodities, which requires land and means of production of their own, but for only their labor. This was the onset of wages. Wages represented a monetary cost to DEDUCT from product sales revenues, which used to be all profit, but was now less than 100% by whatever extent wages were paid.

 

[Imagine if the world knew the reality that the rise of capitalism was in fact the end of the all profit era and beginning of the wage earning class era, that the rise in capitalism brought about a FALL in profit incomes, not the other way around as per Marx!]

Anonymous ID: a53350 Aug. 28, 2020, 4:48 a.m. No.10450558   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>0563 >>0579

>>10450499

>Communism was crested, financed and spread by Jews.

You were already corrected on that false claim yesterday. Why do you claim it again as if it were true?

 

Communism arrived in the world as a MESSIANIC CREED, inherent in all 3 great religions.

 

https://mises.org/library/early-christian-communism

Anonymous ID: a53350 Aug. 28, 2020, 4:58 a.m. No.10450588   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>0599 >>0619 >>0627

>>10450496

>Not an argument

>So Jews don't have collective power?

Kek, first the shill dismisses the post as "not an argument", then proceeds to respond and asks anon to explain how anon's statement is true, thus presupposing anon in fact made an argument.

 

The claim there exists "Jewish collective power" FALSELY presupposes that individual Jews all have overlapping interests, that there is no COMPETITION or DISAGREEMENTS.

 

It is a Marxist conceptualization to attribute "class/group interest" to individuals.

 

This is why you anti-Jew shills have to pretend that men like Rabbi Aryeh Spero are either 'traitors', or 'exception to the rule', or some other No True Scotsman fallacy that attempts to cover up the error in declaring "Jewish collective power".

 

You are pushing Marxism, and the irony is that you also smear Marx as a Jew and say Communism "created, financed and spread by Jews"!

 

You attack Jews and the way you're attacking Jews is by relying on what you call a Jewish ideology!

 

Kek!

Anonymous ID: a53350 Aug. 28, 2020, 5:04 a.m. No.10450625   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun

>>10450619

https://mises.org/library/early-christian-communism

 

For centuries the alleged ideal of communism had come to the world as a messianic and millennial creed. Various seers, notably Joachim of Fiore, had prophesied the final state of mankind as one of perfect harmony and equality, one where all things are owned in common, where there is no necessity for work or need for the division of labor. In the case of Joachim, of course, problems of production and property, indeed of scarcity in general, were "solved" by man no longer possessing a physical body. As pure spirits, men as equal and harmonious psychic entities spending all their time chanting praise to God, might make a certain amount of sense. But the communist idea applied to a physical mankind still needing to produce and consume is a very different matter. In any case, the communist ideal continued to be put forward as a religious, millennial doctrine. We have seen in volume I its enormous influence on the Anabaptist wing of the Reformation in the 16th century. Millennial and communist dreams also inspired various fringe Protestant sects during the English Civil War of the mid-17th century, particularly the Diggers, the Ranters, and the Fifth Monarchy Men.

Anonymous ID: a53350 Aug. 28, 2020, 5:31 a.m. No.10450764   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>0790

>>10450599

Anons see you anti-shills contradict yourselves daily.

One person's statements is not the beliefs, values, goals, or wants of 17 million others you Marxist collectivist psychopath.

>>10450619

Communism did not begin in 1917.

Many Jews rushed headlong into the Revolution, BUT MANY DID NOT.

>>10450627

Nope, you replied to ANOTHER anon who replied to me saying I made a good point that you anti-Jew shills are USING MARXIST CATEGORIES OF SOCIAL RELATIONS. To that post you replied "not an argument"

I don't care how you view yourself. The fact is that you are INCORPORATING MARXIST CATEGORIES OF SOCIAL RELATIONS into your anti-Jew shilling.

You are "collectivizing" individuals into groups just like Marx did. You are presuming the groups to be in conflict just like Marx did. You are presuming the only solution to be extermination of one of the groups, just like Marx did.

You are IGNORING THE REALITY OF INDIVIDUAL THOUGHTS, INDIVIDUAL VALUES, INDIVIDUAL GOALS, AND INDIVIDUAL ACTIONS.

Exactly like Marx you 'interpret' all individual action as motivated by 'class interest', rather than mutual reciprocal self-interests.

Your view of humanity is Marxist through and through.

I wrote:

"You attack Jews and the way you're attacking Jews is by relying on what you call a Jewish ideology!"

To which you replied:

>"If you feel attacked because people post verifiable facts about your group, then perhaps you need some introspection :)"

But you aren't posting verifiable facts about a GROUP, you are posting information, always unsourced, ABOUT INDIVIDUALS, from which you then commit the fallacy of composition and falsely attribute to the whole.

You are not observing any thoughts, values, or actions of any 'group'. It's all and only INDIVIDUALS.

You are not proving 17 million are guilty by attacking or smearing or proving the crimes of an individual among the 17 million. You are only ever speaking about just those individual's beliefs and actions. This includes those individuals claiming to speak on behalf of all 17 million as well. You are just as erroneous as they are.

Finally, you calling me a Jew is just your Marxist categories needing to again be shoved as like a square peg into a round hole, to again 'interpret' what I am writing as what Marx insisted I could only ever do, which is think and act in accordance with group interests, not my own.

I don't feel a shred of being 'attacked' by you or any other anon here.

The fact that you brought up the image of someone being 'attacked', must therefore logically be your own projection.

You anti-Jew shills are pushing an ideology that is Marxist.

What you are going through in your attempt to 'identify' anons, to smear them by smearing a group, IS EXACTLY WHAT MARX DID IN HIS REPLY TO ALL HIS CRITICS.

 

WHO BENEFITS IF THE WORLD WERE CONVINCED QANONS ARE NOTHING BUT ANTI-JEW, FASCIST NEO-NAZIS?

 

A: Q

B: MOSSAD

 

?

Anonymous ID: a53350 Aug. 28, 2020, 5:51 a.m. No.10450869   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>0877 >>0878

>>10450823

>"Nobody has to be a Nazi to be able to criticize Jews and Israel"

That's the MSDNC's job.

You shills post anti-Jew and anti-Israel spam, instead of targeted individuals you have evidence of having committed bad actions, and then the MSDNC media complex 'reports' QAnons as being fascist Nazis.

 

YOU DID NOT ANSWER THE QUESTION

 

WHAT WAS IT YOU SAID ABOUT FAILURE TO ADDRESS/ANSWER? THAT IT IS PROOF ANONS ARE JEWS?

AGAIN:

 

WHO BENEFITS IF THE WORLD WERE CONVINCED QANONS ARE NOTHING BUT ANTI-JEW, FASCIST NEO-NAZIS?

 

A: Q

 

B: MOSSAD

 

?