Anonymous ID: c4844b Aug. 29, 2020, 9:39 a.m. No.10462578   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>2598 >>2605 >>2755 >>2830 >>2842 >>3011 >>3064 >>3178 >>3269

from Binney AMA:

this question was also asked on the livestream here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mi6hRCCCZ7c

 

Has the NSA et al. security state essentially destroyed the possibility of there being authentic democracy in the US, considering they have both a miniscule and bird's eye view of every citizen and are thus in a position to apply statistical and cognitive science to not only map the voters' minds to a previously inconceivable degree, but also to refashion or remap said minds using all but undetectable measures? Thank you.

 

WilliamBinney

Yes

Anonymous ID: c4844b Aug. 29, 2020, 9:42 a.m. No.10462601   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>2755 >>2830 >>3011 >>3064 >>3178 >>3269

https://www.reddit.com/r/WayOfTheBern/comments/iiuixo/hi_im_bill_binney_nsa_whistleblower_the_russians/

 

EnergyDrinkJunkie:

What can your average citizen do to circumvent the current state of surveillance? Or at the very least make it a bit harder?

 

WilliamBinney:

I would advocate creating your own encryption system, if you are so inclined and technically capable.

 

Otherwise, the use of Tor can help, but I believe that the Five Eyes have infiltrated and compromised a good portion of the Tor network.

 

Otherwise, there's no way you can, as an individual, prevent them from recording what you are doing or saying.

Anonymous ID: c4844b Aug. 29, 2020, 9:45 a.m. No.10462623   🗄️.is 🔗kun

A pen register, or dialed number recorder (DNR), is an electronic device that records all numbers called from a particular telephone line. The term has come to include any device or program that performs similar functions to an original pen register, including programs monitoring Internet communications.

 

The United States statutes governing pen registers are codified under 18 U.S.C., Chapter 206.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/part-II/chapter-206

 

pen register mentioned in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mi6hRCCCZ7c bill binney AMA livestream

Anonymous ID: c4844b Aug. 29, 2020, 9:48 a.m. No.10462642   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>10462622

the only reason Snowden is considered a 'traitor' is because he 'betrayed' the NSA & CIA.

 

Both of those agencies have broken laws. Pot calling Kettle black.

Anonymous ID: c4844b Aug. 29, 2020, 9:52 a.m. No.10462670   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>2677 >>2755 >>2830 >>3011 >>3064 >>3178 >>3269

https://www.reddit.com/r/WayOfTheBern/comments/iiuixo/hi_im_bill_binney_nsa_whistleblower_the_russians/

 

Thank you for the AMA. As a former NSA employee, can Bill comment on Admiral Mike Rogers and his compliance overview that led to the discovery of the FISA abuse scandal that was used to prosecute Mile Flynn. Moreover, can Bill comment on Flynn and Rogers working with Trump to expose govt corruption. This naturally leads to the phenomenon of Qanon, which implies that Rogers and Flynn are part of an op to expose nearly all corruption in the US. What does Bill know about Qanon and does he believe it to be real. Lastly, does Bill have any connection to Cicada3301, Thomas Schoenberger, Ian Murdock, or Mike Lavine?

 

 

WilliamBinney

I'm not involved in QAnon or Cicada3301.

 

There's a problem here: I hold Mike Rogers accountable for recording, without a warrant, the conversations of innocent Americans. If I was in charge of such a program, I would have come out publicly to say "I'll have no part in this!"

 

As material came out, such as through Barr and Durham, people like Rogers felt compelled to respond. He is working to save his ass.

Anonymous ID: c4844b Aug. 29, 2020, 9:53 a.m. No.10462677   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>2698 >>2755 >>2830 >>3011 >>3064 >>3178 >>3269

>>10462670

 

hunkydoryorder:

Hi Bill. To your knowledge is the NSA multifaceted regarding deep state allied vs patriot minded folk or is it pretty much a monolith towards one side or the other.

 

 

WilliamBinney:

The people coming into NSA come from all sorts of different groups and backgrounds, just like the American people overall.

 

When they come in, they are mostly patriotic and eager to do the right thing.

 

But the culture of secrecy creates an effect whereby people are "cloned" as they rise in the bureaucracy. They are conditioned to think in a certain way.

 

For example, Hayden put out a message to the NSA workforce in early 2000, in which he said that when a decision is made, everyone must go with that decision and not question it. Sounds like a 1906 statement from Lenin: when the party decides someone, everyone should line up behind that decision.

 

In practice, this means that once a decision is made — such as using TrailBlazer rather than ThinThread — there's no opportunity to discover and learn. The Nazis failed in the Kurtz offensive, when they marched against superior Soviet defenses, because the plan is the plan. TrailBlazer is a similar failure.

 

There must be merit-based decision-making. That's why the top leadership at the agencies should be fired!

Anonymous ID: c4844b Aug. 29, 2020, 10:10 a.m. No.10462800   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>10462772

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mi6hRCCCZ7c

 

Trump sent Pompeo to speak to Binney about "RussiaGate/DNC Hack"

 

Binney has not been asked to testify in the durham cases/indictments. "No one has asked me to testify in anything - mueller, rosenstein, no one from the FBI or the NSA or anyone in congress"

Anonymous ID: c4844b Aug. 29, 2020, 10:24 a.m. No.10462938   🗄️.is 🔗kun

heveryunfortunate:

What started you on this path for answers on Russiagate ?

 

WilliamBinney:

The public intelligence statements being made starting in summer of 2016 concerned me. The nature of their reporting lacked substance. I wondered "where's the beef?"

 

Because of the way the conclusions were presented, I felt that something was missing, so I engaged in analysis of the supposed proof of Russiagate.

 

With my colleagues in the Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity, and some assistance from friends in the UK, we pulled together the forensics that challenged the supposed Russian hack of the DNC to provide files to WikiLeaks.

 

I was asked to testify at the German Bundestag, but not the US Congress! Why not? Plausible deniability. They don't want to have my revelations on the record, because how could they then ignore it. Some of them flew to Germany to listen to me speak there, but won't ask me to come 20 miles down the road to DC to share my findings.

 

double sauces

https://www.reddit.com/r/WayOfTheBern/comments/iiuixo/hi_im_bill_binney_nsa_whistleblower_the_russians/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mi6hRCCCZ7c

Anonymous ID: c4844b Aug. 29, 2020, 10:31 a.m. No.10463001   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>3021 >>3058

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mi6hRCCCZ7c

 

Binney states that a way to combat the surveillance state would be to homebrew your own encryption systems.

 

someone asked why he would give people such bad advice considering there could be weaknesses in the code.

 

Binney explains that if EVERYONE did their own encryptions, the NSA would not have "the time" to find all the weaknesses in each person's unique encryption systems.

Anonymous ID: c4844b Aug. 29, 2020, 10:34 a.m. No.10463023   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>3029 >>3064 >>3178 >>3269

>>10463011

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/WayOfTheBern/comments/iiuixo/hi_im_bill_binney_nsa_whistleblower_the_russians/

 

NetWeaselSC:

I'm guessing that you have piles of Non-Disclosure Agreements restricting your every word, So I'm going to be very careful in my phrasing.

 

There have been rumors/stories/paranoid theories about how the NSA had taps placed on the entire internet, and that the NSA has huge data storage facilities to store their own copy of everything that their taps have intercepted.

 

I'm guessing that you can neither confirm nor deny that.

 

There was a huge amount of data that somehow made its way from DNC servers to Wikileaks. I think that part is almost universally agreed upon. What is not agreed upon is who, how, and when.

 

If that huge amount of data was transferred through the internet, and if the NSA actually has taps on the whole system, then the NSA should have acquired a record of what passed through, and from whom and to whom, if not a full copy of the data itself.

 

If the NSA does not have a record of this specific large amount of data passing through the internet, that would mean that either the NSA does not have the capacity to detect everything, or that the data did not pass through the internet.

 

My question is: Is there anything you would like to say, and are allowed to say, on that concept?

 

 

WilliamBinney:

I can confirm every bit of it and I know physically where the data collection storages are in every part of the world. I can tell you the building not the floor. If you use Google Maps you can look for every AT&T Building with huge cooling systems on the roofs. (From Jose: Refer to the stream, he breaks down how he knows this and goes into greater detail. Will amend after the stream is over)

 

I gave the locations to Laura Pointers and she said she wont publish them but referred them to the NYTimes. They refused to publish them because they said "If one of those buildings get attacked we'll be held responsible"

Anonymous ID: c4844b Aug. 29, 2020, 10:35 a.m. No.10463032   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>3048

>>10463021

If you have a reddit account please feel free to post that question because it would be highly relevant considering who in big tech is currently mastering quantum computing

https://www.reddit.com/r/WayOfTheBern/comments/iiuixo/hi_im_bill_binney_nsa_whistleblower_the_russians/

Anonymous ID: c4844b Aug. 29, 2020, 10:44 a.m. No.10463101   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>10463077

it wouldn't prevent people from "being evil" and "doing crimes" if nobody could spy on anybody.

 

if everything was open and transparent, that would mean anybody could spy on ~any~body ( regardless of "security clearance" or job/position/bloodline/any other categorical factor )

Anonymous ID: c4844b Aug. 29, 2020, 10:45 a.m. No.10463118   🗄️.is 🔗kun

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mi6hRCCCZ7c

 

Binney: "I would fire them all and keep Trump" ( speaking in regard to republicans)

Anonymous ID: c4844b Aug. 29, 2020, 10:51 a.m. No.10463173   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>3269

Binney:

 

locations of NSA taps (storage) for AT&T and Verizon follow railroad tracks

 

Mainstream media should be removed from first amendment because they are not telling the public what the government is really doing.

 

(They don't report so they aren't held accountable)

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mi6hRCCCZ7c

Anonymous ID: c4844b Aug. 29, 2020, 10:54 a.m. No.10463199   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>10463178

 

What is your view of our constitutional right to not be spied upon by the government? As I understand it, laws have been passed that infringe on these rights … but of course if they are unconstitutional they "should" be overturned if challenged. I assume that you are more familiar with this situation than anyone, I would like to hear your assessment of where we are today.

 

Edited to add: Have we essentially lost this right?

 

WilliamBinney:

Fundamentally, that is correct. We are now spied upon.

 

We must challenge the constitutionality of bulk acquisition of the data of US citizens by, primarily, the NSA. The only previous challenge was Amnesty International vs Clapper, about the use of data gathered in violation of the fourth, fifth, and sixth amendments to the Constitution.

 

The Solicitor General lied to the Supreme Court to get the case thrown out. Google "Amnesty International vs Clapper" to see the details.

 

Information used in court to prosecute people can come from the NSA without the person being aware of this or able to challenge it.

 

sauces: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mi6hRCCCZ7c

https://www.reddit.com/r/WayOfTheBern/comments/iiuixo/hi_im_bill_binney_nsa_whistleblower_the_russians/?sort=qa

Anonymous ID: c4844b Aug. 29, 2020, 10:57 a.m. No.10463221   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>3259 >>3269 >>3295

Do you think Hillary or Obama will ever face justice for their crimes ?

 

WilliamBinney:

Unfortunately, no.

 

I blame this situation on Gerald Ford, which is why I didn't vote for him. He pardoned Richard Nixon to prevent his prosecution for using the intelligence agencies against the people of the United States. Ford said that in order to reduce the tension in the US surrounding a potential trial of Nixon, he pardoned him.

 

Ford said that Presidents need to have the opportunity to act freely. If they don't have that latitude to make their own decisions, they can't govern.

 

Since then, each president has gotten a get-out-of-jail card from the next president, who is hoping in turn to be able to act as they'd like without worrying about prosecution.

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/WayOfTheBern/comments/iiuixo/hi_im_bill_binney_nsa_whistleblower_the_russians/?sort=qa

Anonymous ID: c4844b Aug. 29, 2020, 11:02 a.m. No.10463262   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>3269 >>3275

ILoveD3Immoral:

Hey Bill, i wanted to thank you first for giving us an ama here, great place to ask 'progressive' questions!!

 

I've seen some newbies who are criticiing you here (they are NOT regulars!!)

 

I am wondering, what are your thoughts about the (C-19) shutdown, and the related recent protests?

 

Did you favor anyone in the recently finished Dem primary?

 

Against parties that seem to disregard our rights equally, what can the average american do to help try to recover these lost rights?

 

And a minor question or two-

 

What did you think of the federal officers deployed to portlan d whom were spotted in 'non govt' vehicles arguably violating citizen's rights up there?

 

And finally -

 

Have you seen information pointing to the insecurity of mail in voting throughout your career? //What is the most important threat for us; coming into this current election season??

 

Thank you for answering, if you can, Bill, i spent a little time trying to come up with some good questions last night after the announcement :).

 

relevant captain america 😊

 

WilliamBinney:

Personally, I thought that the COVID19 issue should have been handled by quarantining the infected people and those in their immediate proximity, and you do not quarantine the healthy people of the United States. That's the way we used to handle diseases. I agree with masks and distancing when possible, but they shouldn't have disrupted the whole economy. We should have followed standard protocol rather than creating a new one of shutting down everything.

 

I'm not a Democrat, so I really didn't favor any of them. It's up to the Democrats to decide who they put forward. I would argue they should put forward people who will push for and insist on conformance to the Constitutional rights of US citizens and everybody else.

 

On Portland: I'm not sure that's a violation of citizens' rights. Police go around in unmarked cars all the time. I don't know how you can say that's necessarily unconstitutional. I don't know the law here.

 

The problem with mail-in voting is that it should be applied to absentee voting, not mass-voting. You need a signature to verify that the voter is who they say they are. You have to have some mechanism that you have the correct person voting. I am not aware of mass-voting having that. That's a major weakness.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mi6hRCCCZ7c

https://www.reddit.com/r/WayOfTheBern/comments/iiuixo/hi_im_bill_binney_nsa_whistleblower_the_russians/?sort=qa