Re London Pics vid upcoming.
Q 4756, taken under advisement.
Will update in next 24.
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>>10787998
Fren, my hunch kinda goes against my reasoning. The reasoning is not nearly as insightful as your analysis of the tidal and lunar events. So let me offer my hunch.
The TATT's last hours before lights out and prepping for move to drydock were later than its open-for-biz hours. Not later in night but later in week. First week of JAN 2014. In Q pic there is at least one gangplank in place but with little if any illumination. We have night shots of similar scene before 2013/2014 and there is illunimation on the gangplanks, both. The hunch is that the Q pics were taken same night - via TRAF CAM - but LISA was taken on an earlier night. That hunch would mean the lights were out across at least two nights, not one such as on a bank holiday.
Sorry but can not really back this up with moar. Gut feeling. Nothing better than that, fren.
CHEERS.
BTW, if the hunch is close, then, it would mean that the EMB pics were not taken very late at night, such as after or near closing time for either TATT or HISP. There is another hunch but one not felt as strongly – and that is the empty motor cycle parking area has some significance for time of night. These hunches bug me to no end because I run on the fuel of observation and reasoning, not flashes of sketchy insight. And so I have prepviously guarded these hunches thinking not good enough. But, in response to your prev post, thot best to not leave them off the table, even if going on a hunch feels a bit too mystical to me. Hope you can empathize somewhat. No matter, scold me or dismiss the hunches as you see fit. You have to wade through much data for tidal and lunar events and you may wanna stick withmoar reliable and better reasoned basis for that werk. Fully understand.
Here is a night vid from JAN 2013. Motor cycle parking looked fairly full in what looks to be late night traffic on EMB. Pedestrian traffic looks about as heavy as in the Q pics. Clear diff is that both gangplanks are lit. Note the scarce lighting on TATT. One of the changes made to the TATT post-drydock was improved lighting from gangplank to deck to interior to funnel.
Noice post, fren. Indulge me as I attempt to rephrase and request correction or confirmation of this rephrase, for the sake of clarity.
The Critical Mass vid, shot in AUG 2015, showed a moon/EYE that resembled the moon/EYE in ROT1 which was shot in winter of 2013/2014. Based on the actual lunar data known time of day, altitude and bearing of moon, and moon phase for these two time periods, a simulation has been run first to estimate the time and date of the moon/EYE in the Critical Mass vid. Then another simulation has been run to estimate the time and date for the moon-EYE in ROT1.
Critical Mass, 28 AUG 2015, the moon/EYE captured around 7:53pm.
Using approximately the same altitude, bearing, moon phase, we have a small set of fairly close matches with ROT1. These are, in order of closest match, as follows.
19 FEB 2014, 11:33pm
18 FEB 2014, 11pm
20 JAN 2014, 11pm
The 19 FEB 2014 result stands out due to a very close altitude match at 6.73 degrees.
Fren, please correct, confirm, or modify this re-statement. Treat it as a draft and repost with any changes or confirmations.
Not to get too far ahead of this clarification step, but rather to encourage proceeding with care, it is already within sight that we have a partial basis for comparing LISA with the other EMB pics. Some of it is in the sky, some in the water, and some on dryland.
Furthermore, while precision may prove nearly impossible without moar non-pictorial evidence, we appear to be on the way to finding that the Q pics at this scene were taken no later than late FEB 2014. That is not a small thing, fren, because we do have solid evidence for the no-later-than bookend which provides a date estimate that is plus.minus a few days of early MAR 2014. If we were less cautious, we might try to claim triple 20 on the dart board, but here a few days margin of error is remarkably tight. For the moment, let's call it a margin of error of a couple of weeks. On the other hand, we prolly can not confirm a leeward time range for the EMB pics without first firming up the no-earlier-than bookend.
Yes, we could transfer the Winter Wonderland timeframe onto all of the other London Pics, however, this can not be done through the pictorial evidence we have before us today. Have been digging on the basis that the timeframe is winter and this means the London winter months before and after NYE. This seems to have been confirmed with pictorial evidence in Q's London pics at the various locations. Not fully confirmed, but very nearly so.
Apart from the lunar/tidal evidence, we are much moar loose on the no-earlier-than bookend. Add the lunar/tidal evidence and we may have a means to narrow the range on that bookend. Allow me to illustrate the point - and thus the significance of your werk here, fren.
There was a 2nd bike hire docking station on Northumberland that was in place after the CH exterior rennovations and, at least, during a MAY 2012, but which was removed some time before MAY 2014, according to SV and other pictorial evidence. Unlike the appearance/removal of the docking station on EMB at the corner of HORSE GUARDS, the best we have for this 2nd on Northumberland, thusfar, is a range of several months. We might be able to narrow the no-earlier-than bookend with evidence for ad boards on the ramp to the HISP. To give you an idea of how difficult this has been, consider that although the scene is captured in many, many vids by walkers, cyclists, drivers, and even news media, there appears to be nothing defintive that shows that ramp with or without ads on the handrail during the WINTER of 2013/2014. No guff. Coincidence, maybe. Maybe not. Got a night vid of the scene which shows no ad boards in JAN 2013, and none in summer of 2013. That moved the bookend ever so slightly. The Q pics may have been captured as early as late summer 2013. Then we have the shrouded rooftop renno on Westminster Palace. The Anon who made that a target of our diggz made yuge step forward but the best we can do is say that the pics were taken after the shroud was adjusted some time in SEP 2013. So we are still talking a plus/minus of months, not weeks.
Hope this encourages you, fren, as you can see how much moar loose the bookend is on the windward side of the time range. It may well be that we need to look farther behind us to find the truth. The basis for comparing LISA with the other EMB pics may readily push forward the no-early-than bookend as well as provide the means by which to tie-in the 'black box' pic from evidence within the frames. Seems to me that the tidal/lunar analysis will have enduring value that carries us across the time range.
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Gud thot process for figuring a scenario that keeps LISA and EMB pics on same night/morn.
Given the Iranian connexion, we may be looking at pics that show a spy cell that is not confined by the member's official roles within institutions like the FBI. Think of the reality of the red menace back in the day - on both sides of the pond - and how deep the infiltration had become. Disputed for decades but proven when the Soviet empire collapsed. Not that history repeats itself precisely, but the Iranian-Chicom intermingling would bring yuge resources into play long before DJT began his move to the presidency. Think he dabbled a bit with the notion of running against Obama in 2012. Prolly scared the DEMs - and the spy grings - into preparations. Turned out DJT did run against Obama, just not when Obama was running. And the battle has been unending. The Iran connexion, methinks, colours the London Pics quite darkly. Hence the 'black box' pic.
Another vid of moon/EYE. Was posted 25 JUL 2013. Could an Anon volunteer to inquire of the poster about the time/date and circumstances of the timelapsed recording, please?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBwmYARHP9I
Different view, from behind EYE, and recording the moon as it sets. Specific date from specific location.
Park Plaza County Hall London, 22 MAR 2018
https://youtu.be/IJP8RxQJ7WE