>>10769005

>Sorry to be a pain, are we addressing any of these topics?

1. Skripal fake poisonings and gag on SIS person living nearby who is also a fake journalist?

2. Did Boris agree to lie to be installed as PM later? He was FM at the time.

3. Skripals lead to acts of war by UK

4. Where is the Crown in its involvement to stop the original First Contact (official) Ceremony? Is it due to the LookBack technology used for instance off-world for history classes and Courts? Cover up of crimes?

We are, Anon. Whenever you are ready. Fire away.

>>10769005

"Sorry to be a pain, are we addressing any of these topics?

1. Skripal fake poisonings and gag on SIS person living nearby who is also a fake journalist?

2. Did Boris agree to lie to be installed as PM later? He was FM at the time.

3. Skripals lead to acts of war by UK

4. Where is the Crown in its involvement to stop the original First Contact (official) Ceremony? Is it due to the LookBack technology used for instance off-world for history classes and Courts? Cover up of crimes?"

We are, Anon. Whenever you are ready. Fire away.

>>10769005

>"Sorry to be a pain, are we addressing any of these topics?

1. Skripal fake poisonings and gag on SIS person living nearby who is also a fake journalist?

2. Did Boris agree to lie to be installed as PM later? He was FM at the time.

3. Skripals lead to acts of war by UK

4. Where is the Crown in its involvement to stop the original First Contact (official) Ceremony? Is it due to the LookBack technology used for instance off-world for history classes and Courts? Cover up of crimes?"

We are, Anon. Whenever you are ready. Fire away.

>>10769005

>"Sorry to be a pain, are we addressing any of these topics?

1. Skripal fake poisonings and gag on SIS person living nearby who is also a fake journalist?

2. Did Boris agree to lie to be installed as PM later? He was FM at the time.

3. Skripals lead to acts of war by UK

4. Where is the Crown in its involvement to stop the original First Contact (official) Ceremony? Is it due to the LookBack technology used for instance off-world for history classes and Courts? Cover up …"

We are, Anon. Whenever you are ready. Fire away.

>>10783004

Apologies for multiple posts. Am getting "flood detected" reject of my original post. I keep checking bottom if thread and not seeing my post I tried again, a few times as anons can see. Baker? what's up?

>>10783164

Interesting in that the site is also stating that my post was not only rejected due to "flood detected" but also "discarded" which makes one attempt to post again. To get around "flood detected", which I think is caused when copying some text from a post one is responding to, I would change either the right arrow or add quotation symbols, or abbreviate the end with "…". But the system was def telling me "flood detected AND post "discarded" which apparently is not the case. Well, in the meantime, I may try not including text from post to which I am responding. I think the system maybe picks up on the text being the same text and treats it like spamming, hence the "flood detected" message.

>>10788551

Thank you, kind sir. There have been times when the flood detected thingy happens just before our favorite poster makes themselves known. Kinda like they are clearing the deck for their post. I figer the favorite anon does this so no regular anon accidentally posts at the same time, to make sure esteemed anon will have the timestamps they chose to have.

>>10769268

Section 4

>>10795707

Think we were given delta comms here?

>>10795920

Anon, is there ANY possibility the EMB pics were taken on a bank holiday. Having serious issues with moon at SE location whilst TATTS is closed. In addition, moonrises, generally preceding a low tide.

Example- Moonrise at 9pm, low tide around 10:30pm. This may be a pointer, but will do a different spreadsheet showing any late afternoon hi tides that could be falling around 11ish(after hours) but it is near impossible for a moon to be at 12 or so degrees after 11pm.

Looking forward to your vid.

Any days you want to look at? Was looking in FEB but no bank holidays. There us Boxing Day…

>>10795963

Let me check. There was site. (something) Taxi we were looking at for the Thames.

>>10795963

There is this site for London.

https://www.webcamtaxi.com/en/england/london/london-traffic.html

>>10795963

https://makotrav.com/london-webcams/

There is a Ruptly link for Trafalgar Square.

Cheers.

>>10796056

>The hunch is that the Q pics were taken same night - via TRAF CAM - but LISA was taken on an earlier night.

Thank Goodness to hear you say that. I have been afraid to ask yet one more time if it's poss LMI6 was poss taken at a different time, like later, after hours. It is basically impossible to get the Moon in the location of ROT1 in what should be after hours no matter what phase of Moon. Am very much with you in struggles you mention. That vid you posted kinda tells the story. It is a newly risen moon, rising either sunset but surely before any close of business for the restaurant ships. We know that now. We did not know that before. Am going to look again, but it's the lights out and after hours that is killing every poss night sky sim.

Good Hunting, Anon.

>>10796080

Anon, there is only moar knowledge.

We can yet prove other things such as I mentioned, to help you with your conclusions (or shall we say current findings). See January 2014 example of why a Moon just fairly risen precedes or is concurrent with a Low Tide. Will not do all dates but only those having a Moon risen after sunset. I see I will need to do a survey of all eligible dates and make findings on the times when a Moon can be found at 12 degrees azimuth. Shouldn't take much werk as I already have a list. Will just go theu sims for dates Moon rose after sunset. Cuts the list fairly in half.

>>10797078

Agreed. Cyclists (being mostly working folk) are not out on the roads late. And the ones acting as delivery vehicles are scarce in late evening. We are starting to think the Embankment pics including the Moon pic can't be so very late (like after 11pm), as it is impossible to have a moon so low in the sky (approx 12 degrees azimuth) at that time. But I still think 90% of cyclists are not out by even 9pm.

>>10797366

Agree on gangplanks and funnel light- closed. Pics and what vid anon?

Re: tide level, see LMI6 pic. Those huge blocks are like a meter high. The level is still still 1.5 meters below the base of the pedestrian wall (which btw is at 7.2!-7.3 meters. So even tho we have no other pics of mooring showing higher tide, it's the LMI6?pic that tells the story.

>>10808403

Feeling a bit manic today Prat? Come home to Homerton. We miss you. Got the art therapy ready for ya. Get yer mum's permission though.

>>10796056

Dear Fren, I may have good news depending how we approach the EMB pics. But let me first say thank you for your over kind assessment of my tidal and lunar reasoning. If you only knew. I am staring at tablets of lined paper with different charts of side by side comparisons. I must say, though it my very low tech approach I can still observe trends like "precessions" of risings and settings. Pen and paper plodding. Current thots: I was impressed with that Critical Mass vid was able to provide. Starting out near TATTS had a striking resemblance to ROT1. So I did the simulation for 28AUG2015. A simulation for the approx time capture in the vid of LONDON EYE would be 7:53pm. The simulation capture at that exact time reflects an altitude of 6.56 degrees and a bearing of 118 degrees ESE (East by Southeast). Now this bearing may not be what we approximated on SV but I think the camera on SV has some wide angle fisheye effect that is difficult to estimate by. As an aside, we should adhere to proceeding from a "known" observation rather than a best estimate using "Kentucky windage." So using Nov., Dec., Jan and Feb., I looked for late moonrises and (this may be good or not) I found only a couple of matches using time, altitude and bearing, (And moon am phase. Had to eliminate some due to a too small appearance.), very close to the Critical Mass vid. January 20(not best pick) at 11pm had an alt. of 13 degrees and bearing 108 degrees. February 18 (2nd place match) at 11pm had alt. of 11.7 degrees and a bearing of 118 degrees. Not bad. Consider also our view from way up on Hungerford Bridge in ROT1 could make the Moon's azimuth appear lower. This might be cause to make some small allowance in observed altitude. February 19, 2014 is the best match for the Critical Mass vid. At 11:33pm(I walked the time forward to get a bearing match with CM vid) a bearing match at 118 degrees. And…, a pretty damn close altitude match at 6.73 degrees.

Now, we can discuss the other issues we have with LMI6 and other EMB pics being contemporaneous or not. But we have a couple of dates that actually do jibe with the CM cid(with known bearing and altitude).

Sorry I was venting frustration earlier without having taken a more focused look.

So, have some caps. Btw, have been using the TimeandDate.com site for a while here and noticed our favorite anon just used it in a recent post. Had me wondering.

Hope this may reopen some vistas on the EMB pics dig. Very best wishes, and Good Hunting!

>>10824416

Baker, you putting QR notables here on UK bread on purpose?

Thanks for your service, Notetaker.

>>10823104

Some moar info on those dates mentioned:

20JAN2914- Moonrise @ 9:26pm; followed by Low tide @ 10:29pm; followed by High tide @ 3:48am. Delta from low to high: 5hrs, 19min.

18FEB2014- Moonrise @ 9:30pm; followed by Low tide @ 10:17pm; followed by High tide @ 3:29am. Delta from low to high: 5hrs,12min.

19FEB2014- Moonrise @ 10:38pm; followed by Low tide @ 10:41pm; followed by High tide @ 4:00am. Delta from low to high: 5hrs, 19min.

Have been thinking about possible reason why the LMI6 pic might be taken at a later time than the other EMB pics. Need to think like a FBI visitor. Say it's not your first rodeo visiting your VIP resident at the Corinthian Hotel. You rent a car because by taking cabs you run the risk that you could accidentally leave a cellphone or briefcase or computer in cab. You have heard stories of people doing this and maybe you just like the flexibility of a rental. So, you have been to visit this person, perhaps a retired intel type who lives there. From past experience, you learned a "hack" when there is no available parking on Whitehall Place adjacent to the CH, you can park on Victoria Embankment Road. At some point, maybe you go back out to the car. Either your part in the meeting is over, or you have left something in the car that you need. This would be the LMI6 pic. And Bob's yer uncle, it is early morning and now the real players at the meeting are heading out for some breakfast and a cuppa. Just putting that out there to say it is still within the realm of possibility for the pics to be on the same night. Another reason why it could just be LP leaving a meeting early is that she is not an Fbeye "agent", the kind that go to Quantico for basic training. She was a Legal Attache. She would be the keeper if the legal file, a custodian of record. Her reason to be present at a meeting might be "keeper of the file". A limited role. Not there to discuss anything more such as the more sensitive particular aspects of whatever it was on which they were sharing intel. This aspect of why the targets are walking from the Embankment has always been a mystery. That's one possible reason they are walking from there. Otherwise, just take a cab.

>>10826754

>Based on the actual lunar data known time of day, altitude and bearing of moon, and moon phase for these two time periods, a simulation has been run first to estimate the time and date of the moon/EYE in the Critical Mass vid. Then another simulation has been run to estimate the time and date for the moon-EYE in ROT1.

I would correct this statement to say that we found a vid for which we knew the exact date it was taken, capturing a very close moon position to that of the Moon in ROT1. An enhancement of a vid cap of the clock on Big Ben gave us an approximate time that the vid ended as 7:55pm. We estimated from that the portion of the vid showing the Moon behind London Eye would be approximately 2 minutes earlier st 7:53pm. Now having a date and a time to run a London night sky simulation, we were able to obtain exactly what the altitude and bearing of the Moon were at 7:53pm on August 28, 2015. Using the altitude and bearing obtained from the CM vid, a comparison was made with a selection of certain evenings from a previously agreed upon target span ranging from November 2013 through February 2014. Whole portions of said months were easily eliminated either because the Moon appeared during the daytime or was at a phase eliminated because it was easily eliminated by its appearance as a crescent moon or a quarter moon. Was looking for a late-rising moon that could possibly be a close match for altitude and bearing as the CM vid yet be late enough to agree with the theory that the ROT1 pic was taken at or after closing time for the TATTERSHALL CASTLE restaurant ship. This yielded 2 or 3 possible days per month to look at in a night sky simulation. Final list was Nov. 20-22; Dec. 20-22; Jan. 19-21; and Feb. 18 and 19. November and December dates had altitudes too high to consider.

>>10826754

>The 19 FEB 2014 result stands out due to a very close altitude match at 6.73 degrees.

Actually due to a very close altitude match AND bearing match of approximately 118 degrees.

>>10826754

>we do have solid evidence for the no-later-than bookend which provides a date estimate that is plus.minus a few days of early MAR 2014.

Let me then also add to anon's diggz re March 2014 to say that I checked out the dates from 1 through 7 March, adding a day for good measure, and a look at London night sky sims and lunar charts show the Moon had just come out of a New Moon phase and was not even visible on March 1 and was never more than a crescent Moon by March 7, 2014.

>>10826754

>The Q pics may have been captured as early as late summer 2013.

This may have been shared but I don't think truly dug. Consider the trees on the riverside. Consider the trees in the landward side. That vid you made seems to show more leafless trees than the EMB pics. You did a fantastic job on the city permits on bus stop signs and construction.

Ate there any publications , travel directories which lovingly describe the type of trees that line either side of the street and that they were planted by this king or that queen. Find the tree, find a gardener's almanac. Are those trees on both sides same? Diff? Evergreen or Deciduous? When do the books say they drop their leaves? Worth a try. If as you say maybe late Summer, then is there a time of absolute leaf drop for those trees. Worth a go but I've been focused on moon and tide.

>>10826754

>Then we have the shrouded rooftop renno on Westminster Palace. The Anon who made that a target of our diggz made yuge step forward but the best we can do is say that the pics were taken after the shroud was adjusted some time in SEP 2013. So we are still talking a plus/minus of months, not weeks.

I thought we had agreed our windward bookend was end of October. I have only been focusing on Nov. 2013 thru Feb. 2014 as far as moon and tide. March is excluded already due to there being a new Moon end of Feb. 2014. That week in March began with moon not even visible on March 1, thereafter being only a crescent moon.

Please let me know if you want October 2013, or sooner, back in play as possible.

>>10842599

Hello Anon. Thanks for asking. For moonrise, am using the rising above the horizon definition.

Am using the Timeanddate.com site for moonrise charting as well as their night sky simulation. Here are two links to that site:

https://www.timeanddate.com/moon/uk/london?month=11&year=2013

https://www.timeanddate.com/astronomy/night/uk/london

Always glad to have more eyes on. Welcome to the discussion. As regards the possibility of the Moon setting behind London Eye, no, that is roughly East South East. The Moon rises in the "East" and sets in the "West", like the Sun. I put East and West in quotation marks because it may not be true East or West, but is more "kinda".

Again, welcome to the discussion.

Btw, I was kind if intrigued that Q posted a link to Timeanddate.com which I had been using a while now in our discussions/diggs. Of course Q was only using the time calc app but anyway.

Coordinates posted is Hungerford Bridge is you are using a night sky app that alliws you to input your location.

Cheers.

>>10826754

Dear Fren, have been thinking about what you said about the windward bookend. Perhaps there are more than one. It has to do with trees. See pics and cap. Are Plane trees deciduous? Do deciduous trees lose their leaves? Do their leaves turn brown and fall in "the Fall"? When do these trees turn GREEN again? Does it rhyme with, "When do birds SING?" Trust your digging.

Anon, need to confirm and review some things with you. Are those Plane trees on the "riverside" of Victoria Embankment along the footpath? About the windward and leeward bookends- how far can we go?

Summer 2013? Further? Spring 2013? Or possibly leeward to Spring 2014? I have taken a look windward, and the fishing is good in Summer and Spring for low hanging moons, near midnight yet. Please advise.

>>10859652

Thank you, Baker. Accounts suspended?

>>10860262

Glad to hear. Thx