I heard Joe's nickname for him was "fingerbox".
the torch bearers in Charlottesville were majority sheep who were countering the months of anti-white/blm crap they saw in the media. "these are the good people on both sides" POTUS refers to. Just like good kids in BLM events. Followers, not leaders.
The organizers of that "torch" event were advised by SOROS Ukraine coup-operation neo-nazi's AZOV BATALION in 2013/2014!
maybe they can link the Proud Boys and gun control into this.