Anonymous ID: 062478 Oct. 16, 2020, 12:57 a.m. No.11100073   🗄️.is đź”—kun   >>0129 >>0142 >>0272 >>0320 >>0380 >>0490

Donald Trump refused to disavow QAnon, Joe Biden dodged court packing.

Here are the key takeaways from the town halls that replaced the

debate

By Emily Olson and Peter Marsh

Posted 1 hour ago, updated 37 minutes ago

 

In lieu of a second debate, US President Donald Trump and Democratic nominee Joe Biden faced off in an unusual format, holding two town halls with voters, on two different US networks, at the same exact time.

 

The two candidates kept up the duality by taking contrasting approaches to the night.

 

Here's what you missed.

 

Same format. Two totally different styles

It was the Trump campaign's refusal to agree to a rule change, itself brought on by a Presidential COVID-19 diagnosis, that led to the second presidential debate being cancelled.

We'll never know how things would have played out on a town hall stage with both candidates. But in their own theatres, Trump and Biden leaned into the styles they've cultivated all campaign.

 

Before voters had a chance to ask him any questions in Miami, Florida, Trump sparred with NBC moderator Savannah Guthrie (who won praise for her forceful handling of the President) as he has with plenty of other media figures in his four years as President.

 

After the event, a spokesperson for Trump's campaign declared that the President "defeated" Guthrie, and derided her as a "surrogate" for the Biden’s campaign.

 

The President fiercely defended his administration's record and, when backed into corners on issues not favourable for him, attacked his opponent instead.

 

"You always do this. You've done this to me and everybody … I denounce white supremacy, OK? I have denounced White Supremacy for years, but you always do it. You always start off with a question. You didn't ask Joe Biden whether or not he denounces Antifa. I watched him on the same basic show with Lester Holt. And he was asking questions like Biden was a child," Trump said when asked why he didn't clearly condemn white supremacists at the first debate.

 

His answers were often short, forceful and broad, despite questions from voters and urging from the moderator about specifics.

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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-10-16/donald-trump-joe-biden-town-halls-key-takeaways/12776300

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Is Thomas Schoenberger the Mastermind Behind QAnon?[EXCLUSIVE]

By Emily Bicks

Updated Oct 16, 2020 at 2:21am

 

QAnon, a far-right conspiracy cult that believes President Donald Trump is waging a secret war against Satan-worshipping cannibal pedophiles in government and across the world, has exponentially grown in popularity since the first “Q” drop on the 4chan message in October 2017. The network of nameless Q supporters referred to as “anons” are no longer remaining anonymous, and until now, the person only referred to as “Q” was a complete mystery.

 

While Thomas Schoenberger is not the sole creator of QAnon, the psychological operation that is considered the successor of the Pizzagate conspiracy theory, he’s been identified as a key player in the cult’s growth and widespread misinformation campaign, a source investigating the manipulating forces behind QAnon told Heavy.

 

ARG developer and pioneer Jim Stewartson mentions Schoenberger as one of the original developers of the QAnon movement in an in-depth video interview with the Financial Times, which was published on October 15.

 

“By March of 2017, Schoenberger’s crew linked up with Robert David Steele (former CIA) and William Binney (former NSA), members of VIPS (Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity), a group of disaffected former intelligence officers and government officials who worked together writing editorials and sharing information. These groups came together and recruited the network that became Qanon,” the investigator told Heavy.

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https://heavy.com/news/thomas-schoenberger-qanon/

Anonymous ID: 062478 Oct. 16, 2020, 1:11 a.m. No.11100138   🗄️.is đź”—kun   >>0272 >>0380 >>0490

US aircraft carriers in South China Sea and why it angers

Beijing

USS Ronald Reagan has conducted operations in the sea for the third time in 2020

The disputed waters have become a flashpoint for the intensifying US-China rivalry, raising concerns about the potential for a military clash

Sarah Zheng

Published: 3:32pm, 16 Oct, 2020

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3105809/us-aircraft-carriers-south-china-sea-and-why-it-angers-beijing

arrrrr!!

is this site obscured for everyone else?

Anonymous ID: 062478 Oct. 16, 2020, 1:11 a.m. No.11100146   🗄️.is đź”—kun   >>0159 >>0261 >>0272 >>0380 >>0490

Town hall takeaways: Biden at ease while Trump struggles under

pressure

The Democrat’s comfort in the town-hall format was in contrast to a clearly frustrated Trump, whose claims were opposed by host Savannah Guthrie

Daniel Strauss

Thu 15 Oct 2020 23.08 EDT Last modified on Fri 16 Oct 2020 02.41 EDT

 

The dueling town halls between Donald Trump and his Democratic challenger Joe Biden may not have had the face-to-face fireworks of the presidential debate they replaced, but they still provided moments of drama and offered clear insight into the dynamics of the 2020 campaign.

 

Here are some of the key takeaways from an evening when America had a split-screen experience of the race to the White House.

 

1) Biden more at ease in a town hall setting, Trump not so much

Whether he was more at ease or felt less restrained, Joe Biden was clearly more comfortable in the town-hall format than a debate setting. He seemed more energetic and his answers were thoughtful, although they became, sometimes, overly wonky. That’s in contrast to Donald Trump, who clearly was frustrated at times during his rival town hall. The president tried to angrily talk over the moderator, Savannah Guthrie, and his frustration with her follow-up questions was visible.

 

2) Trump still won’t disavow QAnon

In perhaps the most notable moment of the night, Trump again refrained from condemning QAnon, the internet conspiracy theory that a massive cabal of high-profile figures are involved in a satanic pedophilia ring. The movement has no basis in fact.

 

Trump, as he has done before, denied any knowledge of the ring but quixotically also said he knows its adherents oppose pedophilia.

 

“I do know they are very much against pedophilia. They fight it very hard. But I know nothing about it,” Trump said.

 

When pressed, Trump still declined to criticize the conspiracy movement.

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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/15/town-hall-takeaways-trump-biden

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The “game theory” in the Qanon conspiracy theory

32 MINUTES AGO By: Izabella Kaminska

 

A couple of months ago we asked if Qanon, the online conspiracy that claims Trump is saving the world from corrupt pedophiles, is actually a LARP (i.e. a live-action role-playing game). The whole structure of the conspiracy, especially its puzzle-solving elements, seemed to us to emulate the constructs of a purposefully planned alternative reality game.

 

It wasn’t long before we were put in touch with a number of voices who seemed to corroborate the theory.

 

It’s a strange story. One that features a multitude of actors, many with varying or not-always clearcut agendas.

Here’s a short video we made about our findings so far:

 

The rabbit hole behind the rabbit hole points the finger at a small group of online Youtubers and social-media amplifier networks. But it also links into strange cults, well established online ARGs like Cicada 3301, with seeming support from a network of former intelligence operators.

 

As it stands, it looks very much like Q drops are authored not by a single person but a team.

 

But there is also a problem.

 

In a nod to the famous search for Satoshi, definitive proofs are lacking. The entire network operates around the construct of plausible deniability. And some of the most-likely candidates still deny involvement. Thomas Schoenberger, who goes online by the name of St Germain and who is referenced in our film as one of the most likely orchestrators provided us with the following statement:

 

Schoenberger bluntly denies the claims that he is Q and says he is being framed by other online personalities, including former disgruntled associates. Schoenberger states he has nothing to do with the crazy IAM movement either and finds it "silly". Schoenberger says his only commonality with Count St Germain is that he is a composer and historian,as was St Germain Schoenberger's youtube Channel "Sophia Musik" feature Schoenberger's original music. When asked about his role in the creation of Cicada 3301,Schoenberger declined comment.

 

Youtuber Defango, whose real-name is Manuel Chavez, meanwhile, continues to claim that he invented the game in a Coleen Rooney-style sting operation to smoke out how disinformation spreads across the alternative media space.

 

He told us:

 

Yes, we figured if we put out known disinformation we could track it across the platforms to identify sources of disinformation. I believe IIA is what the military calls it and we just took it public. Basically all of the methods and systems used within qanon are just direct copies of weapons grade psychological warfare tools embedded into a puzzle. I mean who gets their information from a shady guy posting on a pedofile board? I wanted to get 4chan and 8chan shutdown completely, we have been only half successful. We have been able to out so many liars and larpers since Qanon hit. Even some of the biggest disinformation artists like David Wilcox. So many so called bastions of truth just wiped off the board if you're looking at the right angle.

 

As we learned from covering crypto, nothing is ever what it seems in these worlds.

 

But the idea that Qanon is less of a conspiracy and more of a weapons-grade psychological warfare tool that takes advantage of pre-existing networks or forges new ones in a bid to amplify propaganda across the internet isn’t entirely far-fetched. The problem is, if that’s really what it is, it appears to have gone open access. And that means, like bitcoin, it can be tapped into and replicated by anyone.

 

In bitcoin’s case having the first mover advantage mattered. We can only sit back and watch to see if that’s the case with Qanon.

 

Additional material from the interviews we did with ARG pioneer Jim Stewartson, former CIA operative John Sipher and cult expert Steve Hassan will be available shortly on the FT Alphaville Youtube channel.

https://ftalphaville.ft.com/2020/10/16/1602828074000/Thegame-theoryin-the-Qanon-conspiracy-theory/

Anonymous ID: 062478 Oct. 16, 2020, 1:25 a.m. No.11100208   🗄️.is đź”—kun

>>11100181

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discordianism

 

Discordianism is a paradigm based upon the book Principia Discordia,[1] written by Greg Hill with Kerry Wendell Thornley in 1963, the two working under the pseudonyms Malaclypse the Younger and Omar Khayyam Ravenhurst. According to self-proclaimed "crackpot historian" Adam Gorightly, Discordianism was founded as a parody religion. Many outside observers still regard Discordianism as a parody religion, although some of its adherents may utilize it as a legitimate religion or as a metaphor for a governing philosophy.[2]

 

The Principia Discordia, if read literally, encourages the worship of the Greek goddess Eris, known in Latin as Discordia, the goddess of disorder, or archetypes and ideals associated with her. Depending on the version of Discordianism, Eris might be considered the goddess exclusively of disorder or the goddess of disorder and chaos. Both views are supported by the Principia Discordia. The Principia Discordia holds three core principles: the Aneristic (order), the Eristic (disorder), and the notion that both are mere illusions. Due to these principles, a Discordian believes there is no distinction between order and disorder, since they are both man-made conceptual divisions of the pure element of chaos. An argument presented by the text is that it is only by rejecting these principles that you can truly perceive reality as it is, chaos.

 

It is difficult to estimate the number of Discordians because they are not required to hold Discordianism as their only belief system,[3] and because, by nature of the system itself, there is an encouragement to form schisms and cabals.[4][5]

 

Discordianism>Illuminati

Illuminati is bullshit yet since it is "Mysterious" and no one really has

to name the Evil, it works.

Research "Illuminati" the roots of it. It was always bullshit yet that is

not to suggest that the deep state did not exist, far from it yet that

is how these paranoid CT 101 kids run with it.

Just because someone disagrees with your theories does not

validate them.

Careful with that Knife, Ockham!

Anonymous ID: 062478 Oct. 16, 2020, 1:46 a.m. No.11100308   🗄️.is đź”—kun   >>0354 >>0441

#QAnon #Theories #TodayShow

< - - - - youtube video

How QAnon Is Spreading Unproven Theories Through The SuburbsTODAY

23,538 views•Oct 15, 2020

 

TODAY

2.51M subscribers

An NBC News analysis found that activity on Facebook groups related to QAnon, a fringe group that promotes unsubstantiated theories, increased tenfold since the start of the pandemic. Now the movement is spreading to the suburbs. NBC senior national correspondent Kate Snow reports from Pennsylvania for In Depth TODAY.

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Trump Denounces White Supremacy, Sidesteps Question On QAnonNBC News

< - - - YOUTUBE VIDEO

141,301 views • Oct 15, 2020

 

NBC News

4.05M subscribers

President Trump argues with NBC News’ Savannah Guthrie about white supremacy and sidesteps a question about conspiracy theory group QAnon.

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Trump again refuses to denounce QAnon

235,993 views • Oct 15, 2020

CNN

10.9M subscribers

 

President Donald Trump doubled down on his refusal to denounce QAnon conspiracy theorists, saying in a nationally televised town hall that "they are very much against pedophilia" and he agrees with that sentiment.

In a heated exchange, NBC News' Savannah Guthrie asked Trump if he could state that the prevailing conspiracy devised by QAnon was not true.

"I know nothing about QAnon," Trump responded.

"I just told you," Guthrie said.

Trump fired back, saying, "What you tell me doesn't necessarily make it fact."

QAnon's main conspiracy theories none based in fact claim dozens of Satan-worshipping politicians and A-list celebrities work in tandem with governments around the globe to engage in child sex abuse. Followers also believe there is a "deep state" effort to annihilate Trump and that the President is secretly working to bust these pedophilic cabals.

The President claimed that all he knows about the movement, which has had a prevalent presence at his campaign rallies, is that "they are very much against pedophilia" and that he agrees with that sentiment.

Followers of the group which has been labeled a domestic terror threat by the FBI have also peddled baseless theories surrounding mass shootings and elections and have falsely claimed that 5G cellular networks are spreading the coronavirus.

During the town hall, the President also tried to separate himself from his recent retweet of a conspiracy theory from an account linked to QAnon, which baselessly claimed that former Vice President Joe Biden orchestrated to have Seal Team Six killed to cover up the fake death of al Qaeda founder Osama bin Laden.

"I know nothing about it," Trump claimed. "That was a retweet – that was an opinion of somebody. And that was a retweet. I'll put it out there. People can decide for themselves."

But Guthrie responded: "I don't get that. You're the President. You're not like someone's crazy uncle who can retweet whatever."

Trump has frequently used his social media platform to promote various QAnon-associated accounts and their related theories. He previously refused to condemn the group in August and went so far as to embrace their support.

"I don't know much about the movement other than I understand they like me very much, which I appreciate," Trump said in August.

"I have heard that it's gaining in popularity," Trump said, suggesting QAnon followers approved of how he'd handled social unrest in places such as Portland, Oregon. "I've heard these are people that love our country and they just don't like seeing it."

 

KEKITTY!

Anonymous ID: 062478 Oct. 16, 2020, 2:24 a.m. No.11100477   🗄️.is đź”—kun

>>11100434

He should be doing that in front of his 'elected" officials instead as they are the one's that sold his nation out to China.

Yet the Vatican pimps out all of it's nation states that way so SSDD.

Have you ever noticed how people tend to blame the hitman instead of the mafia boss that hired the hitman?

Strange isn't it?

Anonymous ID: 062478 Oct. 16, 2020, 2:29 a.m. No.11100505   🗄️.is đź”—kun   >>0515 >>0521 >>0557

>>11100461

>>11100481

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/600205.The_Secret_of_Light

 

The Secret of Light

by Walter Russell

4.40 · Rating details · 103 ratings · 4 reviews

This book explains the nature of Light and proves the existence of God by methods and standards acceptable to science and religion alike. It lays a spiritual foundation under the material one of science; one upon which the current New Age movement is built.