Anonymous ID: d93511 April 24, 2018, 7:42 p.m. No.1176486   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>6551 >>6695 >>7014

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(Transcript of Video posted in Bread #1468: Interview about Bergoglio (Pope); will be relevant later)

 

TRANSCRIPT OF YOUTUBE VIDEO: “AN INTERVIEW WITH HENRY SIRE, AUTHOR OF THE DICTATOR POPE ( https:// youtu.be/QpMdawyly6c )

 

PART 1

 

(text on screen) An interview with historian H.J.A. Sire (Marcantonio Colonna)

(on screen) Author of The Dictator Pope: the Inside Store of the Francis Papacy March 26, 2018

 

(on screen) Why did you write the book, and what do you hope it will achieve?

 

(00:17) Well, I wrote the book because I was living in Rome and I very soon realized the gap that there was between the media image of Pope Francis and the reality as it was known to people in the Vatican and obviously, I thought that it was necessary to make this public. What do I hope to achieve? Well, ideally people would say to Pope Francis “this is not what we expect.” I don't think that's very likely but at least I wanted to provide a warning to the future Conclave if not to make the same mistake the next time and elect a completely unknown Cardinal who turns out to be quite different from what he was expected to be.

 

(on screen) Why did you choose the title The Dictator Pope?

 

(01:14) Well, my object was to show that he is acting like a dictator, and also to point out by studying his career in Argentina that he is in fact a Peronist by upbringing. He was brought up in that in the time of Peron and he is very much in the Argentinian Peronist tradition. Juan Perón was a complete opportunist. He came to power essentially as a right-wing ruler, and when it when it suited him he changed to extremely left-wing and anti-clerical policies and this this is the Peronist tradition. Peronism is not either right-wing or left-wing in Argentina; it embraces both, they’re complete opportunists and this sums up Pope Francis exactly.

 

(on screen) Why did you initially choose to be anonymous but have revealed your true identity?

 

(02:22) Well, we know that Pope Francis's regime has shown retaliation against anybody who criticizes him, and I wanted to protect myself from that and more particularly protect the people who the Vatican might think associated with me. Now I never thought that this could be permanent. I thought that the Vatican would discover who I was very soon, but in any case from the point of view of publishing the print edition of the book it was necessary to reveal my name.

 

(on screen) What reaction have you had to the book?

 

(03:02) Well, the thing that I most like is the fact that I know the book has been read by a lot of people in high positions in the church, Cardinals and others. They've shown great interest in it, and those who are in the know and are aware that it reveals the truth of the Vatican as it is.

 

(on screen) What’s new in the print edition of the book?

 

(03:29) One of the important stories that have come out recently is the situation in the diocese of Cardinal Rodriguez-Maradiaga, who is the right-hand man of the Pope, and it's now becoming increasingly known that his diocese is one of the most corrupt in the entire Church, both financial corruption and moral corruption. This is a story that here that is coming out and I expect it to be better known in future months.

 

(on screen) Critics have said the book is unbalanced and tendentious. What do you say to this view?

 

(04:07) Well, it wasn't intended to be a balanced picture of Pope Francis. It was intended to be an alarm call. You know when you're shouting fire when a house is on fire, you don't you don't say, “But actually the fire is doing quite good work cooking the chicken in the kitchen.” I never intended to write a balanced picture of Francis's papacy. I did intend to provide the background of Francis in Argentina and show something of his psychology, and I don't think that I have been unfair there. I mean, for example, I've revealed the Kolvenbach report written by Father Kolvenbach when it was proposed to make Bergoglio a bishop, in which he said that for various character defects he was quite unsuitable for it. Now, you know some people have reacted to this as if it were a character assassination, but it's actually quite a good character study. The Jesuits are pretty accurate psychologists and if you look at what Kolvenbach wrote, this gives an insight into what sort of man Bergoglio actually is.

 

(Anon note: for more information on the Kolvenbach report (which apparently has gone missing):

https:// eponymousflower.blogspot.com/2017/12/jesuit-general-kolvenbachs-disappeared.html

https:// rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2016/01/a-job-for-true-journalist-who-can-find.html?m=1

Apparently, Father Kolvenbach described Bergoglio as “a sociopath”.)

Anonymous ID: d93511 April 24, 2018, 7:46 p.m. No.1176526   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>6695 >>7014

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(Transcript of Video posted in Bread #1468: Interview about Bergoglio (Pope); will be relevant later)

 

PART 2

 

(on screen) What aspects of the Pope do you reveal that the public should be most aware of?

 

(05:35) Basically the fact that he's a politician, and he relies on public relations, and he's relied very effectively on them for that, and basically it's telling people that they need to look behind this façade, and see what Pope Francis really is, and what he has done. Because if you look at his record on reform he has not proved himself a reformer at all.

 

(on screen) Why has Pope Francis made little progress on financial reform?

 

(06:08) Pope Francis when he came to the papacy had no reason to oppose a financial reform; he wasn't involved in the Vatican machine before his election, and of course he agreed to the to the reforms that were recommended. But for him, power politics more important than reform, and he found that he'd put in position Cardinal Pell, who is not the sort of submissive type that Pope Francis likes to have around him. He eventually found that it was actually more convenient not to have Cardinal Pell looking into things and revealing inconvenient secrets, and he's allied himself with the old guard in the in the Vatican to put things back the way they were before his election.

 

(on screen) Why have those faithful to Church teaching often been ostracized or sent away under Pope Francis?

 

(07:16) Well, that is of course a very crucial aspect. Pope Francis was the candidate of Sankt Gallen Lobby, whose object is a change in Church teaching, a relaxation of discipline on sexual morality. And this is what Pope Francis is implementing. Now clearly Catholics who believe that Catholic doctrine is unchanging are very concerned of this.

 

(Anon note: Cardinals connected to the Sankt Gallen “Mafia” tried to get Bergoglio elected in 2005 and were unsuccessful. Cardinals rumored to be connected include

https:// www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/swiss-bishops-confirm-existence-of-cardinal-danneels-mafia-against-benedict

https:// onepeterfive.com/return-sankt-gallen-mafia-loyal-opposition/

http:// www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/the-anti-benedict-conspiracy/ )

 

(on screen) Are you a ‘Lefebvrist’ against the Second Vatican council?

 

(Anon note: Abp. Marcel Lefebvre championed the use of the pre-Vatican II Mass during the 1970s-80s. He was excommunicated upon consecrating four bishops in 1988; these four bishops were partially rehabilitated by Pope Benedict XVI in 2009)

 

(07:59) This is on the basis of the book that I wrote, published in 2015, ``Phoenix From the Ashes’’. My intention in that book was to present what was the mainstream view of Catholicism up to the early 1960s. Now, if you think this is an extreme position well everybody or all Catholics until the early 1960s were extremists, but I think the modern situation ought to be judged in the light of perennial Catholic philosophy rather than the other way around.

 

(on screen) Has this Pontificate been one of manipulation and deception?

 

(08:44) Absolutely. We've seen this just last week with the letter of Pope Benedict where he was in fact expressing a serious criticism of the books he was asked a comment on, and Monsignor Viganò presented it as a as an endorsement of Pope Francis. This is the way the media have been manipulated by the Vatican under Pope Francis.

 

(Anon note: details of this scandal and the subsequent resignation of Msgr. Viganò can be found among other places here:

https:// cruxnow.com/vatican/2018/03/21/vatican-communications-head-resigns-over-benedict-xvi-letter-scandal/

http:// www.breitbart.com/national-security/2018/03/18/vatican-lettergate-scandal-spirals-down-with-release-of-full-text/ )

 

(on screen) Could this be a part of a process to create a more open and collegial Church?

 

(09:12) Well, I don't see this kind of manipulation as the way to make the Church more open. If you want the Church to be more open, then you strike a balance between all parties. That's certainly not what Pope Francis has been doing, and in fact if you speak to bishops or Cardinals in Rome they will tell you that Pope Francis doesn't deal with them in a collegial spirit at all. They were treated much more collegially by Benedict XVI. As I say, Pope Francis is a dictator.

 

(on screen) Why did Benedict XVI speak of an “inner continuity” with Francis?

 

(09:57) Well, Benedict was being polite, clearly. I haven't studied Bergoglio's formation in great detail. I would say it was simply the standard formation of Jesuits in Argentina at that time. He's never distinguished himself as a theologian. Very few people could argue that, so Benedict was being polite.

Anonymous ID: d93511 April 24, 2018, 7:48 p.m. No.1176544   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>6695 >>7014

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(Transcript of Video posted in Bread #1468: Interview about Bergoglio (Pope); will be relevant later)

 

PART 3

 

(on screen) Could you be guilty of seeing Francis lacking in theological expertise, something Benedict XVI called “foolish prejudice”?

 

(10:29) Well, I think there are Catholics who believe that Pope Francis is totally ignorant. I don't share that view. I don't think he’s a fool by any means. He's always showing himself a very clever man, and I'm sure he mastered the ordinary Jesuit formation of his time in in an adequate way. Against that one has to say that he has shown extraordinary ignorance on some points of Catholic doctrine and said some things which are completely out of line.

 

(on screen) As a historian, how does this pontificate compare with previous ones?

 

(11:16) Well, there are two aspects of that. There's a doctrinal one, and yes the only parallel in that respect is the pontificate of Paul VI. From the personal point of view, Francis is an example of a very few maverick popes that there have been in history who've been chosen without proper thought and who've gone completely off the rails, and they were they were criticized in their time, and I think that the same thing needs to happen to Pope Francis.

 

(on screen) Do you see this book as an act of charity towards the Pope, perhaps helping to correct him?

 

(12:00) Helping him? Well, it would only help him if he read it. I don't know that I can aspire to that. No, I mean, what I'm concerned about is the Church. I'm not concerned to help Pope Francis individually, and whether the book can provide a remedy I don't know. As I say, what I hope it will do is help the cardinals at the next Conclave to avoid making the same mistake.

 

(on screen) What’s your reaction to being suspended as a member of the Knights of Malta because of the book?

 

(12:36) Well, I expected this. There is a point of detail to be made, that if the if the Order of Malta wants to suspend me it needs to do so legally. The documents that I received about my suspension show that it has been done in a in an irregular fashion by the grand chancellor, Baron Boeselager, who is now in exclusive control of the Order, and this needs to be challenged. If the process is done legally then the Order is entitled to suspend me legally.

 

(on screen) Could you tell us a bit about your background, your childhood?

 

(13:13) Well, I was educated for 10 years at a Jesuit school, and I know I know the Jesuit tradition. I know the Jesuit tradition as it was before it was corrupted in the 1960s. I've written the biography of a famous English Jesuit, Father Martin Darcy, who one of his least claims to fame is he was Provincial of the English Jesuits for five years. I had an uncle who was a Jesuit priest, and was in fact the Socius, or secretary, to Father Darcy during those years, so I am quite close to the good Jesuit tradition as it used to be. One of the great tragedies to me is the way that tradition has been corrupted, and the fact is, one of the points to be made about Pope Francis is that he's the product of a thoroughly corrupted Society of Jesus and he's by no means the worst example of them. But he's the product of a very bad period in the Society of Jesus, and a very bad political tradition in Argentina, and this helps to explain why he should be so outside the tradition of Popes as we've come to expect them.

 

(on screen) How much is this to do with perhaps with (sic) a Latin American way of thinking which is different to ours?

 

(14:54) Pope Francis is not a popular man in Argentina. They know what he was like as Archbishop of Buenos Aires. If standards are so low in in Latin America that Pope Francis is alright for them, I hope that is not so, but it's not certainly not good news for the rest of the world.

 

(on screen) How do you think this pontificate will go down in history?

 

(15:27) Well, as one of the more disastrous pontificates in history. You know, there have been Popes who have been complete mistakes. What distinguishes Pope Francis is that he's not just personally a mistake, but that he is trying to lead the Church in a direction which rejects tradition. None of the bad Popes that I was alluding to in the past tried to do that, so you have these two elements of danger from Pope Francis.

 

Thank you, Baker

Anonymous ID: d93511 April 24, 2018, 8:48 p.m. No.1177124   🗄️.is 🔗kun

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Anon here who posted the transcript. Sire's whole point is that Bergoglio has consistently been a Peronist.

 

It was Peron who began as "right-wing" and vacillated wildly between right- and left-wing, because he was an OPPORTUNIST. Nobody accuses Francis of being "right-wing".

 

The whole point is that Francis uses PERONIST OPPORTUNISM, which in his case is politically authoritarian and theologically progressive due to his formation and motives behind his coming to office.