Baker, please add to next Bread
(Transcript of Video posted in Bread #1468: Interview about Bergoglio (Pope); will be relevant later)
TRANSCRIPT OF YOUTUBE VIDEO: “AN INTERVIEW WITH HENRY SIRE, AUTHOR OF THE DICTATOR POPE
( https:// youtu.be/QpMdawyly6c )
PART 1
(text on screen) An interview with historian H.J.A. Sire (Marcantonio Colonna)
(on screen) Author of The Dictator Pope: the Inside Store of the Francis Papacy
March 26, 2018
(on screen) Why did you write the book, and what do you hope it will achieve?
(00:17) Well, I wrote the book because I was living in Rome and I very soon realized the gap that there was between the media image of Pope Francis and the reality as it was known to people in the Vatican and obviously, I thought that it was necessary to make this public. What do I hope to achieve? Well, ideally people would say to Pope Francis “this is not what we expect.” I don't think that's very likely but at least I wanted to provide a warning to the future Conclave if not to make the same mistake the next time and elect a completely unknown Cardinal who turns out to be quite different from what he was expected to be.
(on screen) Why did you choose the title The Dictator Pope
?
(01:14) Well, my object was to show that he is acting like a dictator, and also to point out by studying his career in Argentina that he is in fact a Peronist by upbringing. He was brought up in that in the time of Peron and he is very much in the Argentinian Peronist tradition. Juan Perón was a complete opportunist. He came to power essentially as a right-wing ruler, and when it when it suited him he changed to extremely left-wing and anti-clerical policies and this this is the Peronist tradition. Peronism is not either right-wing or left-wing in Argentina; it embraces both, they’re complete opportunists and this sums up Pope Francis exactly.
(on screen) Why did you initially choose to be anonymous but have revealed your true identity?
(02:22) Well, we know that Pope Francis's regime has shown retaliation against anybody who criticizes him, and I wanted to protect myself from that and more particularly protect the people who the Vatican might think associated with me. Now I never thought that this could be permanent. I thought that the Vatican would discover who I was very soon, but in any case from the point of view of publishing the print edition of the book it was necessary to reveal my name.
(on screen) What reaction have you had to the book?
(03:02) Well, the thing that I most like is the fact that I know the book has been read by a lot of people in high positions in the church, Cardinals and others. They've shown great interest in it, and those who are in the know and are aware that it reveals the truth of the Vatican as it is.
(on screen) What’s new in the print edition of the book?
(03:29) One of the important stories that have come out recently is the situation in the diocese of Cardinal Rodriguez-Maradiaga, who is the right-hand man of the Pope, and it's now becoming increasingly known that his diocese is one of the most corrupt in the entire Church, both financial corruption and moral corruption. This is a story that here that is coming out and I expect it to be better known in future months.
(on screen) Critics have said the book is unbalanced and tendentious. What do you say to this view?
(04:07) Well, it wasn't intended to be a balanced picture of Pope Francis. It was intended to be an alarm call. You know when you're shouting fire when a house is on fire, you don't you don't say, “But actually the fire is doing quite good work cooking the chicken in the kitchen.” I never intended to write a balanced picture of Francis's papacy. I did intend to provide the background of Francis in Argentina and show something of his psychology, and I don't think that I have been unfair there. I mean, for example, I've revealed the Kolvenbach report written by Father Kolvenbach when it was proposed to make Bergoglio a bishop, in which he said that for various character defects he was quite unsuitable for it. Now, you know some people have reacted to this as if it were a character assassination, but it's actually quite a good character study. The Jesuits are pretty accurate psychologists and if you look at what Kolvenbach wrote, this gives an insight into what sort of man Bergoglio actually is.
(Anon note: for more information on the Kolvenbach report (which apparently has gone missing):
https:// eponymousflower.blogspot.com/2017/12/jesuit-general-kolvenbachs-disappeared.html
https:// rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2016/01/a-job-for-true-journalist-who-can-find.html?m=1
Apparently, Father Kolvenbach described Bergoglio as “a sociopath”.)