>>11816416

I didn't say we would or should resort to violence as that would never come from this anon but only a fool would not plan for contingencies and every possible outcome. I prefer this issue be handled already and I would never openly state a desire to act violently but if all hell breaks loose, they do something terrible, and the country is on the brink it is better to be prepared for such a contingency rather than wait for a message on a forum.

At the same time I will not deny that I personally believe the best way to deal with this issue is the military and/or feds deal with this in a serious manner while treating those who have openly explained their desire to destroy the west as enemy combatants. There is simply no reason not to treat them as such and the failure of the feds to deal with that is incredibly frustrating to me.

>>11816425

Indeed. Nothing happens on social media unless it is the narrative they want to push. No major influencer is allowed to survive on those sites unless they are controlled in one way or another as well. This is why I trust none of them.

>>11816430

I know this is a bot that posts this in every bread but I find it odd that they are using Zaphkiel in each post.

>>11816436

They sure did. I remember that well. Ironically the public reception was very similar back then as even leftists were in the "yeah sure he did" mode. Of course leftists in 2000 were much different than they are today as they aren't even leftists anymore.

>>11816443

Another anon said something interesting a few years ago that has always stood out to me. In many ways our analysis and research is exactly the type of thing that analysts in those agencies should be doing in prep work for larger research assignments. This is exactly what we did in the service for prep work which eventually was passed on to a group with more authority who cut it down to most poignant points, and then passed it up the chain on and on until it got into the hands of the House and POTUS.

In fact this is exactly what was done pre 911 where we were looking at threat assessments after Kohbar Towers and the Cole. Our initial threat assessment was the exact thing that happened on 911 and was sent on and (clearly) was never cared about. This took place right after Clinton fired two missiles into Afghanistan in 1999. Lot more to this but not relevant to my point.

My point is, long story short, that the work we do here is very similar to that of intelligence groups/agencies at a prep level. So the anon stated, years ago, that he wondered if our activities here were being used to offset the lack of trust the POTUS has/had for those agencies and a means to cut off the need for them while using free labor and excellent/diligent researchers who clearly would be pro America/pro west by even being here to help look into issues due to the lack of this happening in the agencies.

If true I wouldn't be at all surprised if some/a few, even a lot of "anons" have been discretely recruited during this time period.

>>11816464

I wasn't, no. What was it?

>>11816472

Yeah I am not at all surprised by that. It's a very good tool and way to bring in talent for various actions. Smart indeed. POTUS could very easily have assembled a very loyal and trustworthy counter shill ops force or research force through this method alone.

>>11816480

Given who was in control of the US before Trump and after Reagan I would not at all be surprised if every major global election was not tarnished by the very same thing we are seeing now. France with Macron. Germany, England, etc. All of them being crafted to destroy those country first mentalities and forming the globalist one world government under the control of the deep state and to destroy anything "white" related to limit their control, to destroy all world religions by either infiltrating them or pitting them against one another (Christianity vs Islam for example and the infiltration of the Papacy). And on and on.

Everything destroyed that did not add up to their planned desire(s). Trumps election completely throwing a monkey wrench in that.

>>11816498

Yet another example of just how much the corrupt media pays attention to us and our discussions.

>>11816501

Never trust a fag with a chin dimple.

https://twitter.com/eliehonig

>>11816512

Monkey was clearly an example of what we were discussing earlier, recruited. Think of the past few weeks with him. He leaves admin here and then begins posting a ton of shit about their fraud and corruption and backs it up with evidence as well. So he was clearly recruited by Trump team and probably stepped away from here because they wanted to make sure this site remained independent of that so it couldn't warrant investigation of this site.

>>11816514

Highly doubt she is more wealthy than the royals. Perhaps cash money more wealthy but no chance overall more wealthy considering how much land and assets the royals have obtained over centuries.

>>11816547

Garrison is a national treasure.

>>11816550

Doubtful. If there is one thing is overwhelmingly believe it is they never expected the outcome of 2016 and this outcome in 2020 in regards to the clear setup Trump team walked them right into. If this is what I personally believe it to be then everyone involved is in deep doo doo, including the media.

>>11816563

Indeed. The media always tells us what is going on, even when they are trying not to. The 180 we are seeing is akin to a "cover your ass" situation.

>>11816568

It will only happen if the poison is (literally) killed. Until then there will always be them doing all they can to fuck with, destroy, indoctrinate or do anything they can to harm western countries. They simply cannot live for the west to survive, there are no two ways about it. Either they go, or those with our beliefs go. History has shown that at no time can two contending ideals of this vast a division survive in one civilization. One always kills off the other, no exceptions, ever.

>>11816583

One thing we have never discussed here through all these years or at least haven't discussed much is that for Trump to have won, given how vast the vote corruption is, then someone major must have had to have turned on the deep state before 2016. Someone with an immense amount of knowledge of their activities and power to influence things. Someone major, not a no name, someone we all know and likely would be shocked was on our side if it ever came out.

On that I am personally 100% certain that "someone" exists but who it is I have only speculation. But there is just no way he ever wins in 2016 without them as they would have had to warn him about all their plays, all their methods, and so on. So it had to be someone seriously in the know.

>>11816616

Indeed. Media is always stealing our data. Usually to manipulate it/get ahead of our data to fuck with the truth but they are here, absolutely are here. They have never once done their job properly and come here, announce themselves and ask us questions as any real journalist would do but they definitely take our data and act in their normal corrupt manner. The media members may just be the most hated group on the planet at this point as even the commies hate them.

>>11816622

Flynn is a very good theory and it may just be him. Especially given their reaction to him. At the same time, I think it is someone even bigger than him as he may have the knowledge but he doesn't have the global power. In my eyes it has to be someone major, very major. Who it is, no idea, but to be able to provide all that data and all that assistance to assure the vote, it had to be someone seriously big time.

>>11816636

He has always definitely been on my list as possibly playing the asshole but secretly one of us. That is the big reason I have never spoke ill of him here among the two others (Brennan and Mr. McGoo). His desolation of HRC's campaign and the timing always struck me as interesting and put him on my radar as possibly the one who turned to protect America. Who knows, he definitely fits much like Flynn and especially so since he hasn't been arrested but I just don't know. I wouldn't be surprised if he turned out to be our guy.

>>11816670

Yeah he doesn't come off as a feminine kid fucker to me as well. He's a handsome man and did well in his life and doesn't have any of the (physical) behavioral patterns associated with those types. In truth I have always discussed the propensity for Comey being one of us here with the last time coming, hell, several years ago now. But it seems relevant to discuss again given recent events.

Someone major HAD to have flipped in 2015 to help Trump, had to, no way around it, it had to have happened and that person would have been a major source of all the intel, all the leaks, and all the plans that HRC and the DS were moving forward with. There is just no other way he would have won, that person exists. Comey was always top of my list because of his position which would have allowed him to have major access to pretty much everything domestically so he was always my top choice. Him not being arrested only further convinced him he was probably in on it. He just never struck me as the evil type. I could of course be wrong but my instinct has always held me up when it came to Comey and told me he was one of us.

>>11816713

Like I wrote, I could be wrong. But there is just something about him that my instinct, which is usually suspicious of all those assholes, tells me to think twice and look deeper into it. Not to mention he is the only person I know of who used to have such a position that wasn't immediately brought into one of those independent groups to work on or be on the board of. So he clearly is not trusted by them/those groups.

There is just too much about him that raises flags about his connection to the DS and enough there for me to wonder if he truly is/has been helping POTUS. If I am wrong, so be it, but my gut tells me I am not.

>>11816716

I don't know what you mean in regards to the inbreeding. I know all about Paperclip but I don't see how or what the Jews/German inbreeding comes into it or what that even is to be honest with you.

>>11816730

Hah I don't think that is the case. But I DO believe he was instrumental in the test phase of what would later become Q (FBIAnon). I mean, consider it for a moment, nearly every single thing FBIAnon wrote has legitimately come to pass, bar none, all of it. The person writing that was claiming to be an FBI insider so Comey would have definitely been made aware of the potential leak and it is his duty to plug those leaks. So he was clearly aware of FBIAnon and there is just no way a poster on 4chan would have gone unnoticed. In other words, the FBI has the tools to easily identify who it was.

So I have always thought that test run was absolutely known by Comey and it eventually morphed into Q. This is another reason I see him as being likely involved as if he was a bad guy he would have never allowed FBIAnon to write those things which, coincidentally, mainly attacked Clinton which is the exact thing he did before the election. There is just too much to put Comey on the potentially good guy map.

>>11816774

Yeah Bush Jr. definitely fits as well.

>>11816788

As someone who served in the military and in an intelligence related field before 911 I do not at all blame him for the events of 911. I know for a fact (since I was involved) that all our data was sent to the Clinton controlled WH after the Cole and Tower attacks and it was largely ignored outside of the two patriot missiles fired from a ship in 99 which, by the way, was the initial reasoning Bin Laden gave for 911 claiming they destroyed hospitals (they didn't).

All of this came down to Bill Clinton and his admin. Bush came in and was given the massive run around and got very little military intelligence related data as all that was sent to the office of the Vice President which was a major change in our normal reporting procedures and changed in 2000 for the first time ever. In other words, all military related data of class red importance went to Cheney instead of Bush. So it was always my opinion that Bush never even saw the reports.

>>11816819

Yeah I am in agreement with you about his Father who I always saw as having serious involvement in the decay of the west. Not as bad as Clinton but definitely bad. If a younger person who wasn't around then ever was curious about the current state of decay they really need no further look than the early 90s after Clinton took office as nearly all the indoctrination, media changes, school changes, approach to female needs, attack of masculinity, the attack of white straight males, attack of the nuclear family, attack of (typically) western religious practices, all of it, all of it sprang up during the Clinton admin.

Some may argue (and rightfully in some cases) this began in earnest in the late 60s/early 70s and in that they have a point but I believe that is when the DS plan began but it was never able to break in due to the anti Communist groups in the Senate and Congress who were able to identify and remove anyone with Communist ties. Clinton removed each and every single one of them and from that moment onward, what you see today began. People like Gloria Allred helping them takeover California was the start through Proposition 187 and from then on everything went downhill.

Christ, I should write a book given the lack of this data out now a days. But suffice it to say, Bill Clinton was the big blow against not just the US but the planet ranging from what I mentioned, to his covert actions in eastern Europe turning them into EuroCom HQ to plant issues in Europe, to China, to everything. Everyone in that admin were the biggest and worst criminals in this era, bar none. They are the worst and a literal crime family in my eyes.

>>11816821

You aren't wrong, he had a duty and as the POTUS the blame ultimately lies with him. So on that I agree as ignorance is not a defense in such cases. At the same time I have to point out I truly believe he always was a literal figurehead and never did anything made through his own decisions as it was always his admin, or deep state pulling those strings. He definitely had serious ties with Israel so I believe/have always believed the pinnacle of Israeli control over the US decision makers took place during his admin with Obama coming in and flipping that script to a Muslim controlled US policy only for Trump to come in and say "fuck you" to both and bring back America first.

But there has always been four camps as far as I know. Islam (Iran/China) connected, Israel, Britain control and America first. We are obviously in the America first camp but those others have always competed with each other globally to take over various things. As it stands I have no idea who is in control globally but I would lean toward Israel.

>>11816910

I think people focus too much on the event and not the aftermath effect it had and who it had an effect on. Rome was the dominant force and would never have been able to be destroyed from typical war measures. It had to be destroyed from within. Christianity did just that and first split the empire and then ultimately destroyed it.

I have no problem with Christianity and even am (on paper at least) Catholic so I am well versed in the belief system. But with that said one cannot logically look into these issues without noticing the similarity between the fall of Rome, British Empire, French Revolution, control of Russia, and many other historical examples and not see the overwhelming similarity of tactics used to destroy empires or gain control. If one looks at things in that manner then it becomes curious that the same players always seem to be involved and the same issues always seem to spring up despite thousands of years in between.

>>11816962

Indeed correct. It is one of the six major division/shill direction narratives they use.

>>11816976

You think I am shilling? Clearly you haven't read my posts.

>>11816975

Frankly I often do not pay attention to them and just auto filter whoever I think is one of them immediately given the patterns which never change with them. They always follow one of those scripts and their responses are always on par so it is quite easy to spot and filter them at this point. As far as which topic, that is fully up to you/the anon in my eyes. Different anons prefer different areas of research. For me I have never been involved much in the pizza related research and always stuck to different areas whereas other anons focus on the pizza stuff and ignore the things I prefer. So it really comes down to whatever the anon has interest in and what the anon feels benefits the US or whatever country they are in. On slow nights like this, as nightshift has always done this, we sometimes get off track and discuss historical issues or other things that do not fully relate with Q research which I personally have never minded since I like that about nightshift.

But when it comes to shill efforts, they are quite easy to discern after an anon spends enough time here and I suggest you just auto filter them, or the idiots who post picture barrages and so on. You can always notice who they are also by their response to being filtered as that is a big no no with them and they will claim either:

1) You must not support the First Amendment if you filter that

2) Filtering is a clear sign of being a shill.

… and so on. These are just methods they use to keep anons focused on their shit and off something important. Notice all this shit came up after we began discussing who may have flipped in 2015 and Comey, Flynn, Bush, and so on came up? They always do this when an issue of importance comes up. It's their version of "shut it down".

>>11816988

There is nothing wrong with bringing up factual data that attacks anyone, even those connected to Jews. That is how the shills get away with it as they post non stop anti Jew hate which the media latches onto and the moment anyone brings up rational and logical discussions on their activities it is overshadowed by a barrage of that anti shit just to make it appear like we hate Jews which, as you wrote, is nothing near correct.

>>11817001

Fair enough, feel free to filter me then if you feel that way.

>>11817040

If Fox goes that opens up a monumentally large vacancy for a news organization that even somewhat sits on the pro America side of things. Fox has hidden their true agenda for years and after recent events it is clear they always were a sleeper that was recently activated. But if a legitimate news group came out and by legitimate I mean fully, and was pro America, no foreign ownership connection, owned by an American group, covered the facts, had no control by the feds in any way and just output real facts without caring about who it offended, they would be multi… MULTI billionaires by years end as everyone I have ever met and discussed this topic with yearns for true news and true facts without spin or "experts". Just the facts, period, nothing else.

I would absolutely want to work for such a group and would lend my skills to them in a second. They would become a global must watch nearly overnight given how much people want that.

>>11817074

Now that is funny!

>>11817077

Flynn calling out Bongino makes me trust him (Dan) a bit more as I was always wary of him given his past job connections.

>>11817080

What bothers me most about this is that CNN is literally admitting they lied about Biden "winning" and are admitting they literally lied about the election results as nobody has won yet. And yet… nothing has happened to them. In a non clown world those who disseminated the unfactual data hence causing division and internal problems, loss of life, etc, would be held accountable. They deserve to be held accountable and charged with accessory to every single crime committed due to that lie.

>>11817098

I could as I have never/would never have worked under an anti American regime such as Obama. That being said, I feel it was/is very logical to be wary of Dan given those ties, the fact that Obama would never let anyone in that position unless they controlled them, and the Secret Service issues during that regime such as the very little discussed prostitution ring in South America, and so on.

It is wise to question people involved in that and not blindly accept their words. Flynn propping him up definitely helps me decide that Dan is on the level and likely a good guy but I do not know him personally so I had no reason to trust just because someone says he is something. I need to verify who I trust and it needs to come from a source I believe is on the level.

>>11817128

Of course I have it but even with that I need to verify everything I do. For example I have recently had an enormous amount of intuition regarding Chris Cuomo of all people but until he is arrested I need to verify it before I spurt it out as I do not speaking on issues I cannot prove to be accurate or (for myself) prove to be legitimate.

Like I wrote, I do not know Dan Bongino so it is impossible for me to get a personal intuitive measure of what type of man he is. So when all I have to go on is his track record, history of who he worked with, and so on then it is wise to be wary. Flynn's words helped me decide, nothing unusual about that method of determination of ones validity.

>>11817129

Well if what he said is accurate then the first thing that comes to my mind is Russia given what FBIAnon wrote about if HRC gets elected we would be in conflict with Russia. Not to mention the anti Russia narrative we heard for years aimed at Trump hence trying to cause issues with them.

Makes me wonder if Russia was always helping as I know Trump alerted them to a few terrorist attacks which helped them. Wouldn't surprise me at all. Now that I think about it, didn't Flynn get fucked over after meeting with Russia? So perhaps that was the moment data was exchanged and Trump got data on Clinton and Russia got data on Deep State moves against Russia to set up a war between the US and Russia. On its face it makes sense.

Interesting comment anon.

>>11817144

Right, because I do not openly trust someone I must be a poser. Your intelligence and reasoning is top notch. Do you know who else claimed they had cancer but lied for decades? My Mother did to harm my Father.

People lie anon, that is why it is crucial to verify things before giving trust. To question that is very odd to say the least.

>>11817109

Damn, 41 posts at this point. Very slow night indeed as that total equals my entire weekly output per norm. Though there were some great discussion topics tonight but I didn't even realize I had such a total, Christ almighty.

>>11817163

Fair enough, question whatever you wish as that is exactly as it should be. You are doing to me the exact same thing I am doing to Dan, which is how it should be. Always be wary, always question and always verify. On that I think you are absolutely correct in your actions which is the exact thing I am doing with Bongino.

That said, there is simply no reason an anon would be this fired up about someone being "wary" of him so I can only conclude you are either him or with his podcast team as no normal person would care to this level about the word "wary" being used along with nothing derogatory. So you are either him, part of his team, or are someone clearly infactuated with someone you do not know. Either way, good for you to question someone you do not know, you learned something from me without me even teaching you.

>>11817185

Oh I don't think he is just a front man at all. If you read my comment that way you misread my point. I absolutely believe he was always 100% in to repair the damage caused but the fact is that Trump simply didn't have the high level top secret data of their activities to be able to fully combat them. So he absolutely had to have had someone flip and give him that data to effectively counter their activities.

There is just no way around that in my mind. There had to be flipping and support of a pro America stance from someone/some group with high level access in my mind.