Amazing times when I agree with CNN and even more when I agree with Fareed Zakaria.

Trump always wins and deserves his two scoops every night for the next 8 years.

https://twitter.com/JennaEllisEsq/status/1332552383470112768

Praying Medic Retweeted

Jenna Ellis

@JennaEllisEsq

Plot twist: Here’s CNN actually admitting (among other things) that state legislatures have the constitutional authority to select their delegates.

Downwards arrow

https://twitter.com/kylenabecker/status/1332499247346888704

Kyle Becker

@kylenabecker

CNN: "So, the outcome would be to re-elect Donald Trump. Trump doesn't need to do anything other than to simply accept this outcome, which is Constitutional."

Biden voters, here's your chance to scream internally.

Down-pointing red triangle

hahahahhahaaa kek

>>11822570

expect much, much more of this SOON

https://youtu.be/GfRcgM6WfFc

>>11822570

kek again

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Education is important. I’m glad CNN is playing school house rock for their audiences.

>>11822570

>>11822602

Schoolhouse Rock America Rock Presidential Minute 1

https://youtu.be/dWe__25nzAE

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New post: The Supreme Court, faithless electors, and Trump’s final, futile fight

https://www.scotusblog.com/2020/11/the-supreme-court-faithless-electors-and-trumps-final-futile-fight/

Tom Goldstein Publisher

Posted Sat, November 28th, 2020 6:13 pm

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The Supreme Court, faithless electors, and Trump’s final, futile fight

>>11822726

https://www.scotusblog.com/2020/11/the-supreme-court-faithless-electors-and-trumps-final-futile-fight/

Tom Goldstein Publisher

Posted Sat, November 28th, 2020 6:13 pm

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The Supreme Court, faithless electors, and Trump’s final, futile fight

Much has been written about how there is essentially no chance that the Supreme Court will intervene in any of the existing litigation in a way that will call into question Joe Biden’s victory. Once the court makes clear it is going to stay out, supporters of President Donald Trump (and pro-Trump media and commentary) are likely to turn their attention to one last hope: the Electoral College. But that is no real hope at all.

Start with a brief civics reminder. The Constitution provides that voters for president in this country actually vote for “electors,” who in turn vote for president in the Electoral College. All but two states assign all of the state’s electors to the winner of the state’s popular vote. (The two remaining states, Maine and Nebraska, allocate some of their electoral votes based on the popular-vote winner in each of the states’ congressional districts.)

Each state gets the same number of electors as it has combined senators and members of the House of Representatives. There are 538 electors in total, so that it takes 270 to win. Based on the current counts in each of the states, Biden will receive 306 electoral votes and Trump will receive 232.

But that assumes that each elector follows the will of the state’s voters and votes in the Electoral College for his or her assigned candidate. Under the provisions of the Constitution standing alone, an elector can vote for whomever he or she chooses. To take a simple example, if all of California’s 55 electors switched and voted for Trump rather than Biden, then – all other things being equal – Trump would win in the Electoral College and remain president. Or if all 55 simply abstained (or picked another candidate), then the election would be decided by a vote of state delegations in the House Representatives (based on which party has majority control of the delegation), and Trump would presumably prevail because more than 25 delegations have Republican majorities.

In the minds of certain deeply committed Trump supporters, they merely need to persuade enough Biden electors to flip the Electoral College – 37 – that the election was fraudulent (which they regard as obviously true) and that Trump should be re-elected. But that is not going to happen, for two main reasons.

First, in 33 states and the District of Columbia, state law requires the electors to vote for the candidate for whom they were selected. The Supreme Court has upheld those laws. Those include 19 states (and the District of Columbia) that voted for Joe Biden. In total, 199 electoral college votes are already promised to Biden as a matter of law.

To be sure, a smaller subset of those states – 15, with 123 electoral votes – go further and impose a penalty or sanction if an elector violates the duty to vote for a particular presidential candidate. The Supreme Court specifically upheld these laws last term, in a ruling we extensively covered. So theoretically, an elector might cast an unlawful vote that nonetheless still counts in the Electoral College. But the likelihood of that happening is very low.

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>>11822746

continued: https://www.scotusblog.com/2020/11/the-supreme-court-faithless-electors-and-trumps-final-futile-fight/

Second, and in any event, with respect to the remaining Biden electors who are not legally bound to vote for him, it is unimaginable that more than a handful – if that – would ever instead vote for Trump. Electors are not random citizens. They are generally hand-picked by the respective political parties: here, the Democratic Party. To take a prominent example, one elector from Georgia is Stacey Abrams. And carefully chosen Democrats are uniformly able to agree that Trump should not be re-elected.

The pre-selection of electors ironically explains the most recent important instance in which electors were “faithless” and did not vote for their pledged presidential candidate. In 2016, the state of Washington’s electors were pledged to vote for the losing candidate: Hillary Clinton. But four violated that pledge, three voting instead for Colin Powell, in a failed effort to get Trump-pledged electors from other states to do the same thing and strip Trump of his Electoral College majority.

In total, electors have voted consistently with their appointment more than 99% of the time. A total of roughly 35 electors have been “faithless” with respect to their obligation to vote for a living presidential candidate. That is fewer across all of American history than would have to be faithless to deprive Biden of his Electoral College victory.

In total, 10 electors were “faithless” in 2016, which was itself the most in a century. Seven of those changed votes were valid under state law. Prior to 2016 (and the maneuvering of pro-Clinton electors), the largest number of electors to defect from a live presidential candidate was six: electors for James Madison in 1808.

In sum, there is zero practical chance that Trump can be re-elected by changing the minds of Biden electors in the Electoral College.

Posted in Chiafalo v. Washington, Featured, Election litigation

Recommended Citation: Tom Goldstein, The Supreme Court, faithless electors, and Trump’s final, futile fight, SCOTUSblog (Nov. 28, 2020, 6:13 PM), https://www.scotusblog.com/2020/11/the-supreme-court-faithless-electors-and-trumps-final-futile-fight/

>>11822726 why is this being said today by SCOTUS blog

>>11822746 this guy muct be in a PANIC, Fareed and CNN disagrees

>>11822751 Panic

>>11822570 CNN Fareed disagrees /CNN actually admitting (among other things) that state legislatures have the constitutional authority to select their delegates.

>>11822791

>>11822726

>>11822746

>>11822570

competing ideas

TRUMP still WINNING WINNING WINNING

Please, please, it's too much winning…

https://youtu.be/eS2_AYt8-Z0

Oldfag anon:

My two cents about all the money Amazon and Walmart and online big retailers are scoping up while small business brick and mortar dies.

All allowed

as in the end it will all be siezed

and everday Americans will benefit in the end.

It will be HUGE amounts of siezed cash.

All will be tied to serious human rights violations.

Executive Order

Please, please, it's too much winning…

'Executive Order Blocking the Property of Persons Involved in Serious Human Rights Abuse or Corruption

LAW & JUSTICE

Issued on: December 21, 2017

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (50 U.S.C. 1701 et seq.) (IEEPA), the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1601 et seq.) (NEA), the Global Magnitsky Human Rights Accountability Act (Public Law 114-328) (the “Act”), section 212(f) of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 (8 U.S.C. 1182(f)) (INA), and section 301 of title 3, United States Code,

I, DONALD J. TRUMP, President of the United States of America, find that the prevalence and severity of human rights abuse and corruption that have their source, in whole or in substantial part, outside the United States, such as those committed or directed by persons listed in the Annex to this order, have reached such scope and gravity that they threaten the stability of international political and economic systems. Human rights abuse and corruption undermine the values that form an essential foundation of stable, secure, and functioning societies; have devastating impacts on individuals; weaken democratic institutions; degrade the rule of law; perpetuate violent conflicts; facilitate the activities of dangerous persons; and undermine economic markets. The United States seeks to impose tangible and significant consequences on those who commit serious human rights abuse or engage in corruption, as well as to protect the financial system of the United States from abuse by these same persons.

I therefore determine that serious human rights abuse and corruption around the world constitute an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security, foreign policy, and economy of the United States, and I hereby declare a national emergency to deal with that threat.

I hereby determine and order:

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continued: https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-blocking-property-persons-involved-serious-human-rights-abuse-corruption/

Section 1. (a) All property and interests in property that are in the United States, that hereafter come within the United States, or that are or hereafter come within the possession or control of any United States person of the following persons are blocked and may not be transferred, paid, exported, withdrawn, or otherwise dealt in:

(i) the persons listed in the Annex to this order;

(ii) any foreign person determined by the Secretary of the Treasury, in consultation with the Secretary of State and the Attorney General:

(A) to be responsible for or complicit in, or to have directly or indirectly engaged in, serious human rights abuse;

(B) to be a current or former government official, or a person acting for or on behalf of such an official, who is responsible for or complicit in, or has directly or indirectly engaged in:

(1) corruption, including the misappropriation of state assets, the expropriation of private assets for personal gain, corruption related to government contracts or the extraction of natural resources, or bribery; or

(2) the transfer or the facilitation of the transfer of the proceeds of corruption;

(C) to be or have been a leader or official of:

(1) an entity, including any government entity, that has engaged in, or whose members have engaged in, any of the activities described in subsections (ii)(A), (ii)(B)(1), or (ii)(B)(2) of this section relating to the leader’s or official’s tenure; or

(2) an entity whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order as a result of activities related to the leader’s or official’s tenure; or

(D) to have attempted to engage in any of the activities described in subsections (ii)(A), (ii)(B)(1), or (ii)(B)(2) of this section; and

(iii) any person determined by the Secretary of the Treasury, in consultation with the Secretary of State and the Attorney General:

(A) to have materially assisted, sponsored, or provided financial, material, or technological support for, or goods or services to or in support of:

(1) any activity described in subsections (ii)(A), (ii)(B)(1), or (ii)(B)(2) of this section that is conducted by a foreign person;

(2) any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order; or

(3) any entity, including any government entity, that has engaged in, or whose members have engaged in, any of the activities described in subsections (ii)(A), (ii)(B)(1), or (ii)(B)(2) of this section, where the activity is conducted by a foreign person;

(B) to be owned or controlled by, or to have acted or purported to act for or on behalf of, directly or indirectly, any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order; or

(C) to have attempted to engage in any of the activities described in subsections (iii)(A) or (B) of this section.

(b) The prohibitions in subsection (a) of this section apply except to the extent provided by statutes, or in regulations, orders, directives, or licenses that may be issued pursuant to this order, and notwithstanding any contract entered into or any license or permit granted before the effective date of this order.

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continued: https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-blocking-property-persons-involved-serious-human-rights-abuse-corruption/

Sec. 2. The unrestricted immigrant and nonimmigrant entry into the United States of aliens determined to meet one or more of the criteria in section 1 of this order would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, and the entry of such persons into the United States, as immigrants or nonimmigrants, is hereby suspended. Such persons shall be treated as persons covered by section 1 of Proclamation 8693 of July 24, 2011 (Suspension of Entry of Aliens Subject to United Nations Security Council Travel Bans and International Emergency Economic Powers Act Sanctions).

Sec. 3. I hereby determine that the making of donations of the types of articles specified in section 203(b)(2) of IEEPA (50 U.S.C. 1702(b)(2)) by, to, or for the benefit of any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order would seriously impair my ability to deal with the national emergency declared in this order, and I hereby prohibit such donations as provided by section 1 of this order.

Sec. 4. The prohibitions in section 1 include:

(a) the making of any contribution or provision of funds, goods, or services by, to, or for the benefit of any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order; and

(b) the receipt of any contribution or provision of funds, goods, or services from any such person.

Sec. 5. (a) Any transaction that evades or avoids, has the purpose of evading or avoiding, causes a violation of, or attempts to violate any of the prohibitions set forth in this order is prohibited.

(b) Any conspiracy formed to violate any of the prohibitions set forth in this order is prohibited.

Sec. 6. For the purposes of this order:

(a) the term “person” means an individual or entity;

(b) the term “entity” means a partnership, association, trust, joint venture, corporation, group, subgroup, or other organization; and

(c) the term “United States person” means any United States citizen, permanent resident alien, entity organized under the laws of the United States or any jurisdiction within the United States (including foreign branches), or any person in the United States.

Sec. 7. For those persons whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order who might have a constitutional presence in the United States, I find that because of the ability to transfer funds or other assets instantaneously, prior notice to such persons of measures to be taken pursuant to this order would render those measures ineffectual. I therefore determine that for these measures to be effective in addressing the national emergency declared in this order, there need be no prior notice of a listing or determination made pursuant to this order.

Sec. 8. The Secretary of the Treasury, in consultation with the Secretary of State, is hereby authorized to take such actions, including adopting rules and regulations, and to employ all powers granted to me by IEEPA and the Act as may be necessary to implement this order and section 1263(a) of the Act with respect to the determinations provided for therein. The Secretary of the Treasury may, consistent with applicable law, redelegate any of these functions to other officers and agencies of the United States. All agencies shall take all appropriate measures within their authority to implement this order.

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continued: https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-blocking-property-persons-involved-serious-human-rights-abuse-corruption/

Sec. 9. The Secretary of State is hereby authorized to take such actions, including adopting rules and regulations, and to employ all powers granted to me by IEEPA, the INA, and the Act as may be necessary to carry out section 2 of this order and, in consultation with the Secretary of the Treasury, the reporting requirement in section 1264(a) of the Act with respect to the reports provided for in section 1264(b)(2) of that Act. The Secretary of State may, consistent with applicable law, redelegate any of these functions to other officers and agencies of the United States consistent with applicable law.

Sec. 10. The Secretary of the Treasury, in consultation with the Secretary of State and the Attorney General, is hereby authorized to determine that circumstances no longer warrant the blocking of the property and interests in property of a person listed in the Annex to this order, and to take necessary action to give effect to that determination.

Sec. 11. The Secretary of the Treasury, in consultation with the Secretary of State, is hereby authorized to submit recurring and final reports to the Congress on the national emergency declared in this order, consistent with section 401(c) of the NEA (50 U.S.C. 1641(c)) and section 204(c) of IEEPA (50 U.S.C. 1703(c)).

Sec. 12. This order is effective at 12:01 a.m., Eastern Standard Time, December 21, 2017.

Sec. 13. This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.

DONALD J. TRUMP

THE WHITE HOUSE,

December 20, 2017.

ANNEX

1. Mukhtar Hamid Shah; Date of Birth (DOB) August 11, 1939; alt. DOB November 8, 1939; nationality, Pakistan

1. Angel Rondon Rijo; DOB July 16, 1950; nationality, Dominican Republic

1. Dan Gertler; DOB December 23, 1973; nationality, Israel; alt. nationality, Democratic Republic of the Congo

1. Maung Maung Soe; DOB March 1964; nationality, Burma

1. Yahya Jammeh; DOB May 25, 1965; nationality, The Gambia

1. Sergey Kusiuk; DOB December 1, 1966; nationality, Ukraine; alt. nationality, Russia

1. Benjamin Bol Mel; DOB January 3, 1978; alt. DOB December 24, 1978; nationality, South Sudan; alt. nationality, Sudan

1. Julio Antonio Juárez Ramírez; DOB December 1, 1980; nationality, Guatemala

1. Goulnora Islamovna Karimova; DOB July 8, 1972; nationality, Uzbekistan

1. Slobodan Tesic; DOB December 21, 1958; nationality, Serbia

1. Artem Yuryevich Chayka; DOB September 25, 1975; nationality, Russia

1. Gao Yan; DOB April 1963; nationality, China

1. Roberto Jose Rivas Reyes; DOB July 6, 1954; nationality, Nicaragua

>>11822897

>Oldfag anon:

>My two cents about all the money Amazon and Walmart and online big retailers are scoping up while small business brick and mortar dies.

>All allowed

>as in the end it will all be siezed

>and everday Americans will benefit in the end.

>It will be HUGE amounts of siezed cash.

>All will be tied to serious human rights violations.

>>11822897

>>11822906

>>11822925

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