Bill Gates' 3rd podcast with Rashida Jones and Sapiens' Yuval Noah Harari released today: Gates bursts out laughing when Harari mentions that he does not think Popes lie

I literally cannot make this up kek…you can even check it on the GatesNotes website yourself. The "[laugh]" notation in the transcript should be labelled as "[burst out laughing]" instead.

So if philanthropist Bill is laughing in such a manner when Harari mentions, "I don't think the pope is lying", what does it really say? Either Bill is really stressed and laughing as a response or he knows the truth.

https://www.gatesnotes.com/Podcast/Why-do-we-believe-lies

https://www.gatesnotes.com/-/media/Files/Podcast/Bill%20Gates%20and%20Rashida%20Jones%20Ask%20Big%20Questions%20episode%2003%20transcript.pdf

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Transcript:

YUVAL NOAH HARARI (GUEST): There is a big difference between lies and fiction. When the

pope is instructing the faithful around the world in Christian dogma, I don't think that the pope

is lying.

BILL GATES: [laughs]

YUVAL NOAH HARARI (GUEST): I think he really believes what he says. There have been a lot

of popes in the last 2,000 years, maybe a couple of them were liars.

BILL GATES: [laughs]

YUVAL NOAH HARARI (GUEST): But I think most popes sincerely believed in what they were

telling the faithful. Explaining it to themselves in all kinds of, maybe they don't believe exactly

what they are saying to the common person, having a far more complicated theological

explanation for what they are saying, but I don't think they were lying. In the same way if you

talk about corporations, and money, and all that, it's not a lie. I mean, when, for example, you

raised the interest rate. It's not a lie, but it is a fictional story. It exists only in our imagination.

Many of these fictions, they can be extremely helpful. Even you think about something like

playing football together. Obviously, unlike religion, in the case of football, most people know

that the rules were invented by us. But everybody needs to believe the same set of rules for at

least 90 minutes in order to enjoy the game.

BILL GATES: [laughs]