I believe you
I remember the day NXIVM really broke - it was the same day that Dan Schneider and Nick broke up…. I remember posting on that thread that this (NXIVM) was significant too… at the time NXIVM wasn't as 'sexy' or 'interesting' as Dan Schneider… but I knew eventually it would be
It even traces back to Roger Stone
https:// news.littlesis.org/2009/06/09/the-cult-behind-the-coup/