>>12130007 The bill, though lacking a signature and formal objections, does not become law. Pocket vetoes are not subject to the congressional veto override process.

10 days of darkness? To light

10 days would be Jan 1st if it was deliverers to POTUS on the 21st, has the bill been sent to POTUS yet?

Has the bill been sent to POTUS yet

A pocket veto is a legislative maneuver that allows a president or another official with veto power to exercise that power over a bill by taking no action (keeping it in their pocket[1]) instead of affirmatively vetoing it.

A pocket veto occurs when a bill fails to become law because the president does not sign the bill and cannot return the bill to Congress within a 10-day periodbecause Congress is not in session

Article 1, Section 7 of the U.S. Constitution states:

If any Bill shall not be returned by the President within ten days (Sundays excepted) after it shall have been presented to him, the same shall be a Law, in like manner as if he had signed it, unless the Congress by their Adjournment prevent its return, in which case it shall not be a Law

The Constitution limits the president's period for decision on whether to sign or return any legislation to ten days (not including Sundays) while the United States Congress is in session.

A return veto happens when the president sends a bill, along with his objections, back to the house of Congress from which it originated. Congress can override the veto by a two-thirds vote of both chambers, whereupon the bill becomes law. If Congress prevents the bill's return by adjourning during the 10-day period, and the president does not sign the bill, a "pocket veto" occurs and the bill does not become law. Congress can adjourn and designate an agent to receive veto messages and other communications so that a pocket veto cannot happen, an action Congresses have routinely taken for decades. If a bill is pocket vetoed while Congress is out of session, the only way for Congress to circumvent the pocket veto is to reintroduce the legislation as a new bill, pass it through both chambers, and present it to the President again for signature. On the other hand, Congress may override a regular veto without introducing new legislation through the process described in the U.S. Constitution. James Madison became the first president to use the pocket veto in 1812.[7]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pocket_veto

>>12131631

It was sent Monday night the 20th, so the day after 10, “excluding Sundays” could either be Jan 1st or 2nd. Depending if they consider sending at night on the 20th not a full day

The Senate on Monday night approved a $2.3 trillion COVID-19 relief bill and sent it to President Trump for his signature.

https://nypost.com/2020/12/21/senate-passes-stimulus-bill-sends-to-trump-for-signature/

https://twitter.com/JordanSchachtel/status/1341378975495581696?s=20

>>12131060 The Relief Bill is an Omnibus, which means POTUS can allocate it where ever he wants.

More from “We The Inevitable” on the omnibus bill, it does seem there’s validity to what he’s saying

What is an “Omnibus Spending Bill” and Why is it Different than What You Think?

Before everyone jumps off the Trump train over the spending bill, there are a few things you should know. Once upon a time, when Congress actually worked together, 12 appropriation bills would be created to fund discretionary spending in the government. The trend became to jam all the items in one big bill called an Omnibus Spending Bill because the various factions of the Congress refused to pass the needed 12 appropriations bills to keep the government running. With Trump’s signature, Congress now has until September 30 to come up with appropriations for a budget. Which they won’t do, and will likely just pass another continuing resolution.

In other words, we have not had an actual “budget” for some time now.

First, there are two different parts to the Federal Budget: Mandatory Spending and Discretionary Spending. Mandatory spending is for programs such as Medicare and Social Security. These are regulated by law and are over and above the appropriations process. Discretionary spending is supposed to be from 12 appropriations bills passed by Congress for things such as the Military, grants, agriculture, etc. The Omnibus Bill signed yesterday is for those programs- the discretionary part of the budget.

Brush Fire Managment

There is a difference between a budget and an Omnibus Spending bill. Congress now uses “continuing resolutions” to fund the government in a piecemeal fashion rather than an actual budget. They do that because they can’t work together and everyone is pushing their own agenda rather than for the good of the United States. They are moving from crisis to crisis rather than having a genuine budget that would reduce the pork.

Let’s view this here:

“The budget and spending process of the United States federal government is a complex one. The United States budget process traditionally begins when the President of the United States submits a budget request to Congress. The Budget and Accounting Act of 1921 requires the President to submit the budget to Congress for each fiscal year, which is the 12-month period beginning on October 1 and ending on September 30 of the next calendar year. The current federal budget law (31 U.S.C. § 1105(a)) requires that the President submit his or her budget request between the first Monday in January and the first Monday in February. However, it is Congress that actually establishes the budget, as the U.S. Constitution (Article I, section 9, clause 7) states that “No money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law; and a regular Statement and Account of Receipts and Expenditures of all public Money shall be published from time to time.” The President does not sign the final budget. “

https://www.unclesamsmisguidedchildren.com/omnibus-spending-bill-and-why-different-what-you-think/

https://twitter.com/WeTheInevitable/status/1341169469591330817?s=20

>>12131943

More from the article just posted

In Obama’s 2009 Omnibus Bill, there were 8,500 earmarks. Call that pork barrel politics, if you like. But enough heat was generated over it that Obama promised to do something about the “pork.” He didn’t, by the way. As long as the use of Omnibus Spending Bills is in play, special interest spending will continue.

Does the President have “discretionary” power over the funds in the Omnibus Bill? Yes

Presidents can use their INFLUENCE over any items that have been appropriated, depending on the agencies involved. Obama used his to influence spending in agencies that were advancing his agenda. In short, there is little information to tell us how appropriated money is actually spent. But there are still some rules.

Duke U noted,

“Nevertheless, while it is up to Congress to appropriate funds, it is also true that the President and the executive branch enjoy considerable discretion as to how those funds are spent. Existing studies tell us how the President formulates the budget and how Congress acts on the budget requests he submits. Surprisingly, we know relatively little about how the money, once appropriated, is actually spent.”

Example of limitations: Funds cannot be transferred from one account to another. According to Vanderbilt, “Some agencies, such as the Department of Defense, have limited authority to transfer a percentage of funds among their accounts (Tollestrup 2014, 13). Such authority usually comes with the requirement that the agency notify the appropriate committees in Congress when they do so.”

Moving money WITHIN an account is not as “observable” because the actual total of money remains the same. Funds can also be “deferred” or spent at another time. Congress can “rescind” funds by legislative action as well (which means that they actually CAN withhold monies from Sanctuary cities).

The Office of Management and Budget has control over apportioning the funds to the specific agencies. There are a lot of gray areas that Presidents and even Congress can use to influence spending, but there is also a lot of paperwork required.

“These decisions are an omnipresent component of agency management across presidential administrations. What managers do with the spending discretion inherent in the executive function is structured by their understanding of the law, their beliefs about the continuing wishes of committees, and their views about what is best for their organization and policy. The bulk of what happens with spending is not reviewed by congressional committees or staffs. Voluminous reporting requirements and the annual appropriations process provide committees regular opportunities to learn about agency choices if they choose to but managing the details of spending is difficult.”

Lump Sum Appropriations

From the beginnings of American history, lump sum appropriations have been a source of contention. Jeffersonian Republicans wanted legal restraints, while the Federalists wanted Executive discretion. They soon realized the making too many laws over the funding of specific appropriations was going to produce a quagmire of miniscule laws that would hamstring the government from working at all.

So we have today a mix of both: mandatory spending and discretionary spending. So does the President have the ability to use the funds as he chooses? Yes, to a point. President Trump was not happy with the Omnibus Spending Bill of 2018, and voiced his displeasure up until he actually signed it at the last minute. He can’t take money from the Jordan Wall, for example to make his own wall, depending on where those monies are appropriated. But within the budget there are likely places where he can adjust the way the monies are spent.

All of that depends on what happens on September 30, and whether Congress is able to actually pass a real “budget.” Not holding our breath on that one.

https://www.unclesamsmisguidedchildren.com/omnibus-spending-bill-and-why-different-what-you-think/

>>12131060 The Relief Bill is an Omnibus, which means POTUS can allocate it where ever he wants.

“These decisions are an omnipresent component of agency management across presidential administrations. What managers do with the spending discretion inherent in the executive function is structured by their understanding of the law, their beliefs about the continuing wishes of committees, and their views about what is best for their organization and policy. The bulk of what happens with spending is not reviewed by congressional committees or staffs. Voluminous reporting requirements and the annual appropriations process provide committees regular opportunities to learn about agency choices if they choose to but managing the details of spending is difficult

I was thinking the agency in charge of disbursing all the foreign countries earmarks the SOS under Mike Pompeo. under the USAID department. USAID is wildly corrupt and rarely does the money get to the country named.

Can’t he just refuse to spend it?