Anonymous ID: 752cfa Jan. 10, 2021, 1:16 p.m. No.12449896   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9996 >>0061 >>0146 >>0189 >>0201 >>0266 >>0440

answer to pb notables: there already is an open source secure phone: Librem 5

 

secanon here, in response to:

>>12448209 Any tech fags could you develop this?

where they ask if a secure and private phone can be made, in response to what Apple and Android are doing.

 

There actually already is such a phone, made by the people at purism (https://puri.sm), called the Librem 5:

https://puri.sm/products/librem-5/

 

They developed the phone exactly to solve that Google/Apple problem, starting years ago, with privacy and (verifiable) security in mind:

  • they designed the motherboard themselves, with hardware security in mind

  • all the components on the main motherboard have open source firmwares

  • they could not find a 4G chip with open source firmware on the market, so they added on the motherboard a daughter board port that can be used to add a 4G module, but will be unprivileged with respect to the rest of the system in terms of security (hardware level enforcement)

  • if I understand correctly, the full hardware specs, wiring schematics, etc. will be open source

  • it runs a completely open source version of linux

  • they developed phone software (call, messaging, keyboard, etc.) that runs on linux, not Android

  • there is zero bit of Android on it

  • for other secanons, the security architecture is very well done, hardware-level segregation of memory accesses, sound crypto of the boot chain starting at the root of trust, etc.

  • doing a security architecture right is hard, and it seems they did it right. It looks similar to real-world security architecture I've seen in the industry.

  • there are physical kill switches for:

= wireless radios (WiFi and Bluetooth)

= cellular signal

= microphone

= and camera

 

They have been working on it for years, and they are just reaching the mass production stage -perfect fit for our current times.

 

It's not the latest and greatest in terms of high-tech features, but it seems to be a decent phone if your goal is to get away from Google and Apple, and have a phone with which you can make sure that it is not spying on you, or running root-level or sub-root level (hypervisor) spyware.

 

Well, at least, it's available now, it's not a pipe dream that may or may not happen in the future.

Anonymous ID: 752cfa Jan. 10, 2021, 1:33 p.m. No.12450214   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0264 >>0297

>>12450075

>>12450061

>whats the dif between graphene and lineage?

GrapheneOS is a very secure rework of Android, that mostly works on Goggle Pixels because they have all the right security modules (crypto stores, etc.), in a reprogrammable state.

Also, the dev of GrapheneOS really knows what he's doing in terms of security

 

LineageOS is an Android Rom, where they removed some programs and added a few features, where you can choose not to install google programs if you want to, but it's not security oriented at all. It's worse actually: to install it, you have to disable secureboot -the root partition can be modified

 

TL;DR:

  • GrapheneOS: security oriented, well done by someone who knows what he's doing (max security and privacy)

  • LineageOS: a convenient solution, where you can remove some google programs (little gain in privacy), but not secure at all

Anonymous ID: 752cfa Jan. 10, 2021, 1:35 p.m. No.12450266   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0285 >>0419

>>12449896

>>12450189

>another alternative:

>https://www.pine64.org/pinephone/

pine phone is not a secure alternative

 

many closed source blob

motherboard is not custom made and made in China

many other technical reasons

 

pinephone is just a cheap solution if you want to run linux on a phone

 

but it's not secure

Anonymous ID: 752cfa Jan. 10, 2021, 1:41 p.m. No.12450390   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0408 >>0421 >>0454

>>12450299

All the cabal orgs are in Switzerland:

-BIS

-WHO

-IMF

etc.

 

All the socialist revolutions where brainstormed in Switzerland during the 18th century

 

Many other stuff in Switzerland

 

It's much more than the banks…