Okay. I wrote this up last night and shared it. I know it is long. I think it is relevant or interesting at least. Anyway. If you are bored and wanna read my life story about a pagan worshippin' family and weirdo ancestors. Go ahead. Enoy the fagspamdrama.

I dunno. I think I was raised a cult slave and I am still stuck in the "cabal structure".

the whole thing is fucked. I was raised as a child to be an atheist. I was given an "earth-based humanist" approach to "spirtuality"

this shit is pagan as fuck and the family I was raised in thinks it is like… not pagan? they don't see the "sin". I mean. They don't believe in sin. But they don't believe I am telling them is reasonable about the Christian perspective on their "religion"

They don't see the "relationship" or perceived relationship with their open-minded, non-theistic, teachings and the christian perspective.

They don't believe there is anything higher than the human. There is no god. I guess this means they think they are god? But they don't see it that way. It just "humanist"

It is something intellectual and scientific to them. Like the church won't say it officially, but I hear people quote the statistic all the time that unitarian universalim has the highest % of congregation holding a P.h.D.. Do I care, no? Just trying to paint an image of the crowd.

The earth birthed them, making the Earth the creator, but the Earth is not "worshipped" so it isn't a goddess deity…

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>>12552959

Check this out. I think I was raised by the cabal.

I am going to give you my "sauce". It isn't all sauce. It is just my life. You all see what you think. Am I being dumb and hyping up all this stuff into my own fairy tale?

Seriously. I see it like a symptoms. What are the symptoms you might be a cabal brainwash slave or something. I feel like I have a bunch of "indicators"

Okay. So. I that got really long.

Anyway.

I think I am in some sort of strange life. I think I am doing Q and my family is cabal.

What am I going to do about it?

I can't abandon my family based on some bullshit I am fabricating with an active imagination.

It is really hard to see the "devil" stuff and all that. I didn't EVER consider it that way til later. So, just brainwash I guess. I don't know how it operates. I just know it does and I am not in on it.

Anyway. Apparently my great-grandfather, Roy Jestice, born 1905, was placed in a Masonic Home for Widows and Children after his father passed away in a coal mine. Strange enough, the obituary has been removed from the web.

Okay. So I found it doing genealogy research. I thought it was interesting enough. I found some other random relatives with masonic symbols on their headstones, but that wasn't uncommon I suppose. If I am cabal, I believe this is where it started for my family possibly.

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>>12552968

My grandfather was a Lt. Colonel in the airforce. He was a civil engineer. Served in Korea and something else. It wasn't vietnam. Anyway. Irrelevant. After he died I got his records and his box of military medals and stuff. He had 5DOSI clearance at wright-patterson, it was about 1965 if I remember right. I guess 5th district office of special investigations. I couldn't really find much about it. Just some vague crap. What else. I don't remember him wearing anything masonic, but I wouldn't have noticed probably. He went to A&M and was a big aggie. He was always tossing up the aggie gang sign at church. He did charity work, but nothing with the masons. I know he was like a habitat for humanity director of some sort for a while after he retired. Oh. The best part. He is a weirdo. I don't ever remember him being weird with me. But, like my mom didn't really leave me alone with him and stuff. I did ask my mom about it and I will tell you more. My mom told me when I was in highschool that my grandpa was a bit a weirdo, just "in case" he ever did anything bad to me. I don't remember anything ever happening to me, so what the fuck do I know. I don't think so though, cause my mom said that nothing ever "happened" to her. So let me explain. My mother told me that my grandpa did weird stuff but didn't have sex with the kids. He walked around the house in a jock strap. He would dress his young boys in dresses as punishment. I don't know exactly. I just know that it was something that happened when my mom was a kid. I will get back top this in a minute but I need to build the story a bit more.

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>>12552972

I grew up in a nice life. I never thought of my mom as a weirdo or anything like that. She is a self proclaimed atheist. I did grow up in a Unitarian Universalist church. I didn't think much of my liberal education in spirituality, sexuality, etc. I was just a liberal. I never looked around and thought anything besides… my life. So, this church is like a judeo-christian chuirch that doesn't have a "belief" system, but more like a doctrine about treating everything with respect and dignity. My mother was, for most of my life, the childrens director of religous education. It is a decent sized church in a decent sized major city. Top 50 biggest cities in the United States, just for some context of scale. I only remember one song from church camp and it was called "The Earth is Our Mother", it was about taking care of the Earth, "the earth is our mother, the sky our father, the trees our brothers and the rivers our daughters. We must take care of them". Those were the lyrics. It was never presented as a "religion" or theology. I look back and wonder if it is a form of paganism. Anyway. I can't sit around with weak sauce and go through life assuming my family is just the cabal. It doesn't work that way. Either they fucked you as a human being and made you a slave, or they didn't. You gotta have sauce America. Anyway. This is some shit I found about the Unitarian Universalist church and the illuminati. I didn't notice when I was there, but when I looked back I saw it clear. The church was all like "intellectual, science, libtard" people. There was a meeting room named after Thomas Jefferson, a mason. I was in this room, and the preacher came through showing some "prospective members" the room and he was showing them all the portraits on the wall. I don't remember who the men were, but I bet they were fucking a couple masons up there. I don't know.

>>12552976

Oh, it gets better America. A few years back. My mom lost her job. She didn't get in any trouble, but the police became involved. There was accusations of sexual assault in her youth program. Look. I grew up in the church. I didn't think it was strange. But part of the culture. Is they allow kids to be co-ed in highschool youth group "camping" trips and stuff. I mean. I had 2 lesbians climbing over me before I hit puberty. I was like a jr. counciler, maybe 9th grade, working at the vacation church summer camp. But at the end of the week we had a sleepover for all the counselors. And I wasn't really a part of this, I went once. But the high school youth have "rallies". All the churches meet up and the kids all hang out and it is like a little regional youth group that meets up every couple months. It was just not very supervised. It was like plausible deniability. There were adults in the building. The kids were fooling around sometimes. The adults allowed the environment to exist that made it possible for the kids to "be themselves" or something. Anyway. I think my mom didn't see it as potentially criminal. She is still convinced it was normal. I don't know if 16 kids should be fucking each other at a church camp. If I was raised by a cabal cult, my judgement probably isn't best. Okay. So… I wasn't real involved with the church like my parents and sister. Okay. Hold on. I gotta get through this shit. I keep remembering more random facts that are, maybe relevant. I went to one weekend church camp every year. It was normal, we slept it cabins. The adults played music, the kids ran around and played. There were puzzles and games. Food and good fun. There was a campfire at night and there was a lady that would belly dance topless. A bit odd for a church, but whatever. The women would also take a group bath during the weekend and many would do it naked. I dont know what all that means. It was probably a cleansing ceremony or something. I think my mom did it, but I am sure she was not one of the naked ladies. She is more moderate/modest than some people there. My best friend's mother didn't like him coming with me to the "devil church", but he would come with me to stuff sometimes. I never thought of it as a devil church and I was taught satanism was just a nice religion with a scary name. I was raised to see all religions as valid paths towards some kind of truth. I was never shown satanism or anything, but the church did [help] put up a satan statue on government property. I just thought it was whatever, interfaith alliance stuff that was just a "joke" but not a joke. It was like a stance against christian symbols on government property. I didn't like christians growing up. I just didn't understand. I never learned about God. I thought they were the people that were responsible for everything bad in the world. If they weren't following "stupid scriptures" they wouldn't be destructive. Deluded, whatever, I was raised in these places America. All I am saying it was presented as a "political statement", not related to actual satanism. I was never introduced to any occultism of any kind, not too strange or anything.

>>12552978

I will see what I can come up with. It is like, as life goes on, more things that were normal parts of my life strike me as "strange". There was a women's coven that met in the "women's room" in the basement. I don't know what they were doing in there, I just know they were wiccans. They seemed like nice people to me, they did tarot cards and crystals and stuff I guess. I went to a little trade show thing with them onetime where is like metaphysical everything. But.

I went to another weeklong summercamp every year as a kid. They had workshops on all sorts of topics like music, or leaf pressing, or whatever. You could like pick from a catalogue. It was in a hotel though. So god only knows what was going on. I can't remember anything particularly odd about that place. However. I went back as an adult. They have a special young adult camp. I didn't know what it was and my mom wanted to take me out there, so I went. I thought it was neat at the time. I will tell you the "strange" part. There was a bunch of drinking and weed. This is totally irrelevant, put I want to paint a picture of this place. There was a game and we all stood in a circle and everybody holds a 40oz beer in both hands. So like 2 people are holding the same bottle. And you duct tape your hands to the bottle and it is like, you have to help eachother drink cause you are both taped to the same bottle, but with different people on both sides and everyone is trying to drink both there beers as fast as possible. Uh. Okay. So there was like privilege training for oppression points. You know. The leader of group says a identity label, and people raise their hand or whatever if they identify that way. Then after that they do affirmation circles. You take turns sitting in the middle of the circle and close your eyes and everyone says nice things about you. You stay for a minute and the next person steps in. After that is the "Love Feast". I don't know. It seems weird. Here is an official church document about it. Basically, there were like some rules about respect if people said no and stuff. But there was a table full of food. Alot of people were topless. The rules of the game were that you couldn't talk and you couldn't feed yourself. I think. You can read the document. I'm going to keep typing cause I am on a roll. So everyone feeds eachother and smears food all over one another bodies for a half hour and then whoever wants to strips down and jumps in the lake to clean up. I don't know what is weird anymore. Strange is okay I guess, I just don't know how I feel about the entire thing so it is hard to identify the "strange practices" vs the "real strange practices".

https://www.uua.org/re/tapestry/adults/resistance/workshop8/182436.shtml

I can't really think of anything else church related. My dad like sang in the choir and stuff. The preacher talked about love and justice or something.

Unitarian Universalist Church + Illuminati.

https://pentracks.com/2016/03/illuminati-connections-to-unitarian-universalist-church-29-mar-16/

>>12552984

Okay. Forward in time, but back to the story about my grandpa being whatever you call this shit. Last year I bring up my grandpa with my mom and his "odd behavior" she had previously reported him having. Basically, I have been playing Q, I think she is part of this cabal. I want to know what is going on. She didn't really want to talk about it. I didn't ask her about her experiences. I just probed her on whether she had ever been to a ritual. If she knew anything about ritual. I also had recently found that obituary about the Masonic Home my family went into. Anyway. I asked her if he was a pedophile. She didnt like it. I don't blame her for not wanting to finger her dad that way. She admitted to me she had identified him as a pedophile. I just don't think it was like full-blown whatever. I don't really know much America. I push her a bit more on the ritual. I am thinking she might have been a childhood experience. Anyway. It was a little confusing. But, I felt like what she said, very specifically, was "you will just have to integrate your experience". I am sure that made about as much sense then as it does now. Like wtf is that supposed to mean mom? I don't remember what happened after that. I probably asked a few questions and it was left there. Anyway. She was cured by psychotherapy of whatever "feelings" she had about her dad being a weirdo. Like I said before, it was reported to me he never ever "touched" his kids. He just did strange things. He always wanted to give me a quarter when I was kid so that I would rub his feet. I don't know, maybe that is weird. I was a kid and he had a quarter. I sure never thought of it as sexual.

>>12552988

My father. Okay. So my theory holds, that the government may have "sanctioned" this all somehow. I don't know. Maybe none of this means anything when I add it all up and someone will tell me I am stupid. Okay. So this is probably not the best evidence for anything. But whatever. My dad worked in computers. He did heuristic algorithms and spent his life working on the traveling salesman problem. I don't know much about that stuff, just enough. He did cool stuff. He worked in trucking and figured out how the trucks should most efficiently deliver the goods. My dad was pretty smart. He was a programmer/analyst, not a salesman. He always told me about his model, but his boss was like this old redneck guy that didn't really want to shift his entire operation based on the computer guys calculations. My dad said he could save people a lot of fuel if they would listen to him. He told me that he invented power steering before power steering was invented. It is interesting because I have heard or read that inventions often can happen at different times in different places. It is a matter of who patents, etc. It is documented phenomena to some degree I think. Whatever. I am just saying that maybe my dad was smart dude helping the government. He had like google maps before google maps. He spent years entering every zip code in america and like building this massive map program to run his algorithms or something. But it had all the cities. He was real proud of his file storage systems and high effeciency algorithms. He worked with punch cards and stuff and had explained to me about how he had to actually tell the computer where to physically store the data on the disk. So he was all about his file systems and stuff. HE worked for honeywell for a while. I have pictures of him with those giant computers that filled the whole room. He had a souvenier thing that was given him by honeywell for being an employee or whatever. It was a glass cube with a moon on the inside. Probably irrelevant considering I can find a picture of it online. But, he did work there and I am sure they gave it to him. I don't know much other than that about his work. He was pretty cool though, he told me he was working a job at this business, but he wasn't working in computers, but the company got a computer or something and there were no computer people, but it came with manuals. So he took home all the IBM manuals and learned computers. Bachelors in mathematics. Nothing to write home about. I know he used a website that he engaged with for a while. It was an math problem of some sort. It couldn't be solved completely, but everyone was trying to solve to a higher %. Anyway. I guess he was doing real good on the website and kept getting new solutions to this problem. I dunno. My dad watched the news, drank a little whiskey and coke, and worked hard his whole life. I was always my mother's project. My dad didn't really like "love me" or teach me to play ball or anything. I don't think he was involved with any kind of abuse towards me. I know his family was somehow park of the Elk's Lodge. Never really heard of it, just know it is a "lodge".

>>12552994

I think that is all I have for now that is like "life facts". I have way more life conspiracies, trust me, but I didn't want to wrap this up into "my conspiracy". I want to stick to my personal "evidence" and see what you all think.

Okay. So. Tell me what you think either way.

If you do think it is possible. Here is my thinking. The cabal/cult doesn't do ritual anymore or someone would have pictures. I think they dropped the ritual and "went undercover". It is the same thing as before, but without the robes and ritual?

Anyway.

Could my mother be a brainwashed cult slave that doesn't know she is psychologically manipulating me on behalf of the cabal? Or am I having high hopes?

Do you think my grandfather, the son of someone who grew up with the Masons, was a cult member himself? Do you think he was doing ritual and stuff? Could his military stuff gotten me tied up in all this mku/cult shit?

Am I being weird. My mother is an educator on behalf of this "church".The symbol of the church I was raised in, why do I know nothing about it?

Why is it "hidden" or not-important to know the history of the "sacred symbol" of the "church"?

Are people doing the lie to me?

Are they brainwashed?

Why does the official church website not mention the roots of their most important document on the church website?

The people in the church want to "bury" the relationship so people will not accuse them of paganism and stuff.

If they are so open minded about theology and stuff. Why are they so blind to this?

Are they brainwashed or being liars?

Like I don't think these are bad people. I just think they are bullshitting me on some level.

https://www.uua.org/beliefs/who-we-are/chalice

The symbol of the dhurch is a flaming chalice. I am like doing research on it and it is related to goddess worship.

https://bristolunitarians.blogspot.com/2009/07/pagan-tendencies-in-unitarianism.html

When the Unitarian chalice symbol was designed by Hans Deutsch in the 1940s, it was intended to reflect both the altar flames of ancient pagan Greece and the communion chalice of the Hussite movement, a Protestant group founded by Jan Hus, who gave communion in both kinds (bread and wine) to his congregation; previously the laity were only allowed to receive the bread.