they´re everywhere!!
notable for newfags, next
sometimes the ones that are the closest too us are the hardest to persuade.
depending on your personal situation you gotta choose to intesify or move on.
Someone told me once;
Image yourself on the Titanic, knowing that it´s going to sink, do you waste your time with the nay-sayers (believing the ship is unsinable) or do you try to get to the lifeboats and take with you who ever agrees ?
die trying, better then not trying and not dying